Hi

Yesterday and Today I've been working on a bridge that can bridge two
message bases in talisman.

In theory the message bases can be from any net type (or local) and to
test I've been bridging HPY_TST to a special WWIV network I created.

So you could bridge:

FTN <-> WWIVNET
FTN <-> QWK
QWK <-> WWIVNET

etc.

Actually I think i forgot to add the support for QWK. but it's really
just making a specific tagline style, at present LOCAL can be used in
place of QWK.

You can have as many bridges as you want, so you could also bridge
between FTN, QWK and WWIVNET. by using two bridges.

A couple of things to note, it needs two seperate message bases to work,
ie, I have HappynetWWIV and HappynetFTN and both of those have a HPY_TST.

The other thing is, it doesn't add new kludges (it strips seenbys / path,
so FTN <-> FTN will work, but if a message originates on WWIVnet and gets bridged to say FSXnet, it wont magically have FTN kludges like TZUTC,
MSGID etc.

Not sure how useful this is to others, especially with WWIV having native
FTN these days.

Andrew

PS if you're on HappyNet, sorry about all the dupes and testing ;)



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Very cool to see this Andrew.

Was anything surprising along the way to make it work?

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Very cool to see this Andrew.

Was anything surprising along the way to make it work?

No, not really. The only thing that had me stumped for a little while was the need to touch a couple of files on the wwiv side to get the wwivnet setup working.

One was email.dat it was complaining one was missing (i think it was msgs/email.dat) and the other was the subscriber list was missing and I had to create it (nSUBTYPE.net)

Otherwise it seems to work, pretty much all the bridge does is copy messages between two areas, so they appear as new messages in the new area and are scanned out by the scanner / tosser for that net type.

Andrew

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On 13 Dec 2022 at 03:58p, apam pondered and said...

Yesterday and Today I've been working on a bridge that can bridge two message bases in talisman.

In theory the message bases can be from any net type (or local) and to test I've been bridging HPY_TST to a special WWIV network I created.

Very cool... nice job Andrew.

Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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So you could bridge:

FTN <-> WWIVNET
FTN <-> QWK
QWK <-> WWIVNET

This is interesting, APAM... so 2, 3 or more bbSes could link specific message areas? That might be a neat thing... trying to follow along with what this is.



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This is interesting, APAM... so 2, 3 or more bbSes could link specific message areas? That might be a neat thing... trying to follow along
with what this is.

replace bbSes with networks and you've got the idea.

So, say for example you Avon and MeatLotion decided they wanted the
general area on fsxnet and tqwnet to be linked together, you could use
this bridge to pull out all the new fsx_gen messages and put them in
tqwnet general, and vice versa.

pretty much all it does is read new messages from message base a and post
them on message base b, and the opposite. So I suppose it could be used
to link bbs message bases, but they'd both have to be using squish.

i made it because i thought it would be cool to be able to have a way for linking FTN and WWIVnet message bases (I know mark does that with
WWIV-Ftn, this is just another way to do it, and i think mark uses some
pretty particular setup to do it.)

Talisman can't host a WWIVnet message base, so you'd need a sysop of a
wwiv bbs to host it, but talisman could bridge the messages.

Andrew


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This is interesting, APAM... so 2, 3 or more bbSes could link specific message areas? That might be a neat thing... trying to follow along with what this is.

replace bbSes with networks and you've got the idea.

So, say for example you Avon and MeatLotion decided they wanted the general area on fsxnet and tqwnet to be linked together, you could use this bridge to pull out all the new fsx_gen messages and put them in tqwnet general, and vice versa.

pretty much all it does is read new messages from message base a and post them on message base b, and the opposite. So I suppose it could be used
to link bbs message bases, but they'd both have to be using squish.

i made it because i thought it would be cool to be able to have a way for linking FTN and WWIVnet message bases (I know mark does that with WWIV-Ftn, this is just another way to do it, and i think mark uses some pretty particular setup to do it.)

Thanks for explaining, APAM - that sounds really neat; and b00m, APAM makes it happen. Super cool.



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Hey Apam! Responding to this older message, as I'm interested in playing around with bridging networks on Talisman. I have compiled Bridge, but was wondering if you could provide an example of the command between WWIV <> FTN? Appreciate any help!

e.g.
Usage: bridge [ OPTIONS ] OBJECT { COMMAND | help }
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Just FYI, I did figure out Bridge. There is an issue with a segmentation fault when running Postie afterward, but I managed to hack my way around it. I posted
my fix on gitlab. Cool stuff.



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Hey J0hnny!

Thanks for posting the issue. I see it and will see about implementing the fix in a future version. I'm still working on getting a Windows environment in place to get this to compile and once I do, I'll work on the various backlog issues that have come up.

- Larry

Just FYI, I did figure out Bridge. There is an issue with a segmentation fault when running Postie afterward, but I managed to hack my way
around it. I posted
my fix on gitlab. Cool stuff.

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