• Re: Cleaning Registrations Up

    From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Thu Aug 29 20:24:48 2024
    In the USA, if a voter MOVES they are REQUIRED to re-register because th are likely no longer in the same district, and especially if they move out-of-state. If they do not re-register, it is not the government's fa but their own fault for not following directions.

    That is all well and good.

    However what is happening is folks who have not moved or changed much of anything being removed.

    Tell us their names.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 29 20:26:10 2024
    I don't know. Is this enough to appease the leftist gods? They might want you to take these false claims to the next level.

    I have no gods, left or right.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Thu Aug 29 20:33:34 2024
    However what is happening is folks who have not moved or changed much of
    anything being removed.

    Tell us their names.

    You want me to tell you their names!?

    I'll tell you one. Daniel Moss. His place on the voter roll was challenged as ineligible by a group called free the vote.

    His name and thousands of others.

    Do a little reaserch, would ya?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKFALtjiS_8&t=27s

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 30 06:03:30 2024
    However what is happening is folks who have not moved or changed much o >> anything being removed.

    Tell us their names.

    You want me to tell you their names!?

    I'll tell you one. Daniel Moss. His place on the voter roll was
    challenged as ineligible by a group called free the vote.

    His name and thousands of others.

    Do a little reaserch, would ya?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKFALtjiS_8&t=27s

    There's a good reason why you can only tell me 1 name, and that's because this ridiculous CNN "report" only tells 1 name. You're falling for BS. BS is slippery when it's fresh, but by the end of the day it dries up and no longer poses a slip hazard.

    There are times when videos show evidence of things, but this video shows no evidence of anything. If you were a court judge, there would be major protests outside your courtroom on a daily basis. They'd call you "Judge BS."

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Fri Aug 30 08:27:32 2024
    There's a good reason why you can only tell me 1 name,

    Why should I give you any names?

    and that's because this ridiculous CNN "report" only tells 1 name. You're falling for BS. BS is slippery when it's fresh, but by the end of the day it dries up and no longer poses a slip hazard.

    There never was a slip hazard. It was a well presented report, full of good information about election denialism in the USA today.

    There are times when videos show evidence of things, but this video shows no evidence of anything. If you were a court judge, there would be major protests outside your courtroom on a daily basis. They'd call you "Judge BS."

    No one is giving evidence, this is not court and there is no judge.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Fri Aug 30 10:15:00 2024
    Trump would/will do that regardless of project 2025.

    That was my logic. Yours was "if Trump does a mass deporation, it is a sign he is following Project 2025."

    Trump would/will implement much of project 2025 as well.

    Some of it does line up with other things either Trump or the GOP have suggested in the past. Other parts seem to come out of far left field...
    or maybe that should be far RIGHT field... and I would be shocked if anyone with any fiscal sense would see them as good ideas.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 30 09:55:30 2024
    On 29 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...


    That is a lie. California and New York both have successful econimies.

    I think it's safe to stop there.


    No they don.... Both are failing... Both have people moving out of the state... Recently Elon moved all his California holding out of California to Texas... Chevron Oil is also moving from California. All complaining about regulations and high taxes... and poop on the street.... Ohhhh and Silvester Stallone... among many others are moving out as well. There are more people leaving California and moving in... The wealth is leaving.

    The same is happening in New York. Major financial firms are bugging out and moving to Texas, as did Elon, where there is no state income tax.


    I think it's safe to stop there.


    Don't tell me what to do...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Fri Aug 30 11:18:34 2024
    That is a lie. California and New York both have successful econimies.

    I think it's safe to stop there.

    No they don.... Both are failing... Both have people moving out of the state..

    People move for various reasons. That doesn't mean the state has failed.

    Recently Elon moved all his California holding out of California to Texas...

    That is likely for "regulation reasons". Regulations are a good thing when they are about best practices. If companies would keep up best practises without regulations than regulations would not be needed.

    People or companies often let best practises slip for profitability reasons.

    I wouldn't by a car that was built in Texas for that reason.

    Chevron Oil is also moving from California. All complaining about regulations and high taxes...

    Regulations and taxes are not reason to complain.

    and poop on the street.... Ohhhh and Silvester Stallone... among many others are moving out as well.

    Tell Sylvester to take his poop with him.

    There are more people leaving California and moving in... The wealth is leaving.

    People come and go for many reasons.

    The same is happening in New York. Major financial firms are bugging out and moving to Texas, as did Elon, where there is no state income tax.

    True patriots!

    I think it's safe to stop there.

    Don't tell me what to do...

    I'm not telling you what to do. I said "I think it is safe to stop there". I said nothing about what you should or should not do.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Fri Aug 30 21:48:34 2024
    Alan Ianson -> IB Joe skrev 2024-08-30 20:18:
    Recently Elon moved all his California holding out of California to
    Texas...

    That is likely for "regulation reasons". Regulations are a good thing
    when they are about best practices. If companies would keep up best practises without regulations than regulations would not be needed.

    But in this case, it was all about space. Tesla had used every inch of the property in Fremont, CA, so they bought a new, much more spacious one in Austin, TX.

    Still keeping his extremely productive Fremont factory of course, so, no moving all anything involved. Just the HQ was relocated.

    I wish those MAGA idiots would sometime learn about factchecking.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Bj÷rn Felten on Sat Aug 31 02:52:34 2024
    I wish those MAGA idiots would sometime learn about factchecking.

    MAGA doesn't care about facts or truth.

    They just want signatures!

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 31 07:57:12 2024
    On 30 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...


    People move for various reasons. That doesn't mean the state has failed.


    Put down the crack pipe...
    Headline...

    Foot Locker Flees New York's Crushing Taxes, Relocates Headquarters to Business-Friendly Florida

    This headline was yesterday just after I sent you a message yesterday.

    Several companies are leaving/left California and New York citing not just any reason... as you might imply.... But because of the Tax and Regulatory burden.

    I forget get what city it is... one of these 3 in Texas... Austin, Dalis or Huston... filed this year to be a financial HUB for the south. Seems that a lot of major banks and trading firms are moving to Texas... Not just for any reason... They are citing Taxes and high Regulations.

    You sit in an other country on the other side of the continent and you tell Aaron who actually lives in New York that doesn't know what he's talking about.

    BTW, McDonalds is thinking of leaving Chicago... an other liberal Sh!t Hole... citing High Taxes, Regulations and Crime. When these companies leave they take the taxes they once paid, in this case Illinois, and go to a more favorable place... Like Texas and Florida where there is no state income tax.

    BTW, California was/is the 5th largest economy in the world. They once had tax revenue surpluses... now they have deficits in the 100s of billions.

    Sometimes you just say the stupidest stuff... And you don't support your claims and you try to tell the people who are living in the failed state to ignore what they see and hear.


    Chevron Oil is also moving from California. All complaining about regulations and high taxes...

    Regulations and taxes are not reason to complain.


    They said they are leaving for those reasons...

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 31 07:20:18 2024
    Foot Locker Flees New York's Crushing Taxes, Relocates Headquarters to Business-Friendly Florida

    I wish foot locker every success whether in New York, Florida or anywhere they choose.

    Several companies are leaving/left California and New York citing not just any reason... as you might imply.... But because of the Tax and Regulatory burden.
    Banning books and deregulation are not solutions.

    I forget get what city it is... one of these 3 in Texas... Austin, Dalis or Huston... filed this year to be a financial HUB for the south. Seems that a lot of major banks and trading firms are moving to Texas... Not just for any reason... They are citing Taxes and high Regulations.

    If I was running a business the bottom line would be a key point in my decision making and location.

    You sit in an other country on the other side of the continent and you tell Aaron who actually lives in New York that doesn't know what he's talking about.

    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he is talking about. I told him New York was a successful state, because that is what it is.

    BTW, McDonalds is thinking of leaving Chicago... an other liberal Sh!t Hole... citing High Taxes, Regulations and Crime.

    McDonalds is already a low quality outfit. I wouldn't go there at all if they didn't have regulations.

    When these companies leave they take the taxes they once paid, in this case Illinois, and go to a more favorable place... Like Texas and Florida where there is no state income tax.

    Sure, it's a free country. Live/work whever you like.

    BTW, California was/is the 5th largest economy in the world. They once had tax revenue surpluses... now they have deficits in the 100s of billions.

    Things are tough all over.

    Sometimes you just say the stupidest stuff... And you don't support your claim and you try to tell the people who are living in the failed state to ignore what they see and hear.

    I never told anyone to ignore anything.

    Chevron Oil is also moving from California. All complaining about
    regulations and high taxes...

    Well I wish them a happy tax free..

    Regulations and taxes are not reason to complain.

    They said they are leaving for those reasons...

    They are realities that I don't feel a need to complain about, and understand what they are for, and what they do.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 31 09:15:28 2024
    On 31 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Several companies are leaving/left California and New York citing not ju any reason... as you might imply.... But because of the Tax and Regulato burden.
    Banning books and deregulation are not solutions.


    WTF does that have to do with what I said...

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 31 09:25:26 2024
    On 31 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    If I was running a business the bottom line would be a key point in my decision making and location.


    And it's why they move... The bottom line... it's better to do business anywhere other than Demicrat Sh!t Holes...


    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he is talking about. I told him New York was a successful state, because that is what it is.


    You did... Aaron lives in New York and sees the failing state first hand and you tell him it's not a failing state... but he lives there... and you don't.


    McDonalds is already a low quality outfit. I wouldn't go there at all if they didn't have regulations.


    Who cares the quality... The largest fast food restaurant in the world is moving it's HQ from Chicago and going to a more favorable state and with that they'll take with them... employees and tax revenue.

    WTF does your argument have to do with anything. New York and California are hemorrhaging their Tax Base... Silvester Stallone announced that he is moving to Florida citing Taxes, crime and woke stuff...

    I know people move for many reasons... but my god... FOCUS!!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 31 08:39:34 2024
    Several companies are leaving/left California and New York citing not ju >> > any reason... as you might imply.... But because of the Tax and Regulato >> > burden.
    Banning books and deregulation are not solutions.

    WTF does that have to do with what I said...

    Regulations are not burdensome and neither are books!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 31 08:47:02 2024
    And it's why they move... The bottom line... it's better to do business anywhere other than Demicrat Sh!t Holes...

    Sure, live/work where you please.

    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he is talking about. I told
    him New York was a successful state, because that is what it is.

    You did... Aaron lives in New York and sees the failing state first hand and you tell him it's not a failing state... but he lives there... and you don't.

    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he talking about.

    Who cares the quality... The largest fast food restaurant in the world is moving it's HQ from Chicago and going to a more favorable state and with that they'll take with them... employees and tax revenue.

    I don't see your issue. If McD's wants to move they can do that.

    WTF does your argument have to do with anything. New York and California are hemorrhaging their Tax Base...

    Sure, people and business's move. It's a choice.

    Silvester Stallone announced that he is moving to Florida citing Taxes,
    crime and woke stuff...

    Sylvester has his choice too. It's all good.

    I know people move for many reasons... but my god... FOCUS!!

    I'm focused Joe, just like you told me.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 31 15:02:24 2024
    On 31 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Regulations are not burdensome and neither are books!


    Regulations are extremely burdensome.... costly and can cause excessive delays...

    The Biden and Harris wanted to build charging stations for electric cars... spent BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars and built 4... Because the regulations required DEI, among other things... and that's all they got with the money they spent.

    Trump reduces regulations to speedup the process of Making America Great Again.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sat Aug 31 15:58:08 2024
    Regulations are not burdensome and neither are books!

    Regulations are extremely burdensome....

    Regulations are neseccary. In most cases they spell out best practises.

    costly and can cause excessive delays...

    Regulations cost nothing and cause no delays.

    Following regulations may add costs and/or delays but they are there for a reason.

    The Biden and Harris wanted to build charging stations for electric cars... spent BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars and built 4... Because the regulations required DEI, among other things... and that's all they got with the money the spent.

    What regulation requires DEI?

    Trump reduces regulations to speedup the process of Making America Great Again.

    Trump has succeeded in making some Americans hate again.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 31 19:22:28 2024
    You sit in an other country on the other side of the continent and you t Aaron who actually lives in New York that doesn't know what he's talking about.

    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he is talking about. I told him New York was a successful state, because that is what it is.

    That's like me telling you that British Columbia is a terrible place where syringes litter the streets, nobody recycles, and everybody is high all the time. That might be how the media describes it, but since I've never lived there, I won't parrot what they say about it, and since we're all BBS buddies, I would take your word for it when you tell me stuff about it.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sat Aug 31 19:25:30 2024
    You did... Aaron lives in New York and sees the failing state first hand you tell him it's not a failing state... but he lives there... and you d

    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he talking about.

    You did, but you said it in a nice way.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 31 19:53:56 2024
    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he is talking about. I told
    him New York was a successful state, because that is what it is.

    That's like me telling you that British Columbia is a terrible place where syringes litter the streets, nobody recycles, and everybody is high all the time.

    There are places like that, an area called the downtown eastside resembles your description. Exteme poverty and drugs galore, I've seen it myself.

    That area covers 10 square blocks and does not represent British Columbia.

    Gangs in BC are a bigger problem, not the gangs you would imagine.

    That might be how the media describes it, but since I've never lived
    there, I won't parrot what they say about it, and since we're all BBS buddies, I would take your word for it when you tell me stuff about it.

    If you have questions about BC I'll answer if I can and at least as I see it.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sat Aug 31 19:56:22 2024
    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he talking about.

    You did, but you said it in a nice way.

    Nope, I never did. I'm sure Aaron knows New York very well. I just said that New York was a successful state. I'm sure New York has it's issues as well as California, BC and many places but it is not a failure.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 1 00:13:58 2024
    I never told Aaron that he didn't know what he is talking about. I told >> him New York was a successful state, because that is what it is.

    That's like me telling you that British Columbia is a terrible place whe syringes litter the streets, nobody recycles, and everybody is high all time.

    There are places like that, an area called the downtown eastside
    resembles your description. Exteme poverty and drugs galore, I've seen
    it myself.

    That area covers 10 square blocks and does not represent British
    Columbia.

    I have to insist that the downtown east side of Vancouver is "highly successful." I've never been there, but I've been to a lot of websites.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 1 00:40:02 2024
    Nope, I never did. I'm sure Aaron knows New York very well. I just said that New York was a successful state. I'm sure New York has it's issues
    as well as California, BC and many places but it is not a failure.

    Successful is a vague word. Successful recycling program? Yes. Successful snow plow service? Yes. Successful economy? No.

    We used to have Kodak, Endicott-Johnson, IBM, Remmington Arms, MCI, to name a few. They have all moved to other states. Not for better beaches, not for better weed, but for economic reasons. And the better companies, like IBM, took their employees with them when they left.

    I moved away for about 15 years, and when I came back 90% of the people I knew were gone. Most of them moved to Florida. They didn't move there to be closer to Disney World, they moved there for economic reasons. Florida is home to thousands of New York transplants.

    New York is "successful" at being famous for the Statue of Liberty which is located on an island near the New York City coast. But I would enjoy hearing someone tell me how New York has a successful economy, because that would blow my mind. As of 2023, New York State has a debt of $55.9 billion dollars.

    New York, California, and Hawaii (all leftie controlled states) have the highest state debt out of all of the 50 states. Successful at being in debt? Yes.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Sep 1 00:16:22 2024
    That area covers 10 square blocks and does not represent British
    Columbia.

    I have to insist that the downtown east side of Vancouver is "highly successful." I've never been there, but I've been to a lot of websites.

    It is in many ways, aside from poverty and drugs.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Sep 1 01:24:26 2024
    Successful is a vague word. Successful recycling program? Yes. Successful snow plow service? Yes. Successful economy? No.

    There is nothing vague about the word successful.

    New York State has a debt of $55.9 billion dollars.

    Most people also carry debt.

    That doesn't strike me as a lot for a state with a GDP around 2 trillion. Or am I mistaken about that?

    New York, California, and Hawaii (all leftie controlled states) have the highest state debt out of all of the 50 states. Successful at being in debt? Yes.

    Are these debts out of control?

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Sun Sep 1 11:20:13 2024
    Hello Björn,

    [..]

    I wish those MAGA idiots would sometime learn about factchecking.

    Do you think that is even possible?

    Or is it a case of wishful thinking?

    For Life,
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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 1 14:23:58 2024
    Alan Ianson -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2024-09-01 10:24:
    New York State has a debt of $55.9 billion dollars.

    Most people also carry debt.

    That doesn't strike me as a lot for a state with a GDP around 2
    trillion. Or am I mistaken about that?

    You must excuse Aaron. Like his Orange Jesus, "a trillion, nobody has ever (code for "I have never") heard about a trillion," he probably doesn't realize what a trillion is.

    For instance, what do the $1.9T tax credits given to the corporations and billionaires by the MAGA administration actually mean to the (yearly average as reported by the IRS) 85M US taxpayers?

    It means not $1,900/85 but $1,900,000/85 on average for every US taxpayer: $22,353:-. 42.5M paid even more.

    And all this for reviving the long-debunked trickle-down economy theory from the Reagan era. At least Reagan only lowered corporate taxes by 12% over two years; Trump lowered them by 14% in just a single year.

    Talk about a reverse Robin Hood economy. Steal from the poor and give to the rich.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 1 08:35:22 2024
    New York State has a debt of $55.9 billion dollars.

    Most people also carry debt.

    That doesn't strike me as a lot for a state with a GDP around 2
    trillion. Or am I mistaken about that?

    It's better than Hawaii's debt to GDP ratio by comparison, but how much better would it be if Democrats didn't push all the major brands out of the state?

    Since Kathy Hochul's rogue regime took over, now businesses are being sued for hundreds of millions of dollars just for breaking bank policies.

    Are these debts out of control?

    It is out of control. Not just in New York, but in every Democrat state.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Sun Sep 1 08:41:54 2024
    For instance, what do the $1.9T tax credits given to the
    corporations and billionaires by the MAGA administration actually mean
    to the (yearly average as reported by the IRS) 85M US taxpayers?

    We like having businesses and we like having jobs. Democrats like converting shopping malls into welfare offices.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Sep 1 18:55:24 2024
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-09-01 16:41:
    We like having businesses and we like having jobs.

    We? We, who? We, the brainwashed MAGA cult members? That I can believe. But the 40M living under the poverty level would rather pay the ultra-rich than be able to spend the money on their local shops and servicemen? Hardly.

    Jobs? 3M lost their jobs during #45. The only president in modern history who left office with fewer jobs. Yeah, it didn't work out well, did it?

    How much do you pay in taxes, BTW?

    Democrats like converting shopping malls into welfare offices.

    Holy Smoke. Are you for real?

    Oh, you forgot about all the satanic orgies where they eat babies and drink their blood. Maybe in the malls, then?


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Sep 1 10:23:00 2024
    That doesn't strike me as a lot for a state with a GDP around 2
    trillion. Or am I mistaken about that?

    It's better than Hawaii's debt to GDP ratio by comparison, but how much better would it be if Democrats didn't push all the major brands out of the state?

    I don't think democrats are pushing people out. Some may choose to go elsewhere. That's fine.

    Since Kathy Hochul's rogue regime took over, now businesses are being sued for hundreds of millions of dollars just for breaking bank policies.

    I couldn't find any info about this.

    Are these debts out of control?

    It is out of control. Not just in New York, but in every Democrat state.

    I'll agree that New York has a debt and most every state does.

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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 1 15:59:50 2024
    On 31 Aug 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Regulations are neseccary. In most cases they spell out best practises.


    Over regulation is bad and stifles growth.


    Regulations cost nothing and cause no delays.


    Regulations cost tones... Large corporations love them because smaller companies can't afford them... Latest was DEI... how F#$king stupid is that... U have to hire a 1 legged black hermaphrodite with pronouns to make sure you're represented.

    Thank God companies are catching on.


    Following regulations may add costs and/or delays but they are there for
    a reason.


    Regulations are the main reason... it takes 15 to 20 years to build a road sometime because they are worried about a frog or a snail.

    I have a buddy who builds homes and he says that about 1/3 of the price of building a new home is based on regulations....

    Do you have a clue what you're talking about??


    What regulation requires DEI?


    For Democrats its having to hire weird people, a lot of the times unfit or unqualified for the job... Trump redefined it to Deport Every Illegal...


    Trump has succeeded in making some Americans hate again.


    Nope... It's the left that hates... Go to a Trump rally... they dance and sing patriotic songs.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to IB Joe on Sun Sep 1 15:31:44 2024
    Regulations are neseccary. In most cases they spell out best practises.

    Over regulation is bad and stifles growth.

    Over regulation is bad. Old regulations that don't make sense anymore should be removed or updated.

    Regulations cost nothing and cause no delays.

    Regulations cost tones... Large corporations love them because smaller companies can't afford them...

    The regulations don't cost anything. Doing things right might add costs. Doing things wrong will also add costs.

    Latest was DEI... how F#$king stupid is that...

    Diversity, equity, and inclusion is not a bad thing.

    U have to hire a 1 legged black hermaphrodite with pronouns to make sure you're represented.

    That is not DEI.

    Following regulations may add costs and/or delays but they are there for
    a reason.

    Regulations are the main reason... it takes 15 to 20 years to build a road sometime because they are worried about a frog or a snail.

    I have never seen any road take that long.

    I have a buddy who builds homes and he says that about 1/3 of the price of building a new home is based on regulations....

    Do you have a clue what you're talking about??

    Do you want to deregulate home builders? Do you know what you are talking about?

    What regulation requires DEI?

    For Democrats its having to hire weird people, a lot of the times unfit or unqualified for the job... Trump redefined it to Deport Every Illegal...

    That is not DEI.

    Trump has succeeded in making some Americans hate again.

    Nope... It's the left that hates... Go to a Trump rally... they dance and sing patriotic songs.

    They love Trump, but hate America.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Sun Sep 1 17:53:42 2024
    We like having businesses and we like having jobs.

    We? We, who? We, the brainwashed MAGA cult members? That I can
    believe. But the 40M living under the poverty level would rather pay the ultra-rich than be able to spend the money on their local shops and servicemen? Hardly.

    Go ahead and try to speak for millions of people who live in a country that you don't live in. I'm beginning to realize that's typical leftie behavior.

    There's no magic wand that solves everybody's problems, but there is a magic wand that alleviated the problem of businesses not being able to afford to stay afloat due to high taxes, and Trump waved that wand for us.

    Jobs? 3M lost their jobs during #45. The only president in modern history who left office with fewer jobs. Yeah, it didn't work out well, did it?

    What is your source of that information? The pandemic caused historic unemployment. That's a fact. And there's no other logic that pins the loss of jobs on Trump policy.

    How much do you pay in taxes, BTW?

    I don't own a business, so I don't pay corporate tax. I pay property tax, income tax, and sales tax just like everybody else. Property tax is based on the value of my home, sales tax in NY is 8%, income tax is about 25% of my gross income.

    Democrats like converting shopping malls into welfare offices.

    Holy Smoke. Are you for real?

    I can't speak for all the welfare offices throughout the entire state, but it happened at the former site of the Oakdale Mall in Johnson City, New York. There's still some retail space there, but a large portion of the building is now occupied by the county department of social services. And it's not a replacement for the old DSS, it's in addition to the existing one!

    Oh, you forgot about all the satanic orgies where they eat babies and drink their blood. Maybe in the malls, then?

    I don't know about satanic orgies, but there was an issue with Democrats and babies recently at this year's DNC convention in Chicago, Illinois. They just can't keep their hands off kids for some sick reason.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 1 17:58:34 2024
    It's better than Hawaii's debt to GDP ratio by comparison, but how much better would it be if Democrats didn't push all the major brands out of state?

    I don't think democrats are pushing people out. Some may choose to go elsewhere. That's fine.

    They're not making them walk the plank like pirates, but they're pushing them out with high taxes that are less severe in other states such as North Carolina and Texas.

    Since Kathy Hochul's rogue regime took over, now businesses are being su for hundreds of millions of dollars just for breaking bank policies.

    I couldn't find any info about this.

    I'm referring to Trump's "civil fraud trial."

    https://apnews.com/article/trump-fraud-letitia-james-new-york-engoron-38bc3a7f2 ccb22555c026e9bf70fd5bb

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Sun Sep 1 18:47:44 2024
    Since Kathy Hochul's rogue regime took over, now businesses are being su >> > for hundreds of millions of dollars just for breaking bank policies.

    I couldn't find any info about this.

    I'm referring to Trump's "civil fraud trial."

    I'm aware of Trumps civil fraud trial and conviction. He'll be sentenced in a few weeks.

    It wasn't about bank policy, Trump's actions were against state law.

    What has that got to do with Kathy Hochul?

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Sun Sep 1 21:04:40 2024
    I'm aware of Trumps civil fraud trial and conviction. He'll be sentenced in a few weeks.

    It wasn't about bank policy, Trump's actions were against state law.

    What has that got to do with Kathy Hochul?

    I thought that the NY Attorney General was appointed by the governor, but I was wrong about that. (I just don't remember seeing "Attorney General" on the ballot.)

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Mon Sep 2 09:49:00 2024
    Banning books and deregulation are not solutions.

    WTF does that have to do with what I said...

    It is a deflection.

    Delection? Banning books is all the rage today.

    He wasn't talking about banning books. If you want to start a separate
    thread about that...

    Just FYI, wanting the books in a childrens' school library to be age appropriate is not "banning books." Banning them means they cannot be
    legally found anywhere and I am not aware of anyone doing that. Please
    post some links to enlighten us.


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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Mon Sep 2 09:08:00 2024
    Regulations cost nothing and cause no delays.

    Following regulations may add costs and/or delays but they are there for a >> reason.

    Which means they cost something. Duh.

    Lack of regulations also cost something. Duh.

    Having worked in government most of my life I can tell you that some regulations are good -- they promote public or workplace safety, prevent businesses from hiring children, prevent monopolies, etc.

    A whole lot of them are only in place for the purpose of collecting money -- either through fines, fees, or hidden taxes -- and don't do anything for society.

    It is the latter group that most people who complain about regulations have
    a problem with.


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Mon Sep 2 10:55:58 2024
    On 01 Sep 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...


    The regulations don't cost anything. Doing things right might add costs. Doing things wrong will also add costs.


    Stop.... JC... During the depression my grandfather walked around with his tools fixing things... He'd knock on doors and offer his services. He fed his family that was during that time.

    When I was younger my brother and I could pickup a hammer and do the same thing...

    Today, I'd have to hire Safety people to do the simplest thing. Alan... who the f%^k pays for a safety supervisor... is it FREE??

    Kids today can't even sell lemonade on the corner without a permit...


    I have never seen any road take that long.


    Ask Barry... After the 2009 market collapse he was given out money for shovel ready projects... None were done because of regulations. Trump got into office and had that reduced to 2 years. If there was noway the road could be done you found out right away... well within 2 years and not 10 or 15 years later.

    You have no clue about the points you take.


    For Democrats its having to hire weird people, a lot of the times unfit unqualified for the job... Trump redefined it to Deport Every Illegal...

    That is not DEI.


    Trump redefined it... like the dems do all the time. I like Trump's DEI

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Mon Sep 2 15:00:50 2024
    Delection? Banning books is all the rage today.

    He wasn't talking about banning books. If you want to start a separate thread about that...

    Sure, I just made the comment that banning books and deregulation were not solutions. If you want a separate thread then by all means go for it.

    Just FYI, wanting the books in a childrens' school library to be age appropriate is not "banning books." Banning them means they cannot be legally found anywhere and I am not aware of anyone doing that. Please
    post some links to enlighten us.

    You haven't heard about the book bans? The info is out there, have a look.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Sep 3 00:14:30 2024
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-09-02 01:53:
    Go ahead and try to speak for millions of people who live in a country that you don't live in.

    Typical projection. *YOU* were the one who pretended to speak for other people.

    Unless you are megalomaniacal enough to use pluralis majestatis, "we" means more than you. So I asked you who *YOU* try to speak for.

    I'm beginning to realize that's typical leftie behavior.

    First of all, I'm not a leftie, I've always written with my right hand.

    Secondly, projection is the hallmark of the MAGA cult members, as decreed by their cult leader, the Orange Jesus.



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Mon Sep 2 17:03:18 2024
    Go ahead and try to speak for millions of people who live in a countr that you don't live in.

    Typical projection. *YOU* were the one who pretended to speak for
    other people.

    Here's what you said:

    "We? We, who? We, the brainwashed MAGA cult members? That I can
    believe. But the 40M living under the poverty level would rather pay the
    ultra-rich than be able to spend the money on their local shops and
    servicemen? Hardly."

    You were speaking for "40M" people, now you're claiming that I am the one who was speaking for others. That also is typical leftie behavior.

    Unless you are megalomaniacal enough to use pluralis majestatis, "we" means more than you. So I asked you who *YOU* try to speak for.

    Oh, I forgot. I was distracted by all that speaking for 40M people that you were doing.

    First of all, I'm not a leftie, I've always written with my right
    hand.

    And now George Soros does all the writing for you.

    Secondly, projection is the hallmark of the MAGA cult members, as decreed by their cult leader, the Orange Jesus.

    Right. I shouldn't project anything, I should just let the media and the world's elite do all the thinking for me.

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Tue Sep 3 08:49:00 2024
    Just FYI, wanting the books in a childrens' school library to be age appropriate is not "banning books." Banning them means they cannot be legally found anywhere and I am not aware of anyone doing that. Please post some links to enlighten us.

    You haven't heard about the book bans? The info is out there, have a look.

    Aside from some "third party" rubbish, the only (not) bans I have heard
    about, or seen any information on, are groups trying to make sure that
    their kids' school libraries are age appropriate for their kids' age and not adults.

    Now, I am aware of a leftist movement a few recent years back where they protested and protested and got some Dr. Seuss books effectively banned.
    Is that what you are talking about?


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Tue Sep 3 20:54:50 2024
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-09-03 01:03:
    Unless you are megalomaniacal enough to use pluralis majestatis, "we"
    means more than you. So I asked you who *YOU* try to speak for.

    Oh, I forgot. I was distracted by all that speaking for 40M people that you were doing.

    Ah yes, another infamous MAGA hallmark. Never answer a direct question. If you can't lie, deflect.

    "Deflection is a defense mechanism characterized by redirecting a conversation away from a challenging topic or issue to something less emotionally charged."

    Shall we give it another try?

    Who are the "we" that you claim to represent?



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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Tue Sep 3 15:18:58 2024
    Unless you are megalomaniacal enough to use pluralis majestatis,
    means more than you. So I asked you who *YOU* try to speak for.

    Oh, I forgot. I was distracted by all that speaking for 40M people th you were doing.

    Ah yes, another infamous MAGA hallmark. Never answer a direct question. If you can't lie, deflect.

    "Deflection is a defense mechanism characterized by redirecting a conversation away from a challenging topic or issue to something less emotionally charged."

    Shall we give it another try?

    Who are the "we" that you claim to represent?

    I speak for myself and not for other people. Speaking for other people is something that elitists do, and it's also something that people who watch too much tv do.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Björn Felten on Tue Sep 3 18:53:05 2024
    On 03 Sep 2024, Björn Felten said the following...

    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-09-03 01:03:
    Unless you are megalomaniacal enough to use pluralis majestatis, "
    means more than you. So I asked you who *YOU* try to speak for.

    Oh, I forgot. I was distracted by all that speaking for 40M people tha
    you were doing.

    Ah yes, another infamous MAGA hallmark. Never answer a direct
    question. If you can't lie, deflect.

    "We the people" - of the United States.
    This excludes you and that other piece of garbage from Canada as well.
    For the non-believers there is always Canada and of course Sweden.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Tue Sep 3 18:40:42 2024
    You haven't heard about the book bans? The info is out there, have a look.

    Aside from some "third party" rubbish,

    What third parties do you speak of?

    the only (not) bans I have heard about, or seen any information on, are groups trying to make sure that their kids' school libraries are age appropriate for their kids' age and not adults.

    Oh yeah, I'm on board. I don't think school libraries need to have porn on the shelves.

    Of course we both know that is not happening.

    Book bans are indeed all the rage in some places today.

    Book bans diminish the quality of education students have access to and restrict their exposure to important persepectives that form the fabric of a culturaly pluralist society (like the United States).

    Now, I am aware of a leftist movement a few recent years back where they protested and protested and got some Dr. Seuss books effectively banned.
    Is that what you are talking about?

    Is Dr. Suess banned? No.

    Six of Dr. Suess's lesser know works are no longer published because of racist imagery.

    Do you find that "leftist"?


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Alan Ianson on Tue Sep 3 22:21:46 2024
    Book bans are indeed all the rage in some places today.

    Book bans diminish the quality of education students have access to and restrict their exposure to important persepectives that form the fabric
    of a culturaly pluralist society (like the United States).

    Books are a form of media, and can be used as a mode of propagation. Books about mathematics, science, programming languages, punctuation, vocabulary, etc are safe enough to be shared with children, but it's books in the literature, history, and sociology categories that need to be reviewed by parents first, to make sure that the education system isn't trying to molest their brains.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Sep 4 00:40:38 2024
    Books are a form of media, and can be used as a mode of propagation. Books about mathematics, science, programming languages, punctuation, vocabulary, etc are safe enough to be shared with children, but it's books in the literature, history, and sociology categories that need to be reviewed by parents first, to make sure that the education system isn't trying to molest their brains.

    Oh, I agree parents should keep up with what their children are doing/reading in school. That's normal.

    Mike and I were discussing book bans. That's a little different.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Aaron Thomas on Wed Sep 4 15:52:41 2024
    Aaron Thomas -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-09-03 23:18:
    Who are the "we" that you claim to represent?

    I speak for myself and not for other people.

    We like having businesses and we like having jobs.

    I don't see an I here, but I can see two we.

    Don't you even understand how different this would look like if you said:

    "I like having businesses and I like having jobs."

    But no, it sounds much better if you pretend to be speaking for millionss of other people, doesn't it?

    When I mention the 40M US people living under the poverty level, I am the one pretending to be speaking of behalf of those people?

    What if I hade mentioned the 41M living in Canada, would that have made me speaking for all the Canadians?

    #MAGALogicFails


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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Björn Felten on Wed Sep 4 08:31:18 2024
    When I mention the 40M US people living under the poverty level, I
    am the one pretending to be speaking of behalf of those people?

    You didn't just simply mention them, you said what they would rather have. That's called speaking for someone else.

    We like having businesses and we like having jobs.

    We both spoke for other people. Shame on us. But back to the point: What would we have without businesses and jobs? Caves and loincloths?

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Wed Sep 4 10:49:00 2024
    You haven't heard about the book bans? The info is out there, have a look.

    Aside from some "third party" rubbish,

    What third parties do you speak of?

    Project 2025, talking heads on the Internet, etc.

    the only (not) bans I have heard about, or seen any information on, are groups trying to make sure that their kids' school libraries are age appropriate for their kids' age and not adults.

    Oh yeah, I'm on board. I don't think school libraries need to have porn on the
    shelves.

    Of course we both know that is not happening.

    Except it was. When Dale was here, he and I had a discussion about this. Someone posted a list of books that were on a "hit list," and he and I both agreed that some of them verged on porn and didn't need to be in public schools.

    A school system in the NE US even admitted as much. A parent attempted to
    read passages from a book from his elementary school aged kid's school
    library at a board of education meeting. The board cut him off stating
    that "reading pornography" during a meeting was not allowed.

    "Pornography" was their word, not the parent's.

    Book bans are indeed all the rage in some places today.

    Where in the USA are books being outright banned, where you cannot get a copy of said books anywhere anymore?

    Now, I am aware of a leftist movement a few recent years back where they protested and protested and got some Dr. Seuss books effectively banned.
    Is that what you are talking about?

    Is Dr. Suess banned? No.

    The books in question are no longer published and you cannot find them on
    offer any more. Internet sites won't allow used copies to be sold. Unless you can find them at a rummage sale, they are no longer available -- which is what "effectively banned" means.

    Six of Dr. Suess's lesser know works are no longer published because of racist
    imagery.

    Whether or not the imagery was racist was very questionable. The publisher
    had previously changed some of the language to better meet today's
    standards, but ultimately at least one of the books was banned for
    containing a picture of a Chinese character wearing a traditional Chinese outfit.

    That is where the rub really is. If China doesn't like something, it has
    to go away. In China, even though he was a major character in the movie, images of actor John Boyega (who is black) had to be shrunk or completely removed from movie posters and ads for Star Wars The Force Awakens.
    (Sources - The Guardian, CNN, Variety). Disney caved to the CCP and did
    that so they could make money showing the movie in China.

    TikTok shadowbans black creators for the same reason as TikTok is a Chinese company and therefore counts the CCP as one of its owners. Per a PBS
    special a couple of years back, this shadowbanning extended to the US
    TikTok platform as well (presumably to keep China happy).

    Google "TikTok shadow ban black people" to read about it.

    <sarcasm> Nothing racist there. </sarcasm>

    Do you find that "leftist"?

    Leftist generally don't like it when you bring up China being a reason that certain forms of racism are tolerated while other, non-racist things get labeled "racist."


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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Wed Sep 4 09:21:16 2024
    A school system in the NE US even admitted as much. A parent attempted to read passages from a book from his elementary school aged kid's school library at a board of education meeting. The board cut him off stating
    that "reading pornography" during a meeting was not allowed.

    "Pornography" was their word, not the parent's.

    That is not happening in Canada and I would be surprised if it is happening in the US. If such material slipped through the cracks it can be removed.

    If this was pointed out to a librarian it would be removed. Or am I wrong?

    Book bans are indeed all the rage in some places today.

    Where in the USA are books being outright banned, where you cannot get a copy of said books anywhere anymore?

    I don't have access to a web browser presently, but do a search for "list of banned books".

    Do you find that "leftist"?

    Leftist generally don't like it when you bring up China being a reason that certain forms of racism are tolerated while other, non-racist things get labeled "racist."

    Bring up China as you need. China is a deeply racist country. China's racism is a reality, not much to be done about it. I dunno, but I don't think China wants to talk about it, or much of anything at all.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Thu Sep 5 01:39:26 2024
    Hello Gregory,

    [..]

    Ah yes, another infamous MAGA hallmark. Never answer a direct
    question. If you can't lie, deflect.

    "We the people" - of the United States.
    This excludes you and that other piece of garbage from Canada as well.
    For the non-believers there is always Canada and of course Sweden.

    Come to Louisiana. Leave different.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Björn Felten on Thu Sep 5 13:09:40 2024
    Hello Björn,

    Who are the "we" that you claim to represent?

    I speak for myself and not for other people.

    We like having businesses and we like having jobs.

    I don't see an I here, but I can see two we.

    What is capital? What is labor? Are they one and the same thing?

    Don't you even understand how different this would look like if you said:

    "I like having businesses and I like having jobs."

    What he said is something far different.

    It is kind of like saying "I am my own grandpa."

    While within the realm of possibilities, it is far from likely.

    But no, it sounds much better if you pretend to be speaking for millionss of
    other people, doesn't it?

    Of course it does. That is why the state of Louisiana made it the
    official state tourism motto - "Come to Louisiana. Leave different."

    See how that works? The state of Louisiana speaks for millions
    of other people. In its own official words.

    When I mention the 40M US people living under the poverty level, I am the one pretending to be speaking of behalf of those people?

    That's right. The state has to make it official. Otherwise it is
    just your own opinion. For whatever that is worth.

    What if I hade mentioned the 41M living in Canada, would that have made me speaking for all the Canadians?

    Oh, come now. Canadians do not "come to Canada, leave different".

    #MAGALogicFails

    Logic is futile.

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Thu Sep 5 09:08:00 2024
    A school system in the NE US even admitted as much. A parent attempted to read passages from a book from his elementary school aged kid's school library at a board of education meeting. The board cut him off stating that "reading pornography" during a meeting was not allowed.

    "Pornography" was their word, not the parent's.

    That is not happening in Canada and I would be surprised if it is happening in
    the US. If such material slipped through the cracks it can be removed.

    If this was pointed out to a librarian it would be removed. Or am I wrong?

    Im past, yes. In the current climate, it would depend on what it was. If
    it is a book that depicts (with non-scientific illustrations) two young
    boys sexually experimenting on each other, it very well might not be
    removed.

    If it is a boy and a girl then, yes, it probably will be.

    Leftist generally don't like it when you bring up China being a reason that certain forms of racism are tolerated while other, non-racist things get labeled "racist."

    Bring up China as you need. China is a deeply racist country. China's racism i
    a reality, not much to be done about it. I dunno, but I don't think China want
    to talk about it, or much of anything at all.

    I agree with your statements. That said, being as racist as they are, we should not allow them to dictate to us what is racist or not as they
    obviously don't have a clue.


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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Sep 6 07:08:12 2024
    "We the people" - of the United States.
    This excludes you and that other piece of garbage from Canada as well.
    For the non-believers there is always Canada and of course Sweden.

    Come to Louisiana. Leave different.
    I might just do that. One day.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/201 to Gregory Deyss on Fri Sep 6 07:18:48 2024
    Come to Louisiana. Leave different.
    I might just do that. One day.

    Hell yea. They have a good governor!

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Mike Powell on Fri Sep 6 08:18:52 2024
    If this was pointed out to a librarian it would be removed. Or am I wrong?

    Im past, yes. In the current climate, it would depend on what it was. If
    it is a book that depicts (with non-scientific illustrations) two young
    boys sexually experimenting on each other, it very well might not be
    removed.

    If it is a boy and a girl then, yes, it probably will be.

    I don't think sexual experimentation of any kind is part of school curriculum and has no place in school library. Reporting such material to a librarian should be enough to remove the book from the school library.

    Bring up China as you need. China is a deeply racist country. China's racism
    i
    a reality, not much to be done about it. I dunno, but I don't think China
    want
    to talk about it, or much of anything at all.

    I agree with your statements. That said, being as racist as they are, we should not allow them to dictate to us what is racist or not as they obviously don't have a clue.

    Agreed. I wouldn't take China's word for anything, or let them dictate anything at all.

    That's not to say I wouldn't talk to them and hope for better.. but..

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to ALAN IANSON on Sun Sep 8 13:19:00 2024
    If this was pointed out to a librarian it would be removed. Or am I wrong?

    Im past, yes. In the current climate, it would depend on what it was. If it is a book that depicts (with non-scientific illustrations) two young boys sexually experimenting on each other, it very well might not be removed.

    If it is a boy and a girl then, yes, it probably will be.

    I don't think sexual experimentation of any kind is part of school curriculum and has no place in school library. Reporting such material to a librarian should be enough to remove the book from the school library.

    You are hitting on the problem, thought. That is what most people think
    but when parents complain they get hit with a "phobia" and "book banner" accusation when, in reality, they are trying to have things that really
    have no place in a school library removed from that library.

    I agree with your statements. That said, being as racist as they are, we should not allow them to dictate to us what is racist or not as they obviously don't have a clue.

    Agreed. I wouldn't take China's word for anything, or let them dictate anythin
    at all.

    That's not to say I wouldn't talk to them and hope for better.. but..

    It is worth a shot, but I would not get your hopes up. ;)


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Sep 9 21:43:00 2024
    Hello Gregory,

    "We the people" - of the United States.
    This excludes you and that other piece of garbage from Canada as
    well.
    For the non-believers there is always Canada and of course
    Sweden.

    Come to Louisiana. Leave different.

    I might just do that. One day.

    New Orleans Saints vs New York Jets
    February 9, 2025
    Super Bowl LIX
    Caesars Superdome
    New Orleans, Louisiana

    Derek Carr and Aaron Rodgers
    lighting up the scoreboard for
    all to enjoy.

    With Kendrick Lamar performing
    at halftime.

    Be there!

    For Life,
    Lee

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