So with the weather heating up again in the Northern Hemisphere I was just putting up my passive shields and I thought I'd share.

I live in a 1930's construction home where central air was not a thing. Then and now we use a hot water boiler system and large cast iron registers for the winter months and in the summer we sweat...
I had more mature trees around the house that were the ideal situation but with that maturation came some significant risk as a 3 stories high maple on the west side that was lovely was dying out. It was shedding log sized branches, and when one just missed my neighbors and took out a telephone line I thought it was time to cut it down and start again. There won't be a tree like that out front again for over 100 years. Sooooo in the meantime...
We were new home owners and quality, insulating black out window blinds for a half dozen windows were too much. I thought about it and went to the hardware store and got some .5" thick foam insulation board, the sort for foundations but the blue board but the white stuff with the silver coating on one side. We get 4x8 sheets here in the states so 48x96 inches and with windows that are about 29" wide (for a blinds) I got 3 sheets of about 30"x48" that I then duct tapes edges for dressing and could just put in the windows when it was going to be obscenely hot and sunny to limit the amount of passive solar energy coming into the house. This worked pretty well and I can keep the house 15-20 degrees cooler than outside even when it's in the 90F here.
I often turned the silver side out but when I want to look like a grown up the white side looks like white blinds from the outside of the house and work about as well. It's just a matter of putting them in before the sun really starts on that side of the house and taking them out again in the evening. I was thinking that temp range reduction from passive could be a life and death line for the elderly or anyone who's struggling with cooling as energy prices are high.
It's not much, but I thought I'd post it here in case someone is looking for anything to try to help with the heat.
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So with the weather heating up again in the Northern
Hemisphere I was just putting up my passive shields and
I thought I'd share.

Out here in the Pacific Northwest we've been having a mild start to the summer (unlike most of North America), it's a nice break for us. I haven't upgraded to your level of shields (yet), but even the heavy curtains in my sun-facing windows have made a huge difference in hot weather. I am lucky to have a lot of trees around my house for shade (until it gets windy then I become very unlucky to have the trees) though the west side of the house does take some sun in the afternoon heat.

When I am able to have windows open on opposite ends of the house, and I keep the curtains closed before the day heats up, the cooling effect is significant. Once that hot sun is blocked out, a fan to move some air keeps the place pretty comfortable.

(though in the past few years it's gotten hot enough that I installed an air conditioner in the window, so on the really hot days the windows stay shut and the curtains closed and that beautiful cold-making machine runs full blast.)

Also, I do have aluminum foil covering one of the windows visible from the front of my house, I have made the conscious choice not to live like an adult and cover the window in a more aesthetically pleasing way. Shiny windows club!


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Re: Heating Up Again
By: n2qfd to All on Sun Jun 30 2024 10:59 am

So with the weather heating up again in the Northern Hemisphere I was just putting up my passive shields and I thought I'd share.

I live in a 1930's construction home where central air was not a thing.

Would it be feasible to get a central A/C system installed for your house? I've heard of people doing that, and I've heard it can cost between $5,000 and $10,000 (US), though I'm curious if it would be feasible with a house from the 1930s.

and went to the hardware store and got some .5" thick foam insulation board, the sort for foundations but the blue board but the white stuff with the silver coating on one side. We get 4x8 sheets here in the states so 48x96 inches and with windows that are about 29" wide (for a blinds) I

I hadn't heard about those kinds of sheets. When I was growing up, my mom used to tape aluminum foil to the house windows (the more shiny side outward), and I think that helped keep some of the heat out. Years later, I mentioned that to some of my co-workers and one of them said he hadn't heard about that and thought it would make the house look like a drug house or something.. I hadn't thought about that, but personally I'd rather have a more comfortable temperature in my house. I'd think it would be far from looking suspicious enough for the police to stop by or anything.

Nightfox

Re: Heating Up Again
By: AKAcastor to N2qfd on Sun Jun 30 2024 10:48 am

Out here in the Pacific Northwest we've been having a mild start to the summer (unlike most of North America), it's a nice break for us. I

I'm also in the pacific northwest, and I'm happy we haven't had any super hot days yet (though a few days with 90 degree temperatures, which is definitely a bit warm for me). I'm hoping we don't have any super hot heat waves like 2021 where it got up to around 118 Farhenheit (47.7 Celsius)..

Nightfox

Also, I do have aluminum foil covering one of the windows visible from
the front of my house, I have made the conscious choice not to live like an adult and cover the window in a more aesthetically pleasing way.
Shiny windows club!

You do see that quite a bit here too. I was just thinking of a place that is on the west side of Lake Cayuga (one of the finger lakes north of Ithaca) where in the summers they foil up all the easterly windows. It's like prairie some places when you're up on top of the high lands around the finder lakes. Especially where they are farming and can be pretty exposed. Stunted little trees and all for the persistent winds. I do love how varied the geography of NY is.

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Would it be feasible to get a central A/C system installed for your
house? I've heard of people doing that, and I've heard it can cost
between $5,000 and $10,000 (US), though I'm curious if it would be feasible with a house from the 1930s.

So it would be prohibitively expensive to run duct work. We see a lot of mini-split systems around here with the older homes though. That involves only a few holes for supply/return lines from a unit in the room to a small condenser outside.

I had a coworker from Oklahoma once, an engineer, who said when we were talking permits and his countrymen being up in arms at our restrictions in the North East.... Brady said to me, Remember, they've grown up in a state that's younger than your house. We haven't learned what we need to safeguard yet for our young outlook."

I understand that the issue of having a lot of homes of certain vintages has been a thing in the UK as well. Just trying to get us up to better insulation levels will save megatons of emissions as a society and real dollars and cents as homeowners.

I added 36+ inches of high R insulation bats to the attic area last year and I should have the walls insulated done with a blown or foam agent in the future. The house is much tighter that it was designed for though and that comes with other issues like moisture. We used to use the fireplace more and you could hear the house sucking for all it's might to get air in. After replacing all the windows it's just so much tighter than it ever was in the past. I have a school desk sized boiler that runs natural gas vs what must have been a coal bunker at one time. Even the sewer line leaves the house on the wrong side as I think this side of town got service later and we all must have had septic tanks!

Still, it's a good house. In the last 20 years houses on average have grown 1000 sqft and the family hasn't. Our 1930's place is 1100sq feet and for the two of us it's perfect. I'm not trying to fill up or heat and cool more than I need. I can cut my grass with a push mower on a half acre and still have a decent garden out back.

A lesson from Europe was that in America we have lots of space we take for granted. I think we need to stop doing that with our homes, and probably our cars too!

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I'm also in the pacific northwest, and I'm happy we haven't had any
super hot days yet (though a few days with 90 degree temperatures, which is definitely a bit warm for me). I'm hoping we don't have any super
hot heat waves like 2021 where it got up to around 118 Farhenheit (47.7 Celsius)..

Blarg! that's like Turkey hot... I was there in November once upon a time and the Turks were in suits with sweater vests in Istanbul. It was 70F at night... They asked us if we came from somewhere cold as my friend and I were in sneakers, light pants and t-shirts and sweating... Marty being a smart ass Canadian said, "yes, we live in houses made of ice and hunt whales!"

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On 30 Jun 2024, n2qfd said the following...

So with the weather heating up again in the Northern Hemisphere I was just putting up my passive shields and I thought I'd share.

Summer. Passive shields make a difference, it is their reflectivity rather than the insulating value that matters. There are curtains that have a reflective rating for the liner.

Remember though that your curtains if done that way will not pick up energy in winter when every little bit of gain helps. Perhaps there are summer and winter curtain setups?

You might have the fitments for roller blinds, as they were often part of the "heat armor."

I live in a 1930's construction home where central air was not a thing. Then and now we use a hot water boiler system and large cast iron registers for the winter months and in the summer we sweat...

Twenty-First century lifestyle in a 20th c house. We add so many small heat sources, tend to close things up, remove or seldom use features like "summer kitchens", often have removed the basement cisterns which were a huge cooler heat sink.... all while adding computers, lights, TVs, electric this & that, ... basically all of that is like having a small fire in the fireplace. Oh then we pave around (driveways) and favor short grass rather than surounding gardens. As we stay inside way too much.

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Some folk have been able to use chilled water delivery to those big old radiators, but often you have to build condensate trays if they will end up sweating. Others use the various split systems, the type you often seen in resturants and some hotels. Kind of ugly on the most part.

You can add conventional A/C though you will lose space for ducts. Those spaces can also include a plenum for updated electricty and for connectivity.

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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: n2qfd to Nightfox on Sun Jun 30 2024 08:18 pm

Still, it's a good house. In the last 20 years houses on average have grown 1000 sqft and the family hasn't. Our 1930's place is 1100sq feet and for the two of us it's perfect. I'm not trying to fill up or heat and cool more than I need. I can cut my grass with a push mower on a half acre and still have a decent garden out back.

A lesson from Europe was that in America we have lots of space we take for granted. I think we need to stop doing that with our homes, and probably our cars too!

Yeah, currently my wife an I live in a 2-bedroom apartment that's about 970 square feet and it's okay for us for now, though we wouldn't mind some more storage space as well as more cabinets in the kitchen. And I agree about cars in the US too. I've actually been a little frustrated when I've looked for a new car to buy, and the options for a regular car that's not too big seems to be shrinking.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: n2qfd to Nightfox on Sun Jun 30 2024 08:20 pm

is definitely a bit warm for me). I'm hoping we don't have any super hot
heat waves like 2021 where it got up to around 118 Farhenheit (47.7
Celsius)..

Blarg! that's like Turkey hot... I was there in November once upon a time and the Turks were in suits with sweater vests in Istanbul. It was 70F at night... They asked us if we came from somewhere cold as my friend and I were in sneakers, light pants and t-shirts and sweating... Marty being a smart ass Canadian said, "yes, we live in houses made of ice and hunt whales!"

:) Lately, I'll start sweating a bit if I'm doing a bit of physical activity even when it's cool (upper 60s Fahrenheit).. When the temperature starts getting to the mid-upper 70s and higher, I start to sweat fairly easily.

Nightfox

Shiny windows club!

You do see that quite a bit here too. I was just
thinking of a place that is on the west side of Lake
Cayuga (one of the finger lakes north of Ithaca) where
in the summers they foil up all the easterly windows.
It's like prairie some places when you're up on top of
the high lands around the finder lakes. Especially where
they are farming and can be pretty exposed. Stunted
little trees and all for the persistent winds. I do love
how varied the geography of NY is.

Interesting that you mention the prairie aspect. When I put foil on my window I was thinking about my Grandma's house in Saskatchewan on the Canadian prairie. I remember the front windows being covered in foil throughout the summers. Now I wonder if that's more common amongst prairie folk or if it's a coincidence and everyone finds the sun hot and also has a roll of aluminum foil in a drawer.


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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: n2qfd to Nightfox on Sun Jun 30 2024 08:20 pm

Blarg! that's like Turkey hot... I was there in November once upon a time and the Turks were in suits with sweater vests in Istanbul. It was 70F at night... They asked us if we came from somewhere cold as my friend and I were in sneakers, light pants and t-shirts and sweating... Marty being a smart ass Canadian said, "yes, we live in houses made of ice and hunt whales!"

:) Lately, I'll start sweating a bit if I'm doing a bit of physical activity even when it's cool (upper 60s Fahrenheit).. When the temperature starts getting to the mid-upper 70s and higher, I start to sweat fairly easily.

You might not like it here in Florida... lately (in northern FL) we've
had 95F and 70-80% humidity. Walking out to check the mail produces
sweat. ;-)



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Interesting that you mention the prairie aspect. When I put foil on my window I was thinking about my Grandma's house in Saskatchewan on the Canadian prairie. I remember the front windows being covered in foil throughout the summers. Now I wonder if that's more common amongst prairie folk or if it's a coincidence and everyone finds the sun hot and also has a roll of aluminum foil in a drawer.

Funny,

Here we're in the Endless Mountains, and I had some friends go out west and if there was any real issue it was the never ending sky.
We grow up here in a landscape of valleys, south of the finger lakes. The friend I'm thinking of remarked this feeling like there was no where to hide, being exposed all the time. He said the sky was too big and it was suffocating.
Here you've always got a hill in view. They say "Ithaca is Gorges" on the bumper stickers... They also say it's 10 square miles surrounded by reality!

I'm sure it's the later, but maybe there is something to life in the open we mountain williams need to learn about...

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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Jul 01 2024 10:12 pm

You might not like it here in Florida... lately (in northern FL) we've had 95F and 70-80% humidity. Walking out to check the mail produces sweat. ;-)

Yeah, I visited Florida years ago and I didn't like the heat or humidity..

Nightfox

On 02 Jul 2024, Nightfox said the following...

Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Jul 01 2024 10:12 pm

You might not like it here in Florida... lately (in northern FL) we'v 95F and 70-80% humidity. Walking out to check the mail produces swea ;-)

Yeah, I visited Florida years ago and I didn't like the heat or
humidity..

I went in January for the first time in over twenty years. It was really cold - which, in my mind, is a good time to go.

Previously, I had visited Florida in mid-summer and it was just as I got out the Navy. Having spent most of my military time at and around the equator, the heat and humidity In florida seemed like child's play.

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Here we're in the Endless Mountains, and I had some
friends go out west and if there was any real issue it
was the never ending sky.

I grew up in Saskatchewan, on the license plates they put the motto "Land of Living Skies". Growing up there of course it felt normal. Even the idea that it was very flat was lost on me - I mean look there's a hill just over that way! :)

We grow up here in a landscape of valleys, south of the
finger lakes. The friend I'm thinking of remarked this
feeling like there was no where to hide, being exposed
all the time. He said the sky was too big and it was
suffocating.

Since I moved away from the prarie, I have noticed when I return to visit that my perception has changed. Now I see THE SKY IS SO GODDAMN BIG! haha

Here you've always got a hill in view. They say "Ithaca
is Gorges" on the bumper stickers... They also say it's
10 square miles surrounded by reality!

That's a fantastic slogan.

I'm sure it's the later, but maybe there is something
to life in the open we mountain williams need to learn about...

There certainly are subtle (and not so subtle) differences in life in different areas, aren't there.


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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Jul 01 2024 10:12 pm

You might not like it here in Florida... lately (in northern FL) we've had 95F and 70-80% humidity. Walking out to check the mail produces sweat. ;-)

Yeah, I visited Florida years ago and I didn't like the heat or
humidity..

You get used to it though. Now when I visit a dry place (Vegas for
example), my sinuses and skin don't like it much.



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You might not like it here in Florida... lately (in northern FL) we've had 95F and 70-80% humidity. Walking out to check the mail produces sweat. ;-)

No I'm not a Florida guy,
I mean you guys have some great stuff, I love the Kennedy Space Center. I was a fan of Santibel Island, super place to hide away while on vacation and feel like you were in 1998..
Funny you mention the dry parts of the world too. My spouse complains about the dry too for the same reasons. I love it. I loved live in the Adirondacks during the winders when it would be -39/40F and the air couldn't hold any moisture. Summer might still hit 90 F and so keeping paint on a wooden house was a chore... That's a bit range to flex through. The kitchen cabinets would not stay closed in the summers for the wood swelling and would not say closed in the winter for the wood shrinking! I was a COOP weather observer for the NWS and we fed our data to the Forecasting Office in Albany. They were using us mostly to tune out wind turbines, turns out they were something of an issue for Doppler radar once upon a time. But I'd go out and read the recording thermometer, my rain gauge, snow on the ground and new snow winters and even take snow cores to melt for the liquid equivalent to help predict run off in the springs. We didn't have ticks, too dry, too cold.
We hardly had earthworms, then again we didn't have much earth, it was mostly sand. We did have black flies and mosquitoes, it wasn't perfect.

But I'll take the cold.

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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Jul 02 2024 01:56 pm

Yeah, I visited Florida years ago and I didn't like the heat or
humidity..

You get used to it though. Now when I visit a dry place (Vegas for example), my sinuses and skin don't like it much.

I've been in drier places than where I currently live. In 2008, I moved (for a job) to Bend, OR, which is in a high desert area that doesn't get much rain. After a little while, my hands started to get dry and I got some cracking skin on my knuckles & such, and I tended to feel better when I went back to visit NW Oregon. I've since moved back from there though.

Nightfox

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You might not like it here in Florida... lately (in northern FL) we've
had 95F and 70-80% humidity. Walking out to check the mail produces sweat. ;-)

No I'm not a Florida guy,
I mean you guys have some great stuff, I love the Kennedy Space
Center. I was a fan of Santibel Island, super place to hide away while
on vacation and feel like you were in 1998..
Funny you mention the dry parts of the world too. My spouse
complains about the dry too for the same reasons. I love it. I loved
live in the Adirondacks during the winders when it would be -39/40F and the air couldn't hold any moisture. Summer might still hit 90 F and so keeping paint on a wooden house was a chore... That's a bit range to
flex through. The kitchen cabinets would not stay closed in the summers for the wood swelling and would not say closed in the winter for the
wood shrinking! I was a COOP weather observer for the NWS and we fed
our data to the Forecasting Office in Albany. They were using us mostly
to tune out wind turbines, turns out they were something of an issue
for Doppler radar once upon a time. But I'd go out and read the
recording thermometer, my rain gauge, snow on the ground and new snow winters and even take snow cores to melt for the liquid equivalent to
help predict run off in the springs. We didn't have ticks, too dry, too cold. We hardly had earthworms, then again we didn't have much earth,
it was mostly sand. We did have black flies and mosquitoes, it wasn't perfect.

But I'll take the cold.

Yep, I'm familiar with that weather scenario too. All places have their pluses and minuses, I guess. I grew up in northern Vermont so I know
what cold is. Great stuff when you're a kid, sledding/skiing/skating,
even making money in the winters shoveling people's driveways. As you
become an adult and have to drive/work in it, it becomes less fun in
some ways. As I've gotten older I find I do not miss the cold one
little bit. I do enjoy visiting up there at all times of year, but will
not live in a cold place again.



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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Jul 02 2024 01:56 pm

Yeah, I visited Florida years ago and I didn't like the heat or
humidity..

You get used to it though. Now when I visit a dry place (Vegas for example), my sinuses and skin don't like it much.

I've been in drier places than where I currently live. In 2008, I
moved (for a job) to Bend, OR, which is in a high desert area that
doesn't get much rain. After a little while, my hands started to get
dry and I got some cracking skin on my knuckles & such, and I tended to feel better when I went back to visit NW Oregon. I've since moved back from there though.

Yep, that's exactly what I mean. I have some family in Idaho, in that
high desert environment, and it's not a place I like. Mostly brown,
dry, dusty, and constantly windy. It actually amazes me that people
choose to live there. :-)



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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Jul 02 2024 05:59 pm

Yep, that's exactly what I mean. I have some family in Idaho, in that high desert environment, and it's not a place I like. Mostly brown, dry, dusty, and constantly windy. It actually amazes me that people choose to live there. :-)

When I was in Bend (OR), I also thought it was mostly brown (and grey), though I don't think it was constantly windy. I actually thought it was a good town, though I like where I am now. They say Bend is good if you're into outdoor activities, due to the lack of rain and scenery, and being near several mountains is good if you like skiing (Mt. Bachelor and Three Sisters are in the area).

Where I am now, the area is more colorful due to the rain, and it's also right between the mountain (Mt. Hood) and the coast, so I feel like there are plenty of options here for places to go that aren't too far away.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Jul 02 2024 05:59 pm

Yep, that's exactly what I mean. I have some family in Idaho, in that high desert environment, and it's not a place I like. Mostly brown, dry, dusty, and constantly windy. It actually amazes me that people choose to live there. :-)

When I was in Bend (OR), I also thought it was mostly brown (and grey), though I don't think it was constantly windy. I actually thought it
was a good town, though I like where I am now. They say Bend is good
if you're into outdoor activities, due to the lack of rain and scenery, and being near several mountains is good if you like skiing (Mt.
Bachelor and Three Sisters are in the area).

Yes, I have heard that about Bend. Very outdoorsey types of people love
it there I guess, as you said.

Where I am now, the area is more colorful due to the rain, and it's
also right between the mountain (Mt. Hood) and the coast, so I feel
like there are plenty of options here for places to go that aren't too
far away.

I have visited the Portland area a couple of times, and enjoyed it a
lot. In fact, I once rode a Navy ship there via the Columbia and
Willamette Rivers, and spent a wonderful few days there as a young (and single) Sailor. I've rarely seen a place where the girls were so..... patriotic and willing to... thank us for the work we did. ;-)



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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Jul 02 2024 07:48 pm

I have visited the Portland area a couple of times, and enjoyed it a lot. In fact, I once rode a Navy ship there via the Columbia and Willamette Rivers, and spent a wonderful few days there as a young (and single) Sailor. I've rarely seen a place where the girls were so..... patriotic and willing to... thank us for the work we did. ;-)

;)

Years ago, I had heard Portland, OR had the highest number of adult entertainment venues per capita of any city in the US.. I'm not sure if that's still true though.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Jul 02 2024 07:48 pm

I have visited the Portland area a couple of times, and enjoyed it a lot. In fact, I once rode a Navy ship there via the Columbia and Willamette Rivers, and spent a wonderful few days there as a young (and single) Sailor. I've rarely seen a place where the girls were so..... patriotic and willing to... thank us for the work we did. ;-)

;)

Years ago, I had heard Portland, OR had the highest number of adult entertainment venues per capita of any city in the US.. I'm not sure
if that's still true though.

Could be, not sure. Just to clarify, my comment above was not about
*those* kind of girls... LOL. The local girls don't get to see Sailors often, and came out to the ship in droves, for tours and then out on the
town for the night. Forgot to mention before, this was something called
the "Portland Rose Festival", which I guess is a pretty big deal in
those parts, at least back then. It was quite common for a couple of
Navy ships to come to that event every year. Really something every
crew hoped for (their ship to be selected to visit) each year. It was a
LONG way up the rivers from the sea to get there, took like 14 hours or something and quite stressful regarding safe navigation. One of the
best port visits I ever had, worldwide.



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Yep, I'm familiar with that weather scenario too. All places have their pluses and minuses, I guess. I grew up in northern Vermont so I know what cold is. Great stuff when you're a kid, sledding/skiing/skating, even making money in the winters shoveling people's driveways. As you

We lived in Montpelier for a while. Used to go up to St J often. Vermont was an experience. Wetter than the Adirondacks oddly enough. The Green Mountains seemed less sandy than when I lived in Saranac Lake.
I understand though. An hour commute to Ithaca is significantly less fun when the weather is bad here too!

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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jul 03 2024 07:04 pm

Years ago, I had heard Portland, OR had the highest number of adult
entertainment venues per capita of any city in the US.. I'm not sure if
that's still true though.

Could be, not sure. Just to clarify, my comment above was not about *those* kind of girls... LOL. The local girls don't get to see Sailors often, and came out to the ship in droves, for tours and then out on the town for the night.

I know. :) My brain just remembered that when you mentioned them.

Forgot to mention before, this was something called
the "Portland Rose Festival", which I guess is a pretty big deal in those parts, at least back then. It was quite common for a couple of Navy ships

It still happens, every year. I usually don't go though, as I'd rather avoid the crowds.

(their ship to be selected to visit) each year. It was a LONG way up the rivers from the sea to get there, took like 14 hours or something and quite stressful regarding safe navigation. One of the best port visits I ever had, worldwide.

That's cool. There are also riverboat cruises along the Willammette River in Portland, as well as along the Columbia (into the Hood River area, etc.), and I'd like to go on one of those some time.. They often include a meal on the boat. I've never been on one of those.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jul 03 2024 07:04 pm

Forgot to mention before, this was something called
the "Portland Rose Festival", which I guess is a pretty big deal in those parts, at least back then. It was quite common for a couple of Navy ships

It still happens, every year. I usually don't go though, as I'd rather avoid the crowds.

Yes, I remember it being quite busy/crowded, but great fun.

(their ship to be selected to visit) each year. It was a LONG way up the rivers from the sea to get there, took like 14 hours or something and quite stressful regarding safe navigation. One of the best port visits I ever had, worldwide.

That's cool. There are also riverboat cruises along the Willammette
River in Portland, as well as along the Columbia (into the Hood River area, etc.), and I'd like to go on one of those some time.. They often include a meal on the boat. I've never been on one of those.

You should do it! Maybe on the next birthday/anniversary/holiday that
fits. I bet it would be a great time.



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Yep, I'm familiar with that weather scenario too. All places have their pluses and minuses, I guess. I grew up in northern Vermont so I know
what cold is. Great stuff when you're a kid, sledding/skiing/skating, even making money in the winters shoveling people's driveways. As you

We lived in Montpelier for a while. Used to go up to St J often.
Vermont was an experience. Wetter than the Adirondacks oddly enough.
The Green Mountains seemed less sandy than when I lived in Saranac
Lake.
I understand though. An hour commute to Ithaca is significantly less
fun when the weather is bad here too!

Wow, it sure can be a small world. Who'da'thunk that a couple of BBSers
would have both lived in such a remote/small place as that! Very cool!



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Re: Re: Heating Up Again
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Wed Jul 03 2024 09:48 pm

That's cool. There are also riverboat cruises along the Willammette
River in Portland, as well as along the Columbia (into the Hood River
area, etc.), and I'd like to go on one of those some time.. They often
include a meal on the boat. I've never been on one of those.

You should do it! Maybe on the next birthday/anniversary/holiday that fits. I bet it would be a great time.

Yeah, I was thinking of going with my wife for an event, or just because.

Nightfox

Wow, it sure can be a small world. Who'da'thunk that a couple of BBSers would have both lived in such a remote/small place as that! Very cool!

You have no idea! I've had like 3 users find my BBS (The Queen City - Elmira, NY) randomly who are either from here, have family here, or know someone here in town. They had no idea signing up that it was in Elmira as the moniker isn't used much.

There's this strange sort of everything leads back to Elmira phenomenon.

Hope the inbound weather this season doesn't hit you too hard. We've been watching the Atlantic weather up here and fingers crossed eh.

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