Do you think that somebody in Ukraine will tell good about Russia to the reporter surrounded by a pack of Ukrainian nationalists? ;=)

When Putin croaks, nobody in Ukraine will mind that a reporter reports on it.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 20.03.2022 00:13

DP> Putin lied that he won't start a war. Lied for many months.
DP> And now you are blaming Ukranians?

Don't tell me a fairy tale that the Ukrainians tell only the truth.

DP> Who told you about chlorine? Russian TV?

The false canister with chlorine was in Syria and many bit it, and Syria
was bombed. Then reporters found all the actors of the story, "victims" including. Taking in account numerous accusations that Russia uses
chemicals to kill such a scenario is very likely and expected.

Bye, Dmitry!
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Hello, alexander!

Sunday March 20 2022 20:55, you wrote to me:

Putin lied that he won't start a war. Lied for many months.
And now you are blaming Ukranians?

Don't tell me a fairy tale that the Ukrainians tell only the truth.

I am telling you Putin is a lier.

Who told you about chlorine? Russian TV?

The false canister with chlorine was in Syria and many bit it, and

Syria had and used chemical weapons, thats the truth. The same as did Iraq. They were both ruled, in fact, by very similar people - BAATH Party.

Syria was bombed. Then reporters found all the actors of the story, "victims" including. Taking in account numerous accusations that
Russia uses chemicals to kill such a scenario is very likely and
expected.

Putin's assassins used Novichok agent against it's own citizens. That's so sad :(

Best regards,
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Hello, alexander!

Sunday March 20 2022 11:29, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

I said again -- it is completely wrong to say that Russian media under
Putin control tells a lie only. I have already told you a Russian
saying "Strength is in the truth". Putin's propaganda is based on many

No, it was Ghandi who used Satyagraha (truth-force) as his main political idea:

"Its root meaning is holding on to truth, hence truth-force. I have also called it love-force or soul-force. In the application of satyagraha, I discovered in the earliest stages that pursuit of truth did not admit of violence being inflicted on one's opponent but that he must be weaned from error by patience and compassion. For what appears to be truth to the one may appear to be error to the other. And patience means self-suffering. So the doctrine came to mean vindication of truth, not by infliction of suffering on the opponent, but on oneself"

Russian film director Balabanov just took this slogan and used in Russian film "Brother" where, actually, everyone (!) is lying.
Main protagonist did it form the beginning. Film became popular among young Russians and the slogan from the film started to spread across the country.

But the whole idea was that "truth" was never there, it was full of lies and violence, and both "Brothers" from film were lying to each other.




Best regards,
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Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 20.03.2022 12:44

AI>>> RT is not news. It is propaganda. There is much of that here and
AI>>> it makes it hard to find real news and facts. I have not been
AI>>> reading sputnik but I'll assume it was also propaganda. I will
AI>>> not miss any of it.
ak>> I say it again -- it is completely wrong to say that Russian media
ak>> under Putin control tells a lie only. I have already told you a
ak>> Russian saying "Strength is in the truth".
AI> I agree.

ak>> Putin's propaganda is based on many real facts and events.
AI> Here's a real fact and event. Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24
AI> 2022. It has since then attacked the country as a whole and done
AI> vast amounts of damage and killed and injured many (I can't be sure
AI> of the actual numbers). More than 3,300,000 refugees, 600,000
AI> displaced people.

AI> The above is truth, fact. How does that compare to what you get on
AI> state media?

If you want to know the background of the event you must listen both
parties; what they say the reason and history of the conflict. Not
knowing it it is impossible to do adequate conclusions. The Donbass
siege (the core of the events) has been lasting for 8 years and
wonderfully there was no place for it in western media. To be exactly,
it repeated everything that Kiev claimed. Nobody paid attention to 14
thousand people killed in Donbass by Ukrainian troops etc. In short it
was and is a very serious problem, and people of Donbass have suffered greatly.

Doing this invasion Putin in many ways has discredited this suffering
and actually made Russians guilty everywhere, although it is the case.
So I repeat -- don't mix the problem of the civil war in Ukraine with
Putin and his thoughtless actions. The beginning the solving of the
problem should begin from the time when violence started - the spring of
2014.

ak>> Yes it contains many lies, but it also contains much truth. And
ak>> you voluntarily deprive yourself from this big part of the truth.
ak>> And your position became biased.

AI> I have to turn it off because I know it contains lies and I don't
AI> want to travel that road.

Everything in this world contains lies. Do you remember a fucking
American lie which led to invasion in Iraq and a million killed? At
least Americans know how to lie very well. You can also remember how
they started war in Vietnam, also using a lie.

<skipped>
AI>>> much respect and admiration for Zelensky. He is a great leader.
AI>>> he is a polar opposite to that man names Putin.

ak>> He is a professional actor, a professional clown, and he knows
ak>> very well how to work with public. But exactly his unwillingness
ak>> to solve the Donbass problem for so many years and his policy
ak>> towards the conflict escalation has led to the present day
ak>> situation. Very much blood lies on the Zelensky hands.

AI> Did Zelensky create the problems in the Donbass?

Yes, of course. I have already told you about great Ukrainian suffering,
on the verge of bloody diarrhea -- nor Poroshenko (was before Zelensky)
nor Zelensky could not decide what to do with Donbass -- should they
negotiate with the rebels and make concessions to them or may be Ukraine troops some day will be able to cut their throats. This winter Ukraine
has built up a huge army group in Donbass and it was obvious it was
going to the latter scenario.

AI> Russia (or Putin) supported the separatists in the Donbass for his
AI> own reasons. Not because he cared about Russian speakers that he is
AI> killing today the same as Ukraininan speakers.

AI> The blood for this war in on Putins hands and those military
AI> leaders who started and continue the war.

No, it is not Putin who started it. Al least, we should say that both
parties of the conflict carry their part of the responsibility. But nationalists-idiots were first.

Bye, Alan!
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Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 20.03.2022 12:50

ak>> Probably Russia saw a good example in face of the US who does
ak>> everything it wants in every part of the world, and asks nobody's
ak>> permission. In other words the real situation is the following --
ak>> if you are strong you can do what a weak cannot do. Weak parties
ak>> should think twice or more before teasing the beast with a bunch
ak>> of nukes under his belt,

AI> This is fascism.

It's life. Even in a kindergarten the relations between strong and weak
are similar. In addition, the word "fascism" everybody interprets as he wishes, often incorrectly. Fascism is when a small violent group wanted
to make people to do things they order, threatening with reprisals,
physical violence etc. All the opponents are labelled as enemies and
they are subjects for repressions or even elimination. That is what
Ukrainian nationalists started to do in Ukraine.

AI> If your brother/friend struggles will you stand up and help him in
AI> some way? That is strength.

AI> Stepping on someone weaker than you is weakness.

ak>> who in addition is next to them. Nationalists in Ukraine, if they
ak>> were not so idiots, should have calculated what their policy of
ak>> forceful ukrainizaion can lead their country.

AI> Ukrainization?

Yes. Well, just imagine the bilingual Ukraine before 2014 and the
Russian speaking population of its east and south. And one day the power
is captured by the people who issued the orders that Russian language is
not state language any more, that at every office, bar, schools should
used Ukrainian. I said it before you that Ukraine since 20-th century
has been historically divided in two parts. And to preserve the peace
the Kiev policy should be wise and balanced. But what happened after
2014 can be called a national fascism.

PS: I don't deny that in today's Russia is a totalitarian society. So
Russians in Ukraine have had a poor choice.

Bye, Alan!
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Hi, Ward Dossche!
I read your message from 20.03.2022 15:05

ak>> Do you think that somebody in Ukraine will tell good about
ak>> Russia to the reporter surrounded by a pack of Ukrainian
ak>> nationalists? ;=)
WD> When Putin croaks, nobody in Ukraine will mind that a reporter
WD> reports on it.

I meant that a person will had his ass kicked if he says something
different than those spectators are expected from him. ;-)

Bye, Ward!
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Hello, alexander!

Monday March 21 2022 11:04, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

problem should begin from the time when violence started - the spring
of 2014.

When Russian sent groups of fighters to Ukraine.

I have to turn it off because I know it contains lies and I
don't want to travel that road.

Everything in this world contains lies. Do you remember a fucking
American lie which led to invasion in Iraq and a million killed? At

It was not a lie, BTW. All investigation stories tells us that US made a mistake and it was officially recognized.
Putin will never tell you he was wrong.

least Americans know how to lie very well. You can also remember how
they started war in Vietnam, also using a lie.

War in Virtnam started long before americans were involded and it wasn't a lie.

-- should they negotiate with the rebels and make concessions to them

It was impossible to do so because they were and still are under direct control of Russia.
They are just puppets. You do not talk to puppets.

or may be Ukraine troops some day will be able to cut their throats.
This winter Ukraine has built up a huge army group in Donbass and it
was obvious it was going to the latter scenario.

It was obvious that Russia will invade. For Baiden, not for me.
Putin was lying and Baiden ws not.

No, it is not Putin who started it. Al least, we should say that both

Putin annexed Crimea and sent fighters to Eastern Ukraine.
That's the facts.

parties of the conflict carry their part of the responsibility. But nationalists-idiots were first.

The biggest idiot is Putin who is detroying our economy. Even Eltsin was better and smarter.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, alexander!

Monday March 21 2022 11:30, you wrote to Alan Ianson:

That is what Ukrainian nationalists started to do in Ukraine.

This is what Russians are doing in Ukraine right now.

Ukrainization?

Yes. Well, just imagine the bilingual Ukraine before 2014 and the
Russian speaking population of its east and south. And one day the
power is captured by the people who issued the orders that Russian language is not state language any more, that at every office, bar,

Russian language was not a state language in Ukraine, please stop spreading fake information.

schools should used Ukrainian. I said it before you that Ukraine since

Fake news again, current law allows use of Russian language. And I've told many times that Russian laws are even more strict than Ukranians.

20-th century has been historically divided in two parts. And to
preserve the peace the Kiev policy should be wise and balanced. But
what happened after 2014 can be called a national fascism.

Called by who? By Putin who sent forces to make Mariupol a new Stalingrad?

PS: I don't deny that in today's Russia is a totalitarian society. So Russians in Ukraine have had a poor choice.

All my Russian friends in Kiev never had any problems with Russian language - that's the reality.
I was using only Russian language in Ukraine (I've been in Kiev 2 times) without any issues.
But the state language was and is Ukranian. Any public office is expected to provide service in Ukranian.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 20.03.2022 00:23

ak>> good reason. But surely it is obvious who triggered the
ak>> events. And I said it many times.
DP> Putin.

Or maybe it was tongue-tied Yanukovich who could not explain
understandably why he had postponed the association Ukraine with EU? ;-)

Bye, Dmitry!
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Hello, alexander!

Monday March 21 2022 15:29, you wrote to me:

good reason. But surely it is obvious who triggered the
events. And I said it many times.

Putin.

Or maybe it was tongue-tied Yanukovich who could not explain understandably why he had postponed the association Ukraine with EU?
;-)

Ukraine had it's own problems, we had ours. Russia is a poor country, where median income was less than 500 euro.
But Putin decided that it's better to cut some territory from Ukraine instead of doing any major reforms to help our economy.

Without Putin this internal conflict had all chances to be resolved without major events outside of Kiev.

Best regards,
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Hello, alexander!

BTW, Euronews website is now blocked in Russia.

Best regards,
dp.

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Here's a real fact and event. Russia invaded Ukraine on Feb. 24
2022. It has since then attacked the country as a whole and done
vast amounts of damage and killed and injured many (I can't be sure
of the actual numbers). More than 3,300,000 refugees, 600,000
displaced people.

Of course I meant 6,000,000.

The above is truth, fact. How does that compare to what you get on
state media?

If you want to know the background of the event you must listen both
parties; what they say the reason and history of the conflict.

I know the background of the event. The question I asked was "How does that compare to what you get on state media?".

Not knowing it it is impossible to do adequate conclusions. The Donbass
siege (the core of the events) has been lasting for 8 years and
wonderfully there was no place for it in western media. To be exactly,
it repeated everything that Kiev claimed. Nobody paid attention to 14 thousand people killed in Donbass by Ukrainian troops etc. In short it
was and is a very serious problem, and people of Donbass have suffered greatly.

The Donbass siege was carried out by Russia.

Doing this invasion Putin in many ways has discredited this suffering
and actually made Russians guilty everywhere, although it is the case.
So I repeat -- don't mix the problem of the civil war in Ukraine with
Putin and his thoughtless actions. The beginning the solving of the
problem should begin from the time when violence started - the spring of 2014.

I wouldn't call the Donbass issue a civil war. In any case it is a Ukraine issue and needs to be solved by Ukraine.

Everything in this world contains lies.

No, although there are liars in this world.

Do you remember a fucking American lie which led to invasion in Iraq and a million killed? At least Americans know how to lie very well.

Are you talking about all the talk of WMD? Yes, that was a mitake if those who spoke that way believed it. It was a lie if they were lying.

Did Zelensky create the problems in the Donbass?

Yes, of course.

Of course he inherited these issues when he was elected in 2019. He did not create the issues. Russia exploited them then as it does today.

I have already told you about great Ukrainian suffering,
on the verge of bloody diarrhea -- nor Poroshenko (was before Zelensky)
nor Zelensky could not decide what to do with Donbass -- should they negotiate with the rebels and make concessions to them or may be Ukraine troops some day will be able to cut their throats. This winter Ukraine
has built up a huge army group in Donbass and it was obvious it was
going to the latter scenario.

You mean when Russia amassed ~200,000 troops on their border?

The blood for this war in on Putins hands and those military
leaders who started and continue the war.

No, it is not Putin who started it.

It is.

Al least, we should say that both parties of the conflict carry their part
of the responsibility. But nationalists-idiots were first.

Nationalist-idiots in Russia who don't/won't understand that Ukraine is a sovereign nation.

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This is fascism.

It's life.

No, that was fascism.

Even in a kindergarten the relations between strong and weak
are similar. In addition, the word "fascism" everybody interprets as he wishes, often incorrectly. Fascism is when a small violent group wanted
to make people to do things they order, threatening with reprisals,
physical violence etc. All the opponents are labelled as enemies and
they are subjects for repressions or even elimination. That is what
Ukrainian nationalists started to do in Ukraine.

In a comparison between nations Russia is the bigger (by a lot). Does that mean Russia can do as it pleases in Ukraine? Of course not.

Ukrainization?

Yes. Well,

It is more fascism.

just imagine the bilingual Ukraine before 2014 and the
Russian speaking population of its east and south. And one day the power
is captured by the people who issued the orders that Russian language is
not state language any more, that at every office, bar, schools should
used Ukrainian. I said it before you that Ukraine since 20-th century
has been historically divided in two parts. And to preserve the peace
the Kiev policy should be wise and balanced. But what happened after
2014 can be called a national fascism.

I agree, Russia has made a huge mess in Ukraine that I don't think it can untangle itself from at this point.

PS: I don't deny that in today's Russia is a totalitarian society. So Russians in Ukraine have had a poor choice.

I hope that your conclusion is wrong. Your gov't is totalitarian but I hope that Russian society is not and that the Russian people will find a way out of their current situation.

If that is what they want.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 21.03.2022 11:38

AI>>> I have to turn it off because I know it contains lies and I don't
AI>>> want to travel that road.
ak>> Everything in this world contains lies. Do you remember a fucking
ak>> American lie which led to invasion in Iraq and a million killed?
ak>> At

DP> It was not a lie, BTW. All investigation stories tells us that US
DP> made a mistake and it was officially recognized. Putin will never
DP> tell you he was wrong.

It was a Lie, at the Goebbels' level. As for an investigation, yea,
maybe in some time in Russia also will be some investigation. ;-)

ak>> least Americans know how to lie very well. You can also remember
ak>> how they started war in Vietnam, also using a lie.

DP> War in Virtnam started long before americans were involded and it
DP> wasn't a lie.

The matter is not in the Vietnam war, but in the American invasion and
its false, fabricated pretext.

ak>> -- should they negotiate with the rebels and make concessions to
ak>> them

DP> It was impossible to do so because they were and still are under
DP> direct control of Russia. They are just puppets. You do not talk to
DP> puppets.

You are a strange person -- why Ukraine is not under EU control and its puppet, but Donbass is under Moscow control and its puppet. It is a
wrong conception that if some country is an ally of other country it is necessary call it a puppet.

ak>> or may be Ukraine troops some day will be able to cut their
ak>> throats. This winter Ukraine has built up a huge army group in
ak>> Donbass and it was obvious it was going to the latter scenario.

DP> It was obvious that Russia will invade. For Baiden, not for me.
DP> Putin was lying and Baiden ws not.

It's very probably that Putin's plan was ready two month ago before, and Ukraine was perfectly aware of it. It was pretty much time to solve the Donbass problem and prevent the what was going to happen, or at least to
start doing it. In principal the initial building up of military forces
and manoeuvres near Ukrainian border could be considered as a pressure
on Ukraine, and the leakage was possibly controllable.

ak>> No, it is not Putin who started it. Al least, we should say that
ak>> both

DP> Putin annexed Crimea and sent fighters to Eastern Ukraine. That's
DP> the facts.

I said it many times -- Crimea had fallen on Putin's head by itself, it
just had no other choice. Only nationalists in Kiev could be blamed that
a whole Crimea population had done what they done. Putin just sent some
his green men for some help.

Bye, Dmitry!
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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 21.03.2022 11:43

AI>>> Ukrainization?
ak>> Yes. Well, just imagine the bilingual Ukraine before 2014
ak>> and the Russian speaking population of its east and south.
ak>> And one day the power is captured by the people who issued
ak>> the orders that Russian language is not state language any
ak>> more, that at every office, bar,
DP> Russian language was not a state language in Ukraine, please
DP> stop spreading fake information.

I meant a language law called the law "On the principles of the State
language policy" gave the status of regional language to Russian and
other minority languages. It allowed the use of minority languages in
courts, schools and other government institutions in areas of Ukraine
where the national minorities exceed 10% of the population.[3][4] The
law was used mostly in Ukraine's southern and eastern regions, where predominant or significant parts of the population speak Russian as
their first language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine

It was very logical, and it was crazy for nationalists to cancel the
mentioned law in the Russian speaking areas of Ukraine. It was as if
Canadian Quebec would be restricted in using French.

ak>> schools should used Ukrainian. I said it before you that
ak>> Ukraine since
DP> Fake news again, current law allows use of Russian language.

You just don't know what you are speaking about:

-----Beginning of the citation-----
In April 2019, the Ukrainian parliament voted a new law, the Law on
Supporting the Functioning of the Ukrainian Language as the State
Language [uk; ar]. On 16 June 2019, the law entered into force. The law
made the use of Ukrainian compulsory (totally or within certain quotas)
in the work of some public authorities, in the electoral procedures and political campaigning, in pre-school, school and university education,
in scientific, cultural and sporting activities, in book publishing and
book distribution, in printed mass media, television and radio
broadcasting, in economic and social life (commercial advertising,
public events), in hospitals and nursing homes, and in the activities of political parties and other legal entities (e.g. non-governmental organizations) registered in Ukraine.
----- The end of the citation -----

Bye, Dmitry!
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Hello, alexander!

Tuesday March 22 2022 09:16, you wrote to me:

It was not a lie, BTW. All investigation stories tells us that
US made a mistake and it was officially recognized. Putin will
never tell you he was wrong.

It was a Lie, at the Goebbels' level. As for an investigation, yea,

No,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Report_on_Pre-war_Intelligence_on_Iraq

Check this arctile, it has al required information.

BTW, Stalin was the same level liar as Goebbels, I don't see much difference. So you can call any lie as "Stalin's level lie".

maybe in some time in Russia also will be some investigation. ;-)

Russia is already under investigation by International Criminal Court.

War in Virtnam started long before americans were involded and
it wasn't a lie.

The matter is not in the Vietnam war, but in the American invasion and
its false, fabricated pretext.

How it was fabricated? USA was sending aid to support South Vietnam.

It was impossible to do so because they were and still are under
direct control of Russia. They are just puppets. You do not talk
to puppets.

You are a strange person -- why Ukraine is not under EU control and

Because Zlensky is not a EU citizen and has no direct supervisor in any EU's Secret Service.
FSB was on the ground in DNR/LNR since the beginning of this conflict and had direct control over all local officials.
Even names of FSB officers are well known.

Yiu are strange person if you don't know that.

It was obvious that Russia will invade. For Baiden, not for me.
Putin was lying and Baiden ws not.

It's very probably that Putin's plan was ready two month ago before,
and Ukraine was perfectly aware of it. It was pretty much time to

You are just guessing.

The reality is that Putin cannot be trusted. Even by it's citizens.

I said it many times -- Crimea had fallen on Putin's head by itself,

No, it was a military operation, using Russian army.

it just had no other choice. Only nationalists in Kiev could be blamed that a whole Crimea population had done what they done. Putin just
sent some his green men for some help.

He sent Russian forces to cut Crimea from Ukraine, that's the fact.
Do you need videos to refresh your memories? :)

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, alexander!

Tuesday March 22 2022 09:36, you wrote to me:

Russian language was not a state language in Ukraine, please
stop spreading fake information.

I meant a language law called the law "On the principles of the State language policy" gave the status of regional language to Russian and

But it's not a state language.

other minority languages. It allowed the use of minority languages in courts, schools and other government institutions in areas of Ukraine

And remember, not a single language in Russia has such status.

It was very logical, and it was crazy for nationalists to cancel the mentioned law in the Russian speaking areas of Ukraine. It was as if Canadian Quebec would be restricted in using French.

Quebec's status is in Canadian's Constitution, not the same story was with Ukranian constitution - it had nothing about some special status for Donbass.
And do you think if Russian state will issue some bad law it's ok for Turkey to sent troops here?

Fake news again, current law allows use of Russian language.

You just don't know what you are speaking about:

I know because I've been there (in Kiev) and talk to my friends from Ukraine every single day.

In April 2019, the Ukrainian parliament voted a new law, the Law on Supporting the Functioning of the Ukrainian Language as the State
Language [uk; ar]. On 16 June 2019, the law entered into force. The
law made the use of Ukrainian compulsory (totally or within certain quotas) in the work of some public authorities, in the electoral

Yes, it means that you can use Russian language but have to provide the same level of service in Ukranian.
As in Russia right now. The same law.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 21.03.2022 22:52

DP> Hello, alexander!
DP> BTW, Euronews website is now blocked in Russia.

And TV channel also.
Well, in my opinion it is totally incorrect, and I fully agree with Mask
about necessity for absolute freedom of information. Trying to be
objective, however, I can note that actions to block western media are followed the same same actions towards the Russia state media. An
information war in a full scale.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Tuesday March 22 2022 14:28, you wrote to me:

Well, in my opinion it is totally incorrect, and I fully agree with
Mask about necessity for absolute freedom of information. Trying to be

Mask's Starlink is illegal in Russia.

objective, however, I can note that actions to block western media
are followed the same same actions towards the Russia state media. An information war in a full scale.

No, not a single website of Russian media is blocked in USA or Belgium. Plese check you sources before such incorrect posts.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 22.03.2022 13:41

ak>> maybe in some time in Russia also will be some
ak>> investigation.;-)
DP> Russia is already under investigation by International Criminal
DP> Court.

For instance the US, spat at this court long ago.
I have no time to search it in English, so that's a Russian resource and
the Google translator can easily translate it. https://www.rbc.ru/politics/03/10/2018/5bb5020c9a794748f240995e

DP>>> War in Virtnam started long before americans were
DP>>> involded and it wasn't a lie.
ak>> The matter is not in the Vietnam war, but in the American
ak>> invasion and its false, fabricated pretext.
DP> How it was fabricated? USA was sending aid to support South
DP> Vietnam.

They had made a false attack on a American ship and used it as a pretext
to start the war.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 22.03.2022 13:53

ak>> In April 2019, the Ukrainian parliament voted a new law,
ak>> the Law on Supporting the Functioning of the Ukrainian
ak>> Language as the State Language [uk; ar]. On 16 June 2019,
ak>> the law entered into force. The law made the use of
ak>> Ukrainian compulsory (totally or within certain quotas) in
ak>> the work of some public authorities, in the electoral
DP> Yes, it means that you can use Russian language but have to
DP> provide the same level of service in Ukranian. As in Russia
DP> right now. The same law.

Russia is not a bilingual country as Ukraine. It is not applicable to
Russia.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 22.03.2022 14:30

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DP> Hello, alexander!
DP> Tuesday March 22 2022 14:28, you wrote to me:
ak>> Well, in my opinion it is totally incorrect, and I fully
ak>> agree with Mask about necessity for absolute freedom of
ak>> information. Trying to be
DP> Mask's Starlink is illegal in Russia.

Even with Russian internet VPN browsers help to get any information of
the Internet.

ak>> objective, however, I can note that actions to block
ak>> western media are followed the same same actions towards
ak>> the Russia state media. An information war in a full scale.
DP> No, not a single website of Russian media is blocked in USA or
DP> Belgium. Plese check you sources before such incorrect posts.

https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/rt-ban-roku-apple-directv

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Wednesday March 23 2022 10:04, you wrote to me:

Russia is already under investigation by International Criminal
Court.

For instance the US, spat at this court long ago.
I have no time to search it in English, so that's a Russian resource
and the Google translator can easily translate it.

You don't understand: Russia also stopped cooperaton with ICC, but Ukraine is still not.
And that's enough for ICC to start investigation and proceed with trials.

How it was fabricated? USA was sending aid to support South
Vietnam.

They had made a false attack on a American ship and used it as a
pretext to start the war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_incident
North Vietnam started attacks on US ship Maddox, the first attach was real, the second was not, Navy failed to provide correct report and president already decided to start the war.

But it doesn't matter much - North Vietnam was sending military units and weapons to South Vietnam long before that.
From 1957 till 1960 more than 1700 South Vietnamese were assasinated because they had some connection to the State.
Viet Cong was operating in South since 1960 and with only one purpose - to lead a war against South and US.

That's why this war started, not because of some ship shooting.
Sure, US is not a nice guy, but this war had purpose and pretext.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, alexander!

Wednesday March 23 2022 10:06, you wrote to me:

Yes, it means that you can use Russian language but have to
provide the same level of service in Ukranian. As in Russia
right now. The same law.

Russia is not a bilingual country as Ukraine. It is not applicable to Russia.

Some regions of Russia are bilingual (in some of them Russians are minority) but language laws in Russia are very strict.
Russian is the only approved language for any official communications.

Our "Gosuslugi" (E-Government) portal is only in Russian, and the only other language for offical State websites - is English.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hello, alexander!

Wednesday March 23 2022 10:23, you wrote to me:

Mask's Starlink is illegal in Russia.

Even with Russian internet VPN browsers help to get any information of
the Internet.

It's very easy to ban most of the VPNs, the process is already going on.

objective, however, I can note that actions to block
western media are followed the same same actions towards
the Russia state media. An information war in a full scale.

No, not a single website of Russian media is blocked in USA or
Belgium. Plese check you sources before such incorrect posts.

https://www.protocol.com/entertainment/rt-ban-roku-apple-directv

Those are private companies, they are not required to provide service to anyone.
You can still access RT's IP addresses from abroad, so you can open their site, no DPI used in USA to block access to Russian resources.
Anyone can open RuTube and watch any propaganda channel there. Or use Vk.com to read Russian propaganda.



Best regards,
dp.

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Hi, Dmitry Protasoff!
I read your message from 23.03.2022 11:22

DP>>> Yes, it means that you can use Russian language but
DP>>> have to provide the same level of service in Ukranian.
DP>>> As in Russia right now. The same law.
ak>> Russia is not a bilingual country as Ukraine. It is not
ak>> applicable to Russia.
DP> Some regions of Russia are bilingual (in some of them Russians
DP> are minority) but language laws in Russia are very strict.
DP> Russian is the only approved language for any official
DP> communications.

Problems are differ from each other by their scale. Small problems
nobody notice.

Bye, Dmitry!
Alexander Koryagin
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Hello, alexander!

Thursday March 24 2022 14:39, you wrote to me:

Some regions of Russia are bilingual (in some of them Russians
are minority) but language laws in Russia are very strict.
Russian is the only approved language for any official
communications.

Problems are differ from each other by their scale. Small problems
nobody notice.

It's very difficult protest about almost anything State related in Russia because you'll be jailed or punished by some way.
But for some people it's ok not to notice that.

Best regards,
dp.

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Hi, Alan Ianson!
I read your message from 22.03.2022 08:45

ak>> Not knowing it it is impossible to do adequate conclusions. The
ak>> Donbass siege (the core of the events) has been lasting for 8
ak>> years and wonderfully there was no place for it in western media.
ak>> To be exactly, it repeated everything that Kiev claimed. Nobody
ak>> paid attention to 14 thousand people killed in Donbass by
ak>> Ukrainian troops etc. In short it was and is a very serious
ak>> problem, and people of Donbass have suffered greatly.

AI> The Donbass siege was carried out by Russia.

Just no words and comments. ;-)

Bye, Alan!
Alexander Koryagin
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