• Re: The "Big announcement

    From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Jan 23 07:42:48 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Mike Powell <=-

    You're not alone. I asked a lot of people about AI and nobody knows
    what its all about. Not even the techiest of people.

    Do these people use Alexa or Siri? Do they use autocorrect on their cell phone? Do they never call a support line for anything?

    They use AI probably several times a day without even thinking about it.

    Heck, I used AI back in 1979 when I ran the ELIZA program on the TRS-80.

    AI research has been going on for literally decades and advancedments come out of it all the time that impact most people.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Thu Jan 23 09:29:00 2025
    While Biden was president I was confident that he was going to make this exact
    same type of announcement, but now I'm hearing it from my Orange God and I'm feeling a little backstabbed.

    Think of any politician as a god and you will be quickly disappointed. ;)


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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Jan 24 08:43:57 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I talk a lot of trash about it, but for the longest time I couldn't
    figure out how to make an AJAX login, and Google's AI assistant (or whatever they call it) gave me solid instructions yesterday and I was really impressed. It showed me 2 ways of doing it (XMLHttpRequest and AJAX.)

    The AI "assistant" that we can use at work was garbage and got in the way more than it helped. But it all depends.

    AI's are like "idiot savants". I wouldn't ask a medical AI about retirement financial planning, for example. But an AI that's been trained on what "good" Javascript code is would probably do really good with Javascript questions.

    But now we are in to AI bias because they have to be told what "good Javascript" is.

    I tried following peoples' articles on it and they were all crap
    (mostly) compared to Google's AI advice. I don't know if they realize
    that this accelerates productivity instead of slowing it down like
    their web frameworks do.

    They probably do. Most of us developers never reinvent the wheel. We usually take a wheel that someone else has developed, and has shown that it works well, and change it to meet our needs.

    Google AI simply repackaged that work.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to GREGORY DEYSS on Fri Jan 24 09:42:00 2025
    Even more investment will be coming into the U.S. from the Saudi Crown Prince says kingdom intends to invest Six Hundred Billion in the U.S. during a call w
    Trump.
    https://tinyurl.com/nt9pxnmj

    Is this to build companies and facilities that the Saudis will own, or a
    loan to the US government?

    I suppose the former is ok, but not sure how I feel about any foreign government investing money into ours as they will want something in return.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Fri Jan 24 08:52:43 2025
    I tried following peoples' articles on it and they were all crap (mostly) compared to Google's AI advice. I don't know if they realize that this accelerates productivity instead of slowing it down like their web frameworks do.

    They probably do. Most of us developers never reinvent the wheel. We usually take a wheel that someone else has developed, and has shown that it works well, and change it to meet our needs.

    I'm surprised that Google allows their AI assistant to help people with web development needs. They've put a ton of work into sabotaging productivity (Wordpress, pagespeed insights, search console, AMP pages, PWAs, APKs, Angular, etc.)

    They get people playing around with all that crap, just to waste their time under the guise of "improving the user experience" and "making things easier."

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sat Jan 25 10:31:00 2025
    I'm surprised that Google allows their AI assistant to help people with web development needs. They've put a ton of work into sabotaging productivity (Wordpress, pagespeed insights, search console, AMP pages, PWAs, APKs, Angular
    etc.)

    I am picking up on some vibes that a lot of folks are starting to have
    issues with AI because it does just that... tries to "help" them when they don't really want that kind of help. They feel they are being overloaded
    or overstimulated by all the extra AI-generated input/results.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Powell on Sat Jan 25 10:42:03 2025
    I'm surprised that Google allows their AI assistant to help people with development needs. They've put a ton of work into sabotaging productivit (Wordpress, pagespeed insights, search console, AMP pages, PWAs, APKs, Angular
    etc.)

    I am picking up on some vibes that a lot of folks are starting to have issues with AI because it does just that... tries to "help" them when
    they don't really want that kind of help. They feel they are being overloaded or overstimulated by all the extra AI-generated input/results.

    With Google's AI or some other AI implementation?

    I get thrilled when I get the opportunity to ask my 2 nerdy IT professional friends about stuff, but they are literally starting to get replaced by AI!

    Google used to just give you the "most relevant" search result, but now it gives (mostly) solid advice. I think that's great. (Not great how they collude with the WEF to kill us though.)

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  • From Ron L.@1:120/616 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Jan 25 13:45:31 2025
    Aaron Thomas wrote to Dr. What <=-

    I'm surprised that Google allows their AI assistant to help people with web development needs. They've put a ton of work into sabotaging productivity (Wordpress, pagespeed insights, search console, AMP pages, PWAs, APKs, Angular, etc.)

    They get people playing around with all that crap, just to waste their time under the guise of "improving the user experience" and "making
    things easier."

    So management still hasn't given up on CASE tools (feed in requirements to the system and out comes code).

    Remember the the AI assistent is examining your code - which is fed back into the AI to help train the AI.

    So think less of "the AI is helping you" and more "the AI is learning from you". And, for the AI "assistents" that I've used, you get to pay for the privilege of teaching the AI how to write code.

    Remember Google Rule: If the product is "free", then YOU are the product that they are selling.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Ron L. on Sat Jan 25 20:45:05 2025
    Remember the the AI assistent is examining your code - which is fed back into the AI to help train the AI.

    So think less of "the AI is helping you" and more "the AI is learning
    from you". And, for the AI "assistents" that I've used, you get to pay for the privilege of teaching the AI how to write code.

    Remember Google Rule: If the product is "free", then YOU are the product that they are selling.

    That sounds really bad! But it's true. They are learning all about us. Google learns about all our interests, wants, and needs. They're taking inventory on us bigtime. And Facebook is the department that tries to link a photo to everything that Google already knows. (And bing is just the contingency plan for people who don't realize that the 2 companies are working collectively.)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to AARON THOMAS on Sun Jan 26 10:28:00 2025
    So think less of "the AI is helping you" and more "the AI is learning from you". And, for the AI "assistents" that I've used, you get to pay for the privilege of teaching the AI how to write code.

    That sounds really bad! But it's true. They are learning all about us. Google learns about all our interests, wants, and needs. They're taking inventory on us bigtime. And Facebook is the department that tries to link a photo to everything that Google already knows. (And bing is just the contingency plan for people who don't realize that the 2 companies are working collectively.)

    I recently posted an article here, or in CONSPIRCY, about a company getting into trouble (Linkdin) for using users' personal info to train AI.
    Companies are desperate not to lose their seats on the AI train and are
    willing to do a lot of things in order to stay ahead of the competition.


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/202 to Mike Powell on Sun Jan 26 10:43:10 2025
    That sounds really bad! But it's true. They are learning all about us. G learns about all our interests, wants, and needs. They're taking invento us bigtime. And Facebook is the department that tries to link a photo to everything that Google already knows. (And bing is just the contingency for people who don't realize that the 2 companies are working collective

    I recently posted an article here, or in CONSPIRCY, about a company getting into trouble (Linkdin) for using users' personal info to train
    AI. Companies are desperate not to lose their seats on the AI train and are willing to do a lot of things in order to stay ahead of the competition.

    That's interesting. And LinkedIn gathers quite a bit of personal information too, compared to other social networks. Especially career information.

    So we've got Google collecting our habits, Facebook collecting our faces, and LinkedIn collecting our skills. (The 3 amigos.)

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