• Taylor Swift first Re-recording released

    From Bob Roberts@HOVAL to All on Fri Feb 12 23:49:57 2021
    Regardless of your affinity for TayTay, a bit of interesting activity took place today. Taylor has vowed to re-record all 6 of her original albums, the masters of which are owned by her hated nemisis (with links to Kanye) Scooter Braun.

    After failing to buy out the catalog 2 seperate times, she is now recording and releasing the re-recordings. So when you search Spotify for one of her earlier albums, two matches will come up, the original and "Taylor's Version." She keeps all the revenue from the latter.

    The first release is Love Story, and the reviews are positive. Taylor didn't change the arrangement at all, the only difference is the improved fidelity of a modern mix, and the maturity of her voice coming thru in the vocals.

    Even if your not a fan of my girl Taylor, comparing the two releases is interesting... and it will be fun to see if her strategy pays off.

    Bob Roberts

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  • From Ogg@EOTLBBS to Bob Roberts on Mon Feb 15 20:09:00 2021
    Hello bob.roberts!

    ** On Saturday 13.02.21 - 02:49, bob.roberts wrote to All:

    Regardless of your affinity for TayTay, a bit of interesting
    activity took place today. Taylor has vowed to re-record all
    6 of her original albums, the masters of which are owned by
    her hated nemisis (with links to Kanye) Scooter Braun.

    I heard about that debacle a few months ago. What a shameful
    ordeal for her.

    After failing to buy out the catalog 2 seperate times, she is
    now recording and releasing the re-recordings. So when you
    search Spotify for one of her earlier albums, two matches will
    come up, the original and "Taylor's Version." She keeps all
    the revenue from the latter.

    "Taylor's Version" tag ..very cool. :)

    The first release is Love Story, and the reviews are positive.
    Taylor didn't change the arrangement at all, the only
    difference is the improved fidelity of a modern mix, and the
    maturity of her voice coming thru in the vocals.

    I listened to 50% of each one. Yes... very similar.

    Not a fan per se. The voice doesn't really impress me. She does
    sound like a more childlike, boastful and louder Suzanne Vega
    though:

    https://open.spotify.com/track/5yMXAaSvxo12QkYU75Ixv0

    Do you know if Swift retained the same musicians from the first
    recordings?

    Even if your not a fan of my girl Taylor, comparing the two
    releases is interesting... and it will be fun to see if her
    strategy pays off.

    She will do fine. Since present fans will be busy streaming and
    listening to both versions for camparison, she will be earning
    royalties from both. Some younger new fans may prefer the
    younger girlie voice, and old fans may prefer the slightly more
    mature sound.

    The only other thing that might come back to haunt her is if the
    original catalog goes through a re-mastering process and the new
    owner tries to undercut Taylor's Versions.

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  • From Bob Roberts@HOVAL to Ogg on Tue Feb 16 08:42:16 2021
    Re: Re: Taylor Swift first Re-recording released
    By: Ogg to Bob Roberts on Mon Feb 15 2021 08:09 pm

    The first release is Love Story, and the reviews are positive.
    Taylor didn't change the arrangement at all, the only
    difference is the improved fidelity of a modern mix, and the
    maturity of her voice coming thru in the vocals.

    I listened to 50% of each one. Yes... very similar.

    Not a fan per se. The voice doesn't really impress me. She does
    sound like a more childlike, boastful and louder Suzanne Vega
    though:

    It's pretty clear that in the re-release she's matching her vocal style from the original recording, but her maturity still shines thru. Not everyone likes her early Pop-Country style.

    You might enjoy the two acoustic folk albums she released over the past few months. She and Aaron Dessner (from The National) worked on them over Quarintine. The albums are "folklore" and "evermore". Nothing like her pop releases and good for a cold snowy day.

    Do you know if Swift retained the same musicians from the first recordings?

    My understanding is that for the re-recordings she is playing with her Touring band.

    She will do fine. Since present fans will be busy streaming and
    listening to both versions for camparison, she will be earning
    royalties from both. Some younger new fans may prefer the
    younger girlie voice, and old fans may prefer the slightly more
    mature sound.

    She'll do fine yes. But I think it entire situation highlights the many ways that Record Labels have designed in order to screw artists out of their music. The good news is that there are so many more ways to self-release these days and actually get play and attention. Obviously she's wealthy and popular so has an advantage in all respects. Plus her highlighting the situation with her fans gets her even more attention and play.

    The only other thing that might come back to haunt her is if the
    original catalog goes through a re-mastering process and the new
    owner tries to undercut Taylor's Versions.

    Thats an interesting idea, I wonder if the licenses owned by the third parties allow them to remaster and re-release. My guess is no, because it seems like they would have already done that. If it is allowed, it seems a Mutually Assured Destruction scenario where both parties keep releasing new versions to cloud the catalog on streaming services.

    I'd actually be very interested in a Boxset of the re-recordings once they are complete. In a nice binder with artwork and probably a high price tag. :-)

    Bob Roberts

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  • From Ogg@EOTLBBS to Bob Roberts on Sat Feb 20 20:24:00 2021
    Hello bob.roberts!
    ** On Tuesday 16.02.21 - 11:42, bob.roberts wrote to Ogg:
    It's pretty clear that in the re-release she's matching her
    vocal style from the original recording, but her maturity
    still shines thru. Not everyone likes her early Pop-Country
    style.
    Yeah.. sounds too whiney. I don't like the real-time story-
    telling of her lyrics either.
    You might enjoy the two acoustic folk albums she released over
    the past few months. She and Aaron Dessner (from The
    National) worked on them over Quarintine. The albums are
    "folklore" and "evermore". Nothing like her pop releases and
    good for a cold snowy day.
    That sounds pretty good. Will consider an audition.
    She will do fine. Since present fans will be busy streaming and
    listening to both versions for camparison,...
    She'll do fine yes. But I think it entire situation
    highlights the many ways that Record Labels have designed in
    order to screw artists out of their music. The good news is
    that there are so many more ways to self-release these days
    and actually get play and attention. Obviously she's wealthy
    and popular so has an advantage in all respects. Plus her
    highlighting the situation with her fans gets her even more
    attention and play.
    I went down a little rabbit hole of paino-related videos that
    very quickly led me to Rick Beato's stuff. One of the first
    one's I watched was "Almost Famous - Why Record Labels Suck-
    6oWsgTAXc8U.mp4". It was an example how a big label can ruin
    everything.
    If you like Taylor S, you may like the lead singer in "I Nine -
    Seven Days Of Lonely" There is a similarity.
    Another vid entitled "How KATY PERRY 'Was Inspired By' I Mean
    COPIED This Song" intrigued me. He's quite a versatile fellow,
    operating mixing boards, plays guitar, piano, etc.. I'm going
    to check that channel for sure.
    I'd actually be very interested in a Boxset of the re-
    recordings once they are complete. In a nice binder with
    artwork and probably a high price tag. :-)
    Someone made a joke about those kinds of collections, that it
    was peculiar that a fan of a particular band or artist who
    already has all the material in various separate original CDs or
    LPs from over the years, would buy the "complete" set re-issues
    decades later.
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  • From Bob Roberts@HOVAL to Ogg on Sun Feb 21 12:45:54 2021
    Re: Re: Taylor Swift first Re-recording released
    By: Ogg to Bob Roberts on Sat Feb 20 2021 08:24 pm

    I went down a little rabbit hole of paino-related videos that
    very quickly led me to Rick Beato's stuff. One of the first
    one's I watched was "Almost Famous - Why Record Labels Suck- 6oWsgTAXc8U.mp4". It was an example how a big label can ruin
    everything.

    Cool, I'll check it out.

    Bob Roberts

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  • From ghazestor to Bob Roberts on Sun Nov 20 04:13:54 2022

    I'd actually be very interested in a Boxset of the re-recordings once they are complete. In a nice binder with artwork and probably a high price tag. :-)
  • From ghazestor to Bob Roberts on Mon Dec 26 06:46:41 2022

    I went down a little rabbit hole of paino-related videos that
    very quickly led me to Rick Beato's stuff. One of the first
    one's https://get-mobdro.com/home/