• XXY, YYX, he/she/it

    From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Thu Sep 23 08:28:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Wednesday 22.09.21 - 19:42, George Pope wrote to JOE MACKEY:

    "Follow the science!" You mean the same science that
    says men can be women and women men
    when
    the mood strikes them? The same science that says men can
    have babies, etc?

    This is science now?! Not the science I've read.

    The only objective fact in determining a person's rightful
    sex is the XY chromie that is in EVERY cell of your body.

    Apparently there *is* a condition that gives incumbent males an
    extra Y chromosone for XYY, Jacob's Syndrome. There is also a
    situation where males can have XXY, Klinefelter syndrome. But
    they are anything but normal.


    I don't cware what people call themselves, or if they play
    dressup with clothes or surgety to be a different sex, in
    appearance; I'll call you he or she,. whatebver you
    prefer, but I'm well-read in my native language & I refuse
    to use a plural pronoun to refer to a singular human.

    I'll simply avoid using pronouns & only use his/her/its name!

    When in a modern group's meeting & asked my preferred
    pronouns, I say, "just 'you'; I'd rather you talk TO me,
    not ABOUT me!"

    I agree. "You" and/or their name seems to be all that is
    required.


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Daryl Stout on Thu Sep 23 08:37:00 2021
    Hello Daryl Stout!

    ** On Thursday 23.09.21 - 04:43, Daryl Stout wrote to George Pope:

    [...] And, they keep finding stuff wrong with me...most
    recently, atrial flutter. The medication, and cutting out
    caffeine with iced tea, candy, chocolate, etc., has
    stabilized the heart rate and the blood pressure...but it
    has aggravated the migraines.

    I think it would be a shorter list if you provided a list of
    what you DON'T have. :/ Were you a premature baby?


    Except enhanced the politicians pockets. For all the
    money that's spent with the local, state, congressional,
    and presidential elections...with ads for radio, TV,
    print, online, etc. -- as well as things like signs,
    bumper stickers, T-shirts, etc. -- we'd have enough to
    pay off the national debt.

    Ah.. but it provides income and jobs for all those ads, radio,
    TV, print, online , etc. :/


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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Fri Sep 24 08:02:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Wednesday 22.09.21 - 19:42, George Pope wrote to JOE MACKEY:

    I don't cware what people call themselves, or if they play
    dressup with clothes or surgety to be a different sex, in
    appearance; I'll call you he or she,. whatebver you
    prefer, but I'm well-read in my native language & I refuse
    to use a plural pronoun to refer to a singular human.

    I'll simply avoid using pronouns & only use his/her/its name!

    This is from an article that I saw posted, today:

    " Pennsylvania University Threatens to Punish Students for
    Misusing Classmates' Pronouns

    " Point Park Uni placed students on warning, saying in an email
    that "action could be taken" if they don't respect their
    classmates' preferred pronouns.

    " An email from the university's Office of Equity and
    Inclusion, first obtained by Campus Reform, informed students
    of its anti-discrimination policies, including its
    "Misgendering, Pronoun Misuse, and Deadnaming Policy."

    " If an individual is impacted in a harmful way, action could
    be taken if a complaint is filed," the email reads. It is
    unclear what 'action' the school intends to take against those
    who violate the policy.

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 10 12:38:54 2021
    I'll simply avoid using pronouns & only use his/her/its name!

    This is from an article that I saw posted, today:

    " Pennsylvania University Threatens to Punish Students for
    Misusing Classmates' Pronouns

    " Point Park Uni placed students on warning, saying in an email
    that "action could be taken" if they don't respect their
    classmates' preferred pronouns.

    " An email from the university's Office of Equity and
    Inclusion, first obtained by Campus Reform, informed students
    of its anti-discrimination policies, including its
    "Misgendering, Pronoun Misuse, and Deadnaming Policy."

    " If an individual is impacted in a harmful way, action could
    be taken if a complaint is filed," the email reads. It is
    unclear what 'action' the school intends to take against those
    who violate the policy.

    Not he first uni to establish such a policy. . . the death begins with the schools. . . :(

    I think even Harvard is in the game. . (!)

    Well, I have no way pf knowing what your preferred pronoun is, so unless you have it on your fgorehead in permanentymarker, I'll call you as I sees you.
    Oh, you told me (sorry, my hearing ain't so good, SIR! & my memory's even worse)

    I believe in real science -- things are to be established by repea5table study or experiment.

    The only consistent & objectively esablished fact i s the XY chromosome.

    You can dress uyp with clothing butthat don't hide your primary sexual cgharaxteristic (innie or outie genitals) & you can use surgery to dress up your crotch, but your XY still tells the truth.

    Children playing, because they're dissartisfied with their shitty lives.

    & refuse to believe it all comes down to making wise personal choices & maybe a General Arts major isn't the way towards a better future. Maybe you got to take more difficult classes, & actially LEARN at school (BY GOD!! The horror! The inhumanity!!)

    I got no sdchooling, but I know it, & I'm doing my best to make wise choices from where I'm at.

    If I get dealt into a poker game late, it doesn't mean I have to lose.

    Ditto if I get crappy cards. . . I'm in it to win it (life or poker)





    Your friend,

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Sun Oct 10 12:49:31 2021
    The only objective fact in determining a person's rightful
    sex is the XY chromie that is in EVERY cell of your body.

    Apparently there *is* a condition that gives incumbent males an
    extra Y chromosone for XYY, Jacob's Syndrome. There is also a
    situation where males can have XXY, Klinefelter syndrome. But
    they are anything but normal.

    Right, what's the incidence rate? Enough to, apparently, flip all of socierty on its ear & intreoduce "assigned male at birth" & "assigned female at birth" asds the key options in sex/gender identification.

    I was not assigned male at birth. I was born a male & here I am, still one!

    Okay, God assigned me male, but are we going to take Him on?. Ive read what happens when we do -- not healthy!

    AFB makes sense in a cae where they had one of the above rare syndromes, & the parents & doctor made a decision to do some surgery to make the genital records clearly one way or the other.

    Anyway, why does the DMV need to know what genitalia I have?

    & why the tax agents?

    You want to know if I'm male or female, here *unzip* take a picture, it'll last longer!

    & stop your bloody gossiping! Nobody needs to refer to me in the third person. . . If you do, use mt full name, to avoid errors. . .

    Not that anyone usdes the third person pronouns correctly anyway (they refer to the most antecedent noun, not 3 nouns back, & not without a context to determne who "he" refers to, being as "he' might be callijng himself "she" or "they")

    Ludicrous.

    I refuse to play. I'm naturally a respectful/polite/kind person, but my menmory really does suck.

    I generally use breasts &/or beards to choose a title (Mr. or Ms.); if Im 'wrong' pleae opi.tely 'correct' me & tell me the one I should've used & I'll apoligize & try to remnember.

    &,, no, a sculpted 2mm deep 'pattern' on your chin is not a real beard -- it's cosmetic artwork. It could be drawn on herself by a breasted & vaginated woman, & then I'm really confused.






    I don't cware what people call themselves, or if they play
    dressup with clothes or surgety to be a different sex, in
    appearance; I'll call you he or she,. whatebver you
    prefer, but I'm well-read in my native language & I refuse
    to use a plural pronoun to refer to a singular human.

    I'll simply avoid using pronouns & only use his/her/its name!

    When in a modern group's meeting & asked my preferred
    pronouns, I say, "just 'you'; I'd rather you talk TO me,
    not ABOUT me!"

    I agree. "You" and/or their name seems to be all that is
    required.


    --
    ../|ug

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    * Origin: Time moves in one direction, memory in another. -WG- (2:221/1.58)

    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to George Pope on Sun Oct 10 20:50:00 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 10.10.21 - 12:38, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    Well, I have no way pf knowing what your preferred pronoun
    is, so unless you have it on your fgorehead in
    permanentymarker, I'll call you as I sees you. Oh, you
    told me (sorry, my hearing ain't so good, SIR! & my
    memory's even worse)

    Yep.. just use the person's proper/given name. Case closed.


    You can dress uyp with clothing butthat don't hide your
    primary sexual cgharaxteristic (innie or outie genitals) &
    you can use surgery to dress up your crotch, but your XY
    still tells the truth.

    And.. there's the life-long requirement of hormone therapy to
    prolong the illusion. Insane.

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to August Abolins on Tue Oct 12 09:39:05 2021
    Hello George Pope!

    ** On Sunday 10.10.21 - 12:38, George Pope wrote to August Abolins:

    Well, I have no way pf knowing what your preferred pronoun
    is, so unless you have it on your fgorehead in
    permanentymarker, I'll call you as I sees you. Oh, you
    told me (sorry, my hearing ain't so good, SIR! & my
    memory's even worse)

    Yep.. just use the person's proper/given name. Case closed.

    You know, the gener-others aren't the ones whiing anbout pronouns, as they aren't going to be hearing "him" or "her" too often; it's whiny guilty bleeding hearts who stir it all up. Just like "Native Americans/Canadians"; thgey predfer the term Indian & laugh atr us quesing to get ever more convoluted in avoiding this. . .

    Columbus didn't think he was in India -- As an explorer, he knew the diference & likely knew matterings of the language. Some of the crew would've been good interpreters. George Carlin posits that Chris, trying to speak pidgin Spanish to his new sponsors, was saying a people "in Dios" (a people in God -- meaning they were found to be living at one with nature)

    I know a local hereabouts who describes himself as gender fluid. One day he's a he, another he's a she; different names in use each time -- I think this is a clever ruse by our universal medical system not to have to pay to treat his multiple personality disordy.

    "Whatever you say you are is what you are."

    Say WHAAAT?! Since when?! Okay, I are a 17yo girl & I wish to attend the all girls' high school near here! OOOOOH!Now the turkey turns?! BAH!

    & when that gal in Frisco said she was black, they turned on her -- so it's quite relative -- the last I checked, science is based on reproducible FACTS. Not invented plumbs.

    The n-word is basd,. but "the n-word" is okay?! When you say "the n-word" my brain translates it to the word, so what did you accomplish?

    & stop calling me physically challenged -- Sir Edmund Hillary was physically challenged. I'm just crippled.

    & if you're blind, you're not "sight impaired"; you're blind! My neighbour who has 5% vision in one eye & 0 in the other is visually impaired.

    I just am tired of being forced to play a game I don't even like (but I'm still better at it than most!)




    You can dress uyp with clothing butthat don't hide your
    primary sexual cgharaxteristic (innie or outie genitals) &
    you can use surgery to dress up your crotch, but your XY
    still tells the truth.

    And.. there's the life-long requirement of hormone therapy to
    prolong the illusion. Insane.

    --
    ../|ug

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    Your friend,

    <+]:{)}
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Mon Oct 18 07:00:00 2021
    George,

    need to use a CPAP when sleeping.

    I have such sinus issues (have had them for 45 years), that I cough and
    hack like a cat with a hairball every time after I eat, or lie down for
    a nap or overnight sleep. They have tried numerous things to treat it, to
    no avail. So, it's pointless for me to wear a mask.

    Umm, yeah, great bedside manner, Doc!

    Attorney: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have been on dead people??
    Doctor: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight. <G>

    So, yes, I thank God regularly that I am here to continue my life's mission, whatever it is(or they are). . .

    We're still here for a reason.

    Daryl

    ... When it comes to being SANE, I'm with the "IN" crowd.
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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Mon Oct 18 13:35:29 2021
    George,

    need to use a CPAP when sleeping.

    I have such sinus issues (have had them for 45 years), that I cough and hack like a cat with a hairball every time after I eat, or lie down for
    a nap or overnight sleep. They have tried numerous things to treat it, to
    no avail. So, it's pointless for me to wear a mask.

    The masks always never fit right, so now I use the nose pillows type (two soft rings that fit just inside my nostrills & aim the air flow directly in)

    Attorney: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have been on dead people?? Doctor: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight. <G>

    A: how can you be sure they're dead?
    D: Well, I removed the brain completely, so I guess it's possible the person is still out there practicing law somewhere. Hmmm, seems you do look familiar. . .

    So, yes, I thank God regularly that I am here to continue my life's mission, whatever it is(or they are). . .

    We're still here for a reason.

    Yup. Don't always know for sure, but we keep on going, expecting it to be revbealed when important (it's NTK only)

    Your friend,

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:2320/33 to George Pope on Tue Oct 19 16:45:00 2021
    George,

    The masks always never fit right, so now I use the nose pillows type
    (two soft rings that fit just inside my nostrills & aim the air flow directly in)

    Plus, you look like an astronaut, and you have an all day hickey on
    your face. :P

    Attorney: Doctor, how many of your autopsies have been on dead people?? Doctor: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight. <G>

    A: how can you be sure they're dead?
    D: Well, I removed the brain completely, so I guess it's possible the person is still out there practicing law somewhere. Hmmm, seems you do look familiar. . .

    <ZING!!> <G>

    Yup. Don't always know for sure, but we keep on going, expecting it to
    be revealed when important (it's NTK only)

    Well, I got good news and bad news today.

    I don't have glaucoma...the eye pressures were between 11 and 15, which
    is normal, and the visual acuity was 20/15, which is excellent.

    But, I need to have the right eye now done with Yag Laser Surgery. That
    is normally done after cataract surgery...the left eye was done shortly
    after the cataract surgery.

    It's impossible to drive at night, and I'm getting fog with the
    bright lights (headlights or brake lights), at night, and during
    the day. So, with the $300 co-pay required for it, as well as for
    the EGD and colonoscopy (which I'm overdue for), I've resolved that
    it's medically necessary for me to sell my car next week.

    I can get groceries and medications delivered...and I'll use Uber
    only once every 2 weeks to go to the Post Office Box...and to what
    few doctors appointments I have. For procedures where I have to be
    sedated, that's harder...as they won't let you use any form of
    public transportation...and all of my friends work during the day.

    But, it will suck being home except for 2 days a month, and then,
    only going to the Post Office Box to get mail.

    Daryl

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Wed Oct 20 09:52:51 2021
    The masks always never fit right, so now I use the nose pillows type (two soft rings that fit just inside my nostrills & aim the air flow directly in)

    Plus, you look like an astronaut, and you have an all day hickey on
    your face. :P

    With the full face mask? Mine made me look more like the guy from Silence of the Lambs, I think. . .

    I don't have glaucoma...the eye pressures were between 11 and 15, which
    is normal, and the visual acuity was 20/15, which is excellent.

    Nice!

    But, I need to have the right eye now done with Yag Laser Surgery. That
    is normally done after cataract surgery...the left eye was done shortly after the cataract surgery.

    It's impossible to drive at night, and I'm getting fog with the
    bright lights (headlights or brake lights), at night, and during
    the day. So, with the $300 co-pay required for it, as well as for
    the EGD and colonoscopy (which I'm overdue for), I've resolved that
    it's medically necessary for me to sell my car next week.

    That's a responsible choice, for sure. Too many would push it out of stubbornness then cause an accident one night.

    I can get groceries and medications delivered...and I'll use Uber
    only once every 2 weeks to go to the Post Office Box...and to what
    few doctors appointments I have. For procedures where I have to be
    sedated, that's harder...as they won't let you use any form of
    public transportation...and all of my friends work during the day.

    Do you have a local volunteerism or seniors' organisation where you could request for a volunteer driver?

    But, it will suck being home except for 2 days a month, and then,
    only going to the Post Office Box to get mail.

    Yup; Luckily you have internet & ham to stay connected to the human race in a covid-safe way!

    I wush you well, my friend. & safety & success with the eye surgery (is it cataract-prevention in the second eye?)

    Your friend,

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  • From George Pope@1:153/757.2 to Daryl Stout on Fri Oct 22 12:14:09 2021
    If I have to call or text, I pull off the road, and put the car in PARK. Then, I'm doing it safely, and the cops can't touch me.

    Depends om how aggressive their latetst funds grabbing campaign is -- they mioght cite you for distracting other drivers.

    I had originally considered a hands free option with the car, but now, I just decline the call if it comes in (especially if I don't recognize who
    it is). For those I recognize, I will find a spot to pull off the road,
    to finish the conversation, or I ask them if I can call them back in a
    few minutes.

    I don't get the hands-free is okay thing; you're still distracted! (not your eyes, maybe, but your attention is certainly not 100% on the road)

    Do you have a local volunteerism or seniors' organisation where you could request for a volunteer driver?

    Not to my knowledge.

    Start one? You can even join nextdoor.com & put out a request. (No harm in asking)

    At least without a car, there won't be any more payments for repairs, gasoline, flat tires, dead batteries, catalytic converter theft, insurance, etc.

    There you go -- focus on the positives. . . :)

    Your friend,

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