The media is currently fixated on "FBI Depty Director Dan Bongino got mad at Pam Bondi, yelled at her, and has taken a day off work because he's so angry because the DOJ refuses to release Epstein's client list."

I can see through all of this; "sources say" aren't sources. So that's simply not true until an actual name gets dropped (as a "source.")

I sense that the media is trying to create the illusion that the Trump administration is hiding "an Epstein client list" that probably doesn't even
exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child prostitution pimp who kept a list of Johns in a notebook? (I never heard that version of the story.)

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On Sat 12-Jul-2025 1:50p, Aaron Thomas@1:342/200.0 wrote:

I sense that the media is trying to create the illusion that the Trump administration is hiding "an Epstein client list" that probably doesn't even
exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child

Given the fact that the administration didn't start saying the list never existed until Elon Musk made the statement that Trump's name was on list. I think it IS highly probable that it isn't just an illusion.

Knowing that most criminal enterprises do in fact keep maticulous records (escpecially if it can be use for leverage against rich / powerful people), I would find it more difficult to believe the list doesn't exist.

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exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child

Given the fact that the administration didn't start saying the list never existed until Elon Musk made the statement that Trump's name was on
list. I think it IS highly probable that it isn't just an illusion.

I understand your point and it is suspicious how Trump is discouraging curiosity about Epstein.

But I don't understand what the list is about. What kind of clients did Epstein have? Was he running an underage prostitution ring? So all the names on the list are of people who are almost certainly pedophiles?

I need to understand the significance of the "list."

Knowing that most criminal enterprises do in fact keep maticulous records (escpecially if it can be use for leverage against rich / powerful people), I would find it more difficult to believe the list doesn't
exist.

What are you basing that knowledge on? It's not common knowledge. Which criminal organization had a list powerful people that the authorities were able to use to take them down?

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Yes, Epstein was accused of providing underage girls for the purpose of sex to rich clientelle that he flew out to his island.

The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to "Epstein Island".

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Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

I can see through all of this;

I think that most people can today, and that's a good thing.

If the media is fixated on something, look for what they are trying to distract away from - like our first budget surplus in how many decades?

"sources say" aren't sources. So that's
simply not true until an actual name gets dropped (as a "source.")

They never are sources.

Did you see the Pierre Poilievre in the infamous "apple" video?

Liberal reporter: A lot of people would say....
Pierre: Which people would say that?
Liberal: Mumble, mumble.. A great many Canadians...
Pierre: Like who?
Liberal: Well, I don't know who.
Pierre: You're the one who asked the question, so you must know somebody.

Bottom line: "a great many Canadians" = "Leftie nut jobs in our media company"

I sense that the media is trying to create the illusion that the Trump administration is hiding "an Epstein client list" that probably doesn't even exist. Even if it did, a "client list" for what? Was he a child prostitution pimp who kept a list of Johns in a notebook? (I never
heard that version of the story.)

The problem is that there are too many holes here.

If there is no list, what is Maxwell in prison for? No list = no clients = no trafficing of minors.
What did Epstein commit suicide for? There was no proof he did anything wrong.

Then there's the video released showing nothing happening outside of Epstein's cell - but with an obvious minute of video missing.

No one in their right minds would believe any of this.

IHMO, this was 2 things:
1. It was a message to the people on the list. "Work with us, or we will release everything."
2. To keep the Epstein thing in people's minds and not let the media memory hole it.

I think the people involved would hope that this would all just fade away and I think the Trump admin is making it clear that it won't.

Leverage. It's all about leverage.


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Brent Hendricks -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2025-07-12 18:19:

Given the fact that the administration didn't start saying the list
never existed until Elon Musk made the statement that Trump's name was
on list. I think it IS highly probable that it isn't just an illusion.

That bimbo, that seems to be some kind of press secretary, assured us, on live TV, that she had the list *on* *her* *desk* . And then she hadn't. Just like the TACO stupid one...


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On 13 Jul 2025, Björn Felten said the following...

us, on live TV, that she had the list *on* *her* *desk* . And then she

She said she had the File on her desk.

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On Sun 13-Jul-2025 9:51a, Ron L.@1:120/616.0 said to Aaron Thomas:

Aaron Thomas wrote to All <=-

I can see through all of this;

away from - like our first budget surplus in how many decades?

Wow... So you are beating off to your Trump doll, because of a ONE MONTH budget surplus?

Someone really needs to help you out with your maths.

May $316 Billion defficit
June $27 Billion Surplus.

So just for MAY by itself, that still leaves a defficit of $289 dollars.

Year to date we are 1.36 TRILLION in the red

Yuge win there!

The problem is that there are too many holes here.

Yeah, like the most glaring one, Epstein didn't kill himself, Missing footage from the security cameras that just happened to be around the time he supposedly killed himself. The files being sealed all around, Pam Bondi saying she had the files on her desk, and was looking at the names.

Then Musk, after falling out with Trump makes a public statement that Trump's name is on the list, then suddently "There never were any files..."

Yes, a lot of holes there, and people want answers!

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Yes, Epstein was accused of providing underage girls for the purpose
of sex to rich clientelle that he flew out to his island.

The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to "Epstein Island".

I appreciate that explanation, but I'm still wondering: how was the list assembled and why?

I don't keep a list of people who visit my home, but if I did, what can I prove with it? I'm a convicted drunk driver, so does that mean that the list of people who came to my house are suspected coconspirators of my crime?

The media gives us too few details of the significance of the list.

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On 13 Jul 2025, Brent Hendricks said the following...

Wow... So you are beating off to your Trump doll, because of a ONE
MONTH budget surplus?

Hasn't happened since 2017, his first administration. Removing negative spending needs to be celebrated, in anyway...

He's he's working his way to balancing the budget and reducing the deficit, wasteful spending AND paying down the debt.

The US pays ~ 1 Trillion in interest charges on the debit. If it did help, masturbation while looking at a Trump doll... Everyone should do it even if it is to help future Americans manage better.

BTW, I'm sure a photo, hopefully with Melania in it... Or a video of one of his rally speeches will work as well.

We are TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS in debt and pay a Trillion in interest on that debt...

START Tugging to help the future generations... Stop donging it to Hillary or Kamala's likeness and do something useful for the country.

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If the media is fixated on something, look for what they are trying to distract away from - like our first budget surplus in how many decades?

Was there a surplus with the BBB?

Did you see the Pierre Poilievre in the infamous "apple" video?

No but he sounds like a smart guy to me. It should be illegal (in both of our countries) for the media to say such ridiculous things as "sources say."

The problem is that there are too many holes here.

If there is no list, what is Maxwell in prison for? No list = no
clients = no trafficing of minors.
What did Epstein commit suicide for? There was no proof he did anything wrong.

I'm under the impression that Trump either visited Epstein Island or the Democrats made a fake "Epstein list," and that Trump is trying to hide it for the greater good (which is fine with me.)

Then there's the video released showing nothing happening outside of Epstein's cell - but with an obvious minute of video missing.

I use a Reolink NVR for home surveillance, and the NVR has to be rebooted once a week, so my camera footage is down for 1-2 minutes each week for the reboot, but I'm confident that jails use a more sophisticated system.

I think the people involved would hope that this would all just fade
away and I think the Trump admin is making it clear that it won't.

Are you sure? It sounds like Trump wants to memory hole it. I don't mind either way, because it doesn't hurt me as much as a Harris presidency would.

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On 13 Jul 2025, Aaron Thomas said the following...

Was there a surplus with the BBB?

There was a massive surplus in Tariffs and other things that relate to the border... they aren't paying for hotel rooms or flying people into the country during the night.

AND Trump doesn't take a wage... and 100s of thousands are about to get fired from an over bloated bureaucracy.

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There was a massive surplus in Tariffs and other things that relate to
the border... they aren't paying for hotel rooms or flying people into
the country during the night.

AND Trump doesn't take a wage... and 100s of thousands are about to get fired from an over bloated bureaucracy.

Sounds good to me.

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Re: Re: "Sources said"
By: Brent Hendricks to Ron L. on Sun Jul 13 2025 11:19 am

May $316 Billion defficit
June $27 Billion Surplus.

So just for MAY by itself, that still leaves a defficit of $289 dollars.

To be made up by American consumers paying tariffs on consumer goods, passed on from the importers. Some victory.
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Re: Re: "Sources said"
By: Aaron Thomas to Brent Hendricks on Sun Jul 13 2025 10:38 am

The purported list contains the names of people whome he flew out to
"Epstein Island".

I appreciate that explanation, but I'm still wondering: how was the list assembled and why?

How does that matter to this discussion?
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