Everything works fine now. So I added a cron job for backing up my Mystic instance twice a day, and synchronized these backups on my local server. It's better to be safe than sorry. ;)

However, if I compare the number of messages today with those from 6, 7, or 8 years ago (my first BBS), there are significant differences. Besides, Usenet doesn't exist here anymore either?

It would be nice if I could add more diverse and active networks.

Since I don't want to run the BBS just for myself, participating in a network as a point is probably out of the question.

Are there still options for that today?

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2025 06:54:23 +0200
"Memo" (21:3/207) <Memo@f207.n3.z21.fidonet> wrote:

However, if I compare the number of messages today with those from 6,
7, or 8 years ago (my first BBS), there are significant differences.
Besides, Usenet doesn't exist here anymore either?

Of course it does. Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it
doesn't exist (except for God, that doesn't exist) ;)

If you want to login to my BBS and then let me know, I can give you
access to my usenet server.

I also have a way for Synchronet sysops to allow their users to
authenticate using their BBS account. If you want to offer usenet
services to your users, maybe we can figure a way to get it working for
Mystic.

Or you could just come over to Synchronet :)
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Re: Backups and more ...
By: Memo to All on Sat Oct 11 2025 06:54 am

Howdy,

Besides, Usenet doesn't exist here anymore either?

It does - a few nodes provide usenet - I'm sure they'll popup up and let you know.

It would be nice if I could add more diverse and active networks.

There arent many - fsxnet is probably one of the bigger ones though.

Since I don't want to run the BBS just for myself, participating in a network as a point is probably out of the question.

Why?


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Good morning Deon :)
Maybe I misunderstood this network topology, but I thought till today a point is just one (!) endpoint (user) only.

If my BBS as point enables posting to other user here too - this wood be great.

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Good morning, and
thanks for your reply.> "Of course it do
es."I guess I expressed myself in a
confusing way.Of course,
Usenet still exists - but not currently as a par
t of the sfgxNetuniverse.H
owever - I don't want to switch to
Sychronet. I'm very happy with M
ystic :)
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Re: Re: Backups and more ...
By: Memo to deon on Sat Oct 11 2025 08:38 am

Howdy,

Maybe I misunderstood this network topology, but I thought till today a point is just one (!) endpoint (user) only.

If my BBS as point enables posting to other user here too - this wood be great.

The only difference between a point and a normal node, is that a point is not listed in the nodelist for the network.

Points, otherwise, can interact the same was as other nodes can.



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If my BBS as point enables posting to other user here too - this wood
be great.

It does, but unless you're running multiple BBSes or really don't want to bother the network administrator, there's not much difference to setting
up an actual node vs being a point.

Either way, you have to get your feed from someone, and it might as well
be a hub vs another bbs. That is, someone's going to have to set your
feed up.

Most networks now days are tiny, fidonet if you can stomach it is the
biggest, though it's not /that/ big. Everything else I'm sure the network
hubs would love to have a new node, and wouldn't mind setting you up.

Andrew


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The only difference between a point and a normal node, is that a point
is not listed in the nodelist for the network.

Points, otherwise, can interact the same was as other nodes can.

Thanks for the explanation. Then I have misunderstood this for years :/

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Thanks for this detailed explanation.
I thought that other users of my BBS could read this feed, but I didn't know that replying would work too.

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Re: Re: Backups and more ...
By: deon to Memo on Sat Oct 11 2025 18:35:33

The only difference between a point and a normal node, is that a point is not listed in the nodelist for the network.

Node owners cannot run for fidonet positions and I believe have no voting rights. Not that most nodes do anyway but still.
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Thanks for the explanation. Then I have misunderstood this for years

It may have been the policy of the networks you were on rather than a
technical limitation. I used to be on networks that didn't allow points
at all.

I think these days points are most useful if you have an actual node for
your bbs, then if you want to experiment with other bbses, or perhaps
have a ftn reading setup, you can do that with points off of your bbs,
you couldn't do that with your main bbs being a point (ie, points off
points)

I have used a point on fsxnet for a while before coming back because I
was hesitent to bother Paul to set me up a new node if I didn't stay very
long. Though, I'm not worried about bothering deon :) deon can set up
nodes easy with clrghouz :D

Andrew


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It may have been the policy of the networks you were on rather than a technical limitation.

That may have been the case.

Since I gave up my last BBS (also Mystic) many years ago for personal
reasons, it took me a while to get back into it.

Additionally, there were also some changes.

All in all, I'm quite pleased that after less than a week, my BBS is running (almost) exactly as I imagined.

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Hi Memo,
In a message to All you wrote:

It would be nice if I could add more diverse and active networks.

This is the most active network. You could add fightonet, but you'll
only see automated "moderator" posts with rules no one can enforce, and
3 old men talking about who is more sick then the other.

Are there still options for that today?

Not really.

... There is no limit to how bad things can get.


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This is the most active network.

This sounds a bit disappointing, but it's good to know that fsxNet is still active.

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Re: Re: Backups and more ...
By: apam to Memo on Sat Oct 11 2025 10:35 am

long. Though, I'm not worried about bothering deon :) deon can set up
nodes easy with clrghouz :D

:)

Dont mind being bothered at all - keen to help folks get online in these nets, and I'm always looking for ways to make it as much self-service as possible :)


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This is the most active network. You could add fightonet, but you'll
only see automated "moderator" posts with rules no one can enforce, and
3 old men talking about who is more sick then the other.

hahhhah that's micronet. I love to read it everyday and see what new disease sean has this week.

... Asphault = Proctologist's malpractice insurance

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BY: Memo (21:3/207)

|11M|09> |10Usenet still exists - but not currently as a par|07
|11M|09> |10t of the sfgxNetuniverse.H|07
|11M|09> |10owever - I don't want to switch to |07
Usenet wasnt big after my isp stopped providing a usenet feed.


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Hi Exodus,
On <Sun, 11 Oct 25>, you wrote me:

hahhhah that's micronet. I love to read it everyday and see what new disease sean has this week.

He's never been so happy. The more sick he gets the wider his
grin.

Just don't apologize to him, or you will get kicked out of his network.

Shawn

... No one can feel as helpless as the owner of a sick goldfish.


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It would be nice if I could add more diverse and active networks.

There arent many - fsxnet is probably one of the bigger ones though.

... Like man others, I've added ALL the FTNs over the years; PiNet, RetroNet, ArakNet, MetroNet - and on and on...

To be completely honest, most all msgs go thru fsxNet - and I'm a bit partial to zer0net as I helped with some changes last year... those changes mean that its now an open FTN - anyone can join. (Previously, it only accepted highly customized scene bbSes.

If it were me, today, I'd fill out applications for;
fsxNet
zer0net

... and be done with it. :P



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If it were me, today, I'd fill out applications for;
fsxNet
zer0net

Now I'm tempted to sign up for zer0net...

My BBS has only fsxNet and Fidonet, and I probably wouldn't notice if Fidonet stopped having messages. But it's kinda neat to be in a net that's continuously existed for 40 years, even if the net has limited value.

Realistically, since my BBS is _mostly_ just for me, the question becomes more of, "what message bases would I actually end up reading?", and it's oftentimes rare that I get beyond this message area.

And I figure that most people, when signing up for nets, wind up doing it during the, "My BBS is going to have everything!" stage that most people seem to get when getting started.

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If it were me, today, I'd fill out applications for;
fsxNet
zer0net

Now I'm tempted to sign up for zer0net...

Dude - you should... zer0 changed last year and allows non-scene [demoscene, ansi, warez; legacy scene] bbSes - I can make sure you're accepted, and its been getting substantially more traffic since the changes!

Get yer app sent!!

Realistically, since my BBS is _mostly_ just for me, the question
becomes more of, "what message bases would I actually end up reading?", and it's oftentimes rare that I get beyond this message area.

And I figure that most people, when signing up for nets, wind up doing it during the, "My BBS is going to have everything!" stage that most people seem to get when getting started.

I think you'd like the zer0 crowd... a mix between fsxNet and ArakNet; and ANSi is a part of zer0... we need Adept in our FTN-lives!

:P



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On 13 Oct 2025, Adept said the following...

Now I'm tempted to sign up for zer0net...

My BBS has only fsxNet and Fidonet, and I probably wouldn't notice if Fidonet stopped having messages. But it's kinda neat to be in a net
that's continuously existed for 40 years, even if the net has limited value.

Realistically, since my BBS is _mostly_ just for me, the question
becomes more of, "what message bases would I actually end up reading?", and it's oftentimes rare that I get beyond this message area.

And I figure that most people, when signing up for nets, wind up doing it during the, "My BBS is going to have everything!" stage that most people seem to get when getting started.

This is something I would apply too as well even though I don't have any regulars anymore. I do want to wait until I have my BBS back on standard X86/64 hardware first.

Then it will be worth the sign up.

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On Mon, 13 Oct 2025 19:01:28 -0700
"paulie420" (21:2/150) <paulie420@f150.n2.z21.fidonet> wrote:

If it were me, today, I'd fill out applications for;
fsxNet
zer0net

Now I'm tempted to sign up for zer0net...

Dude - you should... zer0 changed last year and allows non-scene
[demoscene, ansi, warez; legacy scene] bbSes - I can make sure you're accepted, and its been getting substantially more traffic since the
changes!

Get yer app sent!!

Realistically, since my BBS is _mostly_ just for me, the question becomes more of, "what message bases would I actually end up
reading?", and it's oftentimes rare that I get beyond this
message area.

And I figure that most people, when signing up for nets, wind up
doing it during the, "My BBS is going to have everything!" stage
that most people seem to get when getting started.

I think you'd like the zer0 crowd... a mix between fsxNet and
ArakNet; and ANSi is a part of zer0... we need Adept in our FTN-lives!

I applied in 2000 and was basically ignored. Screw that.
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