• Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)

    From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Dave Drum on Fri Jan 17 11:51:44 2025
    Re: Re: Participation
    By: Dave Drum to Ben Collver on Fri Jan 17 2025 08:38:38

    Just very minor repairs on older stuff. I don't have the tools nor the eyesight to deal with "wave soldered, surface mount components.

    I have never had the nerve to work on surface mount stuff. I chatted
    with someone on IRC who baked a motherboard in a conventional oven and
    then basically used a microscope to replace an SMT component. It was a success! But it didn't look pretty.

    Oh, I still red-neck things from time to time. But mostly, at 82, I'm Dunno. Me and church aren't well acquainted these days. Here at the
    house I've got Bluetooth speakers that I send my music to so I'm all
    jazzed up everywhere in nthe house. Bv)=

    Re-reading the schematics, this radio only does AM and shortwave, which
    rules out the "church" transmitters. Here's a photo of the radio:

    https://www.radiomuseum.org/r/general_el_j105.html

    I read that after they sit in the attic for decades they commonly need
    some TLC, capacitors replaced, etc. Definitely not as practical as
    your BT speaker setup. :)

    While searching for an AM transmitter i found some fun comments on hackaday.com:

    "As to why anyone ... would want to listen to an old radio, it is just
    one of those things. Same reason as people drive antique cars, it is
    nostalgia. We fix them and use them. ... the same could be said for
    cooking. Why bother when you can bring home takeout?"

    "Quickest way to transmit analogue TV signals short range is simply to
    connect a regular antena amplifier to the RF out of say an old VCR,
    perhaps having a CCTV camera attached via s-video for example. Most
    will even allow you to set the RF channel. It will be able to be
    received by an analogue TV in the vicinity with reasonable picture
    quality."

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup
    Categories: Microwave, Soups/stews
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 c Strawberries; sliced,
    - plus extra for garnish
    2 tb Brandy
    1 c Sour cream
    1/2 ts Vanilla extract
    1 c Half and half
    Mint sprigs; for garnish
    1/4 c Sugar

    Blend strawberries, sour cream, half and half, sugar, brandy, and
    vanilla until smooth, about 30 to 45 seconds. Serve in chilled. and
    garnish with sliced strawberries and mint sprigs.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sat Jan 18 13:23:18 2025
    Hi Ben,

    Re-reading the schematics, this radio only does AM and shortwave,
    which rules out the "church" transmitters. Here's a photo of the
    radio:

    Ou church did that during the summer and fall of 2020. During the
    initial lock down, we had just 10 people in the building (pastor,
    musicians and techies plus me--married to one of the tech guys). We
    linked into facebook. Then we moved outside for about 3 months, never
    had rain during service (a couple of times soon after it ended). We
    continued linking into f'book plus did the low power transmission into
    car radios. I "attended" that way several times. In the fall, when we
    moved back inside, we continued the linking into f'book--very convenient
    when we were travelling as we could link into our home church service
    and keep up with the sermon series, what events were cominug up, etc.
    The last few months tho, we've been working on a merger with another congregation and AFAIK, they don't broadcast/link in their service
    anywhere.


    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup
    Categories: Microwave, Soups/stews
    Yield: 6 Servings

    How did "bluenose" get into the title? I don't see anywhere where it
    would be related to what is in it except maybe the brandy--something
    only affordable to the upper classes? Srawberry season will be coming in
    a few months; I'll consider making this, leaving out the brandy.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jan 20 10:09:15 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Jan 18 2025 13:23:18

    I "attended" that way several times. In the fall, when we
    The last few months tho, we've been working on a merger with another congregation and AFAIK, they don't broadcast/link in their service anywhere.

    How'd drive-in style service treat you?

    I used to attend a spiritual community in Eugene that gave dharma talks.
    During COVID they set up cameras and a large screen so that others
    could attend over the Internet. It was a huge success for the community
    and they grew in size.

    However, i couldn't adjust to it. I did not like being on camera. For community, meditation, philosophy, song, etc. i strongly prefer it to be
    a small, in-person group. For me, the Internet sucks the joy out of
    that stuff.

    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup

    How did "bluenose" get into the title? I don't see anywhere where it
    would be related to what is in it except maybe the brandy--something
    only affordable to the upper classes? Srawberry season will be coming in
    a few months; I'll consider making this, leaving out the brandy.

    Dave asked the same thing, and the best i could come up with was the
    following theory:

    The recipe came from a cookbook titled The Strawberry Connection and it was
    in a series of cookbooks that began with The Blueberry Connection. My
    guess is that it began as a blueberry recipe and was adapted for
    strawberries.

    <https://nimbus.ca/store/blueberry-connection.html>


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Date Pudding
    Categories: Puddings
    Yield: 1 Pudding

    1 1/2 c Dates; pitted
    1/2 c Milk
    1 c Nuts; chopped
    1 c Sugar
    3 Eggs
    1 c Flour
    2 tb Butter
    1 ts Banilla
    1 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Salt

    Mix the butter and sugar and add the beaten eggs and milk. Sift the
    dry ingredients and add them to the liquid mixture, reserving enough
    flour to coat the dates and nuts. Add them and the vanilla. Bake in a
    shallow greased pan in a very slow oven (250°F) for 1 hour and 45
    minutes, until set in the center. Cut in squares and serve with
    whipped cream.

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1976

    Recipe FROM: <https://gutenberg.org/ebooks/65379>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 21 12:27:04 2025
    Hi Ben,

    I "attended" that way several times. In the fall, when we
    The last few months tho, we've been working on a merger with another congregation and AFAIK, they don't broadcast/link in their service anywhere.

    How'd drive-in style service treat you?

    I'd rather have been out on the lawn with the other people. (G) At the
    time I was fighting bronchitis and thought it best not to be around
    other people. BTW, found out that the church we're merging with does a broadcast link with f'book so we can keep up with services while
    travelling.


    I used to attend a spiritual community in Eugene that gave dharma
    talks. During COVID they set up cameras and a large screen so that
    others
    could attend over the Internet. It was a huge success for the
    community and they grew in size.

    However, i couldn't adjust to it. I did not like being on camera.
    For community, meditation, philosophy, song, etc. i strongly prefer it
    to be a small, in-person group. For me, the Internet sucks the joy
    out of
    that stuff.

    I can understand, the personal interaction is important. We went from a congregation of about 30 to one of 100+/- so we're trying to learn a lot
    of new names/faces and figure out where we can fit in with the new organisation. Found that their music preference is LOUD so we've been
    sitting in the overflow room to cut the volume level somewhat.


    Title: Bluenose Strawberry Soup

    How did "bluenose" get into the title? I don't see anywhere where it
    would be related to what is in it except maybe the brandy--something
    only affordable to the upper classes? Srawberry season will be coming in
    a few months; I'll consider making this, leaving out the brandy.

    Dave asked the same thing, and the best i could come up with was the following theory:

    The recipe came from a cookbook titled The Strawberry Connection and
    it was in a series of cookbooks that began with The Blueberry
    Connection. My
    guess is that it began as a blueberry recipe and was adapted for strawberries.

    Sounds logical to me. What other fruits are in the series? Peach would
    be a good one.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Jan 23 10:24:59 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 21 2025 12:27:04

    Found that their music preference is LOUD so we've been
    sitting in the overflow room to cut the volume level somewhat.

    Sound volume preferences are also a challenge. I used to attend an
    ecstatic dance in Eugene. When i started, they played a lot of world
    music. Then after a DJ change, they played a lot of soulless EDM,
    raised the volume about 400%, raised the admission fee, and started
    selling earplugs at the entrance. Ironically i am hard of earing but
    the sound volume was painful for me. No thanks!

    Sounds logical to me. What other fruits are in the series? Peach would
    be a good one.

    Unfortunately, i could not find The Peach Connection.

    From: <https://nimbus.ca/book-author/beatrice-buszek>

    The Apple Connection
    The Blueberry Connection
    The Strawberry Connection
    The Sugar Bush Connection (Maple Syrup)

    And here's a sweet recipe for you...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Yogurt Honey Cream Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    4 1/2 ts Unflavored gelatin
    1/2 c Water
    3 c Strawberry; lemon, vanilla,
    - or apricot yogurt
    1/2 c Honey
    1 ds Salt
    Food coloring (optional)
    1 1/2 c Heavy cream; whipped

    MMMMM--------------------TOASTY OAT PIE CRUST-------------------------
    1 c Oats; uncooked
    1/3 c Nuts; finely chopped
    1/3 c Brown sugar; firmly packed
    3 tb Butter; up to 4 tb, melted
    1/2 ts Cinnamon

    Toasty Oat Pie Crust:

    Combine all crust ingredients; mix well. Press onto bottom and sides
    of very lightly oiled 9" pie plate. Bake in preheated moderate oven
    (375°F) for 8 to 10 minutes or until golden brown. Chill.

    Variation:

    Substitute 1/3 c uncooked quick oats, wheat germ, or unprocessed bran
    for nuts.

    Filling:

    Soften gelatin in water; stir over low heat until dissolved. Combine
    yogurt, honey, salt, and food coloring, mixing until well blended.
    Gradually add dissolved gelatin; mix well. Chill about 15 minutes or
    until slightly thickened. Fold in whipped cream. Chill 45 minutes or
    until mixture mounds when dropped from spoon; mound into Toasty Oat
    Crust. Chill 4 hours or until firm.

    Recipe by Quaker Oats Wholegrain Cookbook

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Fri Jan 24 14:16:21 2025
    Hi Ben,


    Found that their music preference is LOUD so we've been
    sitting in the overflow room to cut the volume level somewhat.

    Sound volume preferences are also a challenge. I used to attend an ecstatic dance in Eugene. When i started, they played a lot of world

    Are you based in Oregon? That, and North Dakota are the only 2 states
    I've yet to visit. One of these days I'll get to them.

    music. Then after a DJ change, they played a lot of soulless EDM,
    raised the volume about 400%, raised the admission fee, and started selling earplugs at the entrance. Ironically i am hard of earing but
    the sound volume was painful for me. No thanks!

    Sounds like all good reasons to stop going to that event. The church
    that ours is merging with has a lot of young families and young singles;
    we are old enough to be parents and grandparents of most of them, great grandparents to their children. Steve has a partial hearing loss and
    tinnitus from his time in the Army but the music is painfully loud,
    even for him.

    Sounds logical to me. What other fruits are in the series? Peach
    would RH> be a good one.

    Unfortunately, i could not find The Peach Connection.

    From: <https://nimbus.ca/book-author/beatrice-buszek>

    The Apple Connection
    The Blueberry Connection
    The Strawberry Connection
    The Sugar Bush Connection (Maple Syrup)

    The last one sounds extra good. (G) I was raised on NY State maple syrup
    and it was all we bought after getting married. I had to convert Steve
    but it wasn't a hard job. Back in 2015 we made our first of now 6
    mission trips with our church to Vermont and, since we were very low on
    syrup, bought some up there. We've continued getting it there on
    subsequent trips, don't know how the merger will affect that. We were
    also introduced to maple creemees, a Vermont specialty where maple syrup
    is blended with soft serve ice cream, decadent but yummy.

    And here's a sweet recipe for you...

    Title: Yogurt Honey Cream Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    It does look good. The toasted oat crust is something I've never tried
    but may, with something like this instead of a graham cracker crust.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Jan 25 11:26:16 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Fri Jan 24 2025 14:16:21

    Hi Ruth,

    Are you based in Oregon? That, and North Dakota are the only 2 states
    I've yet to visit. One of these days I'll get to them.

    Yes, i am based in Oregon. I would be game for meeting up if you make it
    out here.

    We were
    also introduced to maple creemees, a Vermont specialty where maple syrup
    is blended with soft serve ice cream, decadent but yummy.

    I've seen articles about Canada's strategic Maple Syrup Reserve, and
    sometimes i have difficulty telling whether they are serious. ;)

    I'd love to try a maple creemee some day. I've had family and friends with
    ice cream makers, but i've never tried my hand at making it myself. I read that it can be easy to do using a mason jar in the freezer.

    Here's another sweet recipe. We have a seasonal treat made in Washington called Applets and Cotlets. It is basically the same thing referred to in
    The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe (Narnia Book 1) as Turkish Delight.
    If it were me, i'd skip the coloring and add some fruit juice, preserves,
    etc.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Turkish Paste (Turkish Delight)
    Categories: Candy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    3 tb Gelatin
    1/2 c Water; cold
    1 lb Sugar
    1/2 c Water; hot
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 tb Lemon juice
    Green coloring
    Mint flavoring
    1 c Nuts; finely chopped

    Soften the gelatin in the cold water for 5 minutes. Bring the hot
    water and sugar to the boiling point. Add the salt and gelatin, stir
    until the gelatin has dissolved, and simmer for 20 minutes. Remove
    from the fire and when cool add the lemon juice, coloring, and mint
    flavoring. Stir in the nuts and allow the mixture to stand until it
    begins to thicken. Stir again before pouring into a wet pan and have
    the layer of paste about 1" thick. Let stand overnight in a cool
    place.

    Moisten a sharp knife in boiling water, cut the candy in cubes, and
    roll in powdered sugar.

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

    Recipe FROM: <https://archive.org/details/auntsammysradior1931unit>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sun Jan 26 19:12:10 2025
    Hi Ben,

    Are you based in Oregon? That, and North Dakota are the only 2 states
    I've yet to visit. One of these days I'll get to them.

    Yes, i am based in Oregon. I would be game for meeting up if you make
    it out here.

    One of these days, we just might make it. Oregon is one of the states
    our daughter in AZ has mentioned she might want to move to, now that
    she's retired from active duty with the National Guard. She has 2 boys,
    one on the autism spectrum and she mentioned that the state is good for education. Don't know what she was basing that on but.......


    We were
    also introduced to maple creemees, a Vermont specialty where maple syrup
    is blended with soft serve ice cream, decadent but yummy.

    I've seen articles about Canada's strategic Maple Syrup Reserve, and sometimes i have difficulty telling whether they are serious. ;)

    It's hard to tell, something like that may actully exsist or some
    Canadians are just pulling our leg.


    I'd love to try a maple creemee some day. I've had family and friends with ice cream makers, but i've never tried my hand at making it
    myself. I read that it can be easy to do using a mason jar in the freezer.

    We found that not all parts of Vermont do the creemees. Several years
    ago we were camping near Manchester, finally found a stand that served
    us some soft serve ice cream with maple syrup poured over it. Not quite
    the same but close enough for that night. A couple of days later, we
    moved up to Washington, and knew we could get (and did) creemees in
    Barre, about 15 minutes away.

    Here's another sweet recipe. We have a seasonal treat made in BC>
    Washington called Applets and Cotlets. It is basically the same thing
    referred to in The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe (Narnia Book
    1) BC> as Turkish Delight. If it were me, i'd skip the coloring and add
    some BC> fruit juice, preserves, etc.

    OK, I'd wondered, when I read the book, what Turkish Delight was. I was thinking that it might be something like the old candy, Turkish Taffy.
    I'd skip the artificial coloring, and maybe try it with raw sugar as we
    don't keep refined sugar in the house.

    Title: Turkish Paste (Turkish Delight)
    Categories: Candy
    Yield: 1 Batch

    3 tb Gelatin
    1/2 c Water; cold
    1 lb Sugar
    1/2 c Water; hot
    1/4 ts Salt
    3 tb Lemon juice
    Green coloring
    Mint flavoring
    1 c Nuts; finely chopped

    Can I leave the nuts out? I like some nuts, but don't really like nuts
    in most foods.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Mon Jan 27 11:27:33 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sun Jan 26 2025 19:12:10

    One of these days, we just might make it. Oregon is one of the states
    our daughter in AZ has mentioned she might want to move to, now that
    she's retired from active duty with the National Guard. She has 2 boys,
    one on the autism spectrum and she mentioned that the state is good for education. Don't know what she was basing that on but...

    From my perspective my educational experience was good, but my friend's
    kids in Eugene had even better, going to charter schools, until the
    Covid thing. Abruptly shifting to distance learning was hard on them,
    and i personally think that folks aren't aware just how harmful that
    was. I don't know about autism, but a friend of a friend is a teacher in Seattle, and she said that nearly 100% of her students have a diagnosis
    of some kind, autism, A.D.D., depression, etc. and that most of them are
    on a prescription of some kind. Some things are better, like classes
    teaching about communication, emotional intelligence, and interpersonal
    skils (wish *I* had learned those as a kid), and some things are far
    worse.

    We found that not all parts of Vermont do the creemees. Several years
    ago we were camping near Manchester, finally found a stand that served
    us some soft serve ice cream with maple syrup poured over it. Not quite
    the same but close enough for that night. A couple of days later, we
    moved up to Washington, and knew we could get (and did) creemees in
    Barre, about 15 minutes away.

    Maple syrup poured on soft-serve icecream reminds me of Laura Ingalls
    book Little House In The Woods where they poured maple syrup on the snow
    to harden it into a frozen candy. I'd eat that. :9

    OK, I'd wondered, when I read the book, what Turkish Delight was. I was thinking that it might be something like the old candy, Turkish Taffy.
    I'd skip the artificial coloring, and maybe try it with raw sugar as we don't keep refined sugar in the house.
    Can I leave the nuts out? I like some nuts, but don't really like nuts
    in most foods.

    Yes you can leave out the nuts. Aplets and cotlets always have nuts, but
    i've had other varieties that are nutless.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cider Gelatin Salad
    Categories: Jello, Salads
    Yield: 1 Salad

    2 1/2 c Clear cider
    2 tb Gelatin
    1/2 c Celery; finely chopped
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 tb Parsley or green pepper;
    - finely chopped
    2 tb Pimiento; finely chopped

    Soak the gelatin in onchalf cup of the cold cider. Heat the remainder
    of the cider to the boiling point, pour into the gelatin, stir until
    dissolved, drain, and chill. When the gelatin mixture begins to set,
    stir in the vegetables and salt, and pour into individual molds,
    which have been rinsed in cold water. When set turn out on lettuce
    leaves and serve with French or mayonnaise dressing.

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

    Recipe FROM: <https://archive.org/details/auntsammysradior1931unit>

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 28 12:26:34 2025
    Hi Ben,

    One of these days, we just might make it. Oregon is one of the states
    our daughter in AZ has mentioned she might want to move to, now that
    she's retired from active duty with the National Guard. She has 2 boys,
    one on the autism spectrum and she mentioned that the state is good for education. Don't know what she was basing that on but...

    From my perspective my educational experience was good, but my
    friend's kids in Eugene had even better, going to charter schools,
    until the
    Covid thing. Abruptly shifting to distance learning was hard on them,
    and i personally think that folks aren't aware just how harmful that

    Covid threw a major curve ball at a lot of kids. Here in NC a lot of
    kids were distant learning via cell phone; we donated several net books,
    note books and other small computers to a local drive--helped clean out
    some of our unused stuff. Steve put a basic internet program on each of
    them before donating. One down side, a lot of school systems are now
    calling snow days "remote learning", taking away the fun of an
    unexpected day off to play in the snow.

    was. I don't know about autism, but a friend of a friend is a teacher
    in Seattle, and she said that nearly 100% of her students have a
    diagnosis of some kind, autism, A.D.D., depression, etc. and that most
    of them are on a prescription of some kind. Some things are better,
    like classes
    teaching about communication, emotional intelligence, and
    interpersonal skils (wish *I* had learned those as a kid), and some
    things are far worse.

    Seems now more kids have learning labels now than when we were growing
    up. Our older daughter is a teacher in a private chain (Challenger, I
    know they have schools in Oregon). When she was taking her education
    classes, she had to learn about how to develop Individual Education
    Plans (IEPs) for students. She taught public school for several years
    and had to implement them, something that our teachers never knew about,
    all kids learned the same thing, altho some were a bit slower on the
    "uptake". There was "special ed." for those kids that had obvious
    learning challenges but most kids were mainstreamed.

    We found that not all parts of Vermont do the creemees. Several
    years RH> ago we were camping near Manchester, finally found a stand
    that served RH> us some soft serve ice cream with maple syrup poured
    over it. Not quite RH> the same but close enough for that night. A
    couple of days later, we RH> moved up to Washington, and knew we could
    get (and did) creemees in RH> Barre, about 15 minutes away.

    Maple syrup poured on soft-serve icecream reminds me of Laura Ingalls
    book Little House In The Woods where they poured maple syrup on the
    snow to harden it into a frozen candy. I'd eat that. :9

    That's known by different names, Jack's Wax is the name I learned for
    it. You have to boil the syrup down to a concentrate for it to work. One
    of my friends in college made it one year; I think she boiled the syrup
    down to maybe a third of what she started out with--IOW, a gallon was
    boiled into just a bit over a quart.

    There's also snow ice cream where eggs, sugar and milk are stirred
    together, then snow is stirred into that mix. Never had any of that.

    OK, I'd wondered, when I read the book, what Turkish Delight was. I
    was RH> thinking that it might be something like the old candy, Turkish
    Taffy. RH> I'd skip the artificial coloring, and maybe try it with raw
    sugar as we RH> don't keep refined sugar in the house. RH> Can I leave
    the nuts out? I like some nuts, but don't really like nuts RH> in most
    foods.

    Yes you can leave out the nuts. Aplets and cotlets always have nuts,
    but i've had other varieties that are nutless.

    Sometimes you feel like a nut..................

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Wed Jan 29 10:24:49 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Tue Jan 28 2025 12:26:34

    ... we donated several net books,
    note books and other small computers to a local drive--helped clean out some of our unused stuff. Steve put a basic internet program on each of them before donating.

    How cool is that! I like reading about old equipment being put to use.

    Here's a link to an article that was posted in FSXNET.

    <https://orato.world/2024/11/25/cybercirujas-bridges-digital- divide-empowers-underserved-communities-with-refurbished-computers/>

    That's known by different names, Jack's Wax is the name I learned for
    it. You have to boil the syrup down to a concentrate for it to work. One
    of my friends in college made it one year; I think she boiled the syrup down to maybe a third of what she started out with--IOW, a gallon was boiled into just a bit over a quart.

    Thanks! I'll file that away in my memory banks for later.

    Sometimes you feel like a nut...

    Hey i remember watching that jingle on broadcast TV when i was a kid...

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.04

    Title: Homemade Mounds Bars
    Categories: Candy, Copycat
    Yield: 1 Batch

    5 oz Sweetened condensed milk
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 c Powdered sugar
    14 oz Flaked coconut
    24 oz Semisweet chocolate chips

    Blend the milk and the vanilla. Add the sugar a little at a time
    until smooth. Stir in the coconut. The mixture should be firm. Pat
    firmly into a 9x13" pan and chill until firm. Cut into bars and dip
    into melted chocolate and let cool on waxed paper for several hours.

    Recipe by cilee@alaska.net

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Thu Jan 30 13:39:58 2025
    Hi Ben,


    ... we donated several net books,
    note books and other small computers to a local drive--helped clean out some of our unused stuff. Steve put a basic internet program on each of them before donating.

    How cool is that! I like reading about old equipment being put to
    use.

    And it cleared some unused but still good stuff out of our house. Last
    night I heard Steve talking about Commodore 64 computers with someone on
    line. We had one for 10 years, rehomed it about 4 years after we
    upgraded to PCs and had orders to move. We had to make a weight
    allowance so rehoming anything like that, that was not being used,
    helped us meet it. Anyway, Steve and the other guy were commiserating
    with each other about getting rid of the C-64, sort of wishing they
    still had them. I don't know if we still have the emulator program that
    we had at one time.


    That's known by different names, Jack's Wax is the name I learned for
    it. You have to boil the syrup down to a concentrate for it to work. One
    of my friends in college made it one year; I think she boiled the syrup down to maybe a third of what she started out with--IOW, a gallon was boiled into just a bit over a quart.

    Thanks! I'll file that away in my memory banks for later.

    For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple syrup
    on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to harvest. Enough
    to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)


    Sometimes you feel like a nut...

    Hey i remember watching that jingle on broadcast TV when i was a
    kid...

    I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only one channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no antenna, just
    a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels. When I came home
    from college for Easter break, my folks had tied into the NYC cable,
    with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond Joy and Mounds were in
    the days when we got just 2 channels.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Jan 31 10:41:33 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Thu Jan 30 2025 13:39:58

    And it cleared some unused but still good stuff out of our house. Last night I heard Steve talking about Commodore 64 computers with someone on line. We had one for 10 years, rehomed it about 4 years after we
    upgraded to PCs and had orders to move. We had to make a weight
    allowance so rehoming anything like that, that was not being used,
    helped us meet it. Anyway, Steve and the other guy were commiserating
    with each other about getting rid of the C-64, sort of wishing they
    still had them. I don't know if we still have the emulator program that
    we had at one time.

    I know an online musician who runs special software to operate the C=64 as
    a synthesizer. You can see screenshots in the first few pages of the user manuals.

    <https://mssiah.com/files/MSSIAH_MonoSynthesizer.pdf>

    <https://mssiah.com/files/MSSIAH_Bassline.pdf>

    If i were going to emulate a C=64, i'd probably go with VICE.

    <https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/>

    I remember loading arcade games from cassette tape onto a VIC-20. I also remember two friends playing games on a C=64, and i didn't get as much
    screen time on the C=64 as on the VIC-20. One friend had a floppy drive
    and the other was using cassette tape only. But he was given a HUGE set
    of cassette tapes. Whoever owned that C=64 before him collected a lot!

    For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple syrup
    on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to harvest. Enough
    to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

    Exactly. So far this winter we had a dusting of snow one day. I happened
    to bicycle through it to a dentist appointment. Sadly for that dentist's business there was not enough snow to make candy in.

    I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only one channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no antenna, just
    a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels. When I came home from college for Easter break, my folks had tied into the NYC cable,
    with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond Joy and Mounds were in
    the days when we got just 2 channels.

    When i was a kid, my parents went without a TV because they thought it was
    a bad influence. But we brought a TV in the house for that VIC-20, and
    slowly began to use it as a TV too. I personally think it was good for me
    to have had limited exposure to media, but i didn't see it that way when i
    was a kid. :-)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: TV Cookies
    Categories: Cookies
    Yield: 1 Batch

    1 c Shortening
    1 c Sugar
    1 c Brown sugar
    2 Eggs; beaten
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 c Flour; sifted
    1 ts Soda
    1/2 ts Baking powder
    1/2 ts Salt
    2 c Quick oatmeal
    2 c Rice Krispies
    1 c Coconut
    1/2 c Nuts

    Cream together shortening and sugars. Add eggs, vanilla, flour, soda,
    baking powder, and salt. Add cereals, coconut, and nuts. Blend and
    drop by spoonfuls on cookie sheet and bake at 350°F.

    Recipe by Randy Rigg

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Sat Feb 1 13:32:27 2025
    Hi Ben,


    And it cleared some unused but still good stuff out of our house. Last night I heard Steve talking about Commodore 64 computers with someone on line. We had one for 10 years, rehomed it about 4 years after we
    upgraded to PCs and had orders to move. We had to make a weight
    allowance so rehoming anything like that, that was not being used,
    helped us meet it. Anyway, Steve and the other guy were commiserating
    with each other about getting rid of the C-64, sort of wishing they
    still had them. I don't know if we still have the emulator program that
    we had at one time.

    I know an online musician who runs special software to operate the
    C=64 as a synthesizer. You can see screenshots in the first few pages
    of the user manuals.

    Still some life left in the old system. Back around 1985 my parents were visiting us at Fort Hood, TX. Dad had started a computer based services (bookkeeping, payroll, etc) business the year before. I know he was
    using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
    started around 1979 with a TS-80. He was quite impressed with what the
    C-64 could do--but not enough to go out and buy one.


    If i were going to emulate a C=64, i'd probably go with VICE.

    <https://vice-emu.sourceforge.io/>

    I've no idea what Steve uses as I do nothing that requires a C-64 or
    emulator.

    I remember loading arcade games from cassette tape onto a VIC-20. I
    also remember two friends playing games on a C=64, and i didn't get as much
    screen time on the C=64 as on the VIC-20. One friend had a floppy
    drive and the other was using cassette tape only. But he was given a
    HUGE set of cassette tapes. Whoever owned that C=64 before him
    collected a lot!

    Steve started out with the datasette, typing in programs from "Compute's Gazette" and other magazines. It was a cost saver, an Army SPC4 pay
    meant we still had to watch our spending. The computer (and a microwave
    oven) came from our tax refunds. After a 3 month temporary duty (TDY) in Germany in early 1985, he was able to buy the floppy drive. IIRC, he
    bought his first monitor about that time, after starting out using our
    one and only tv.

    For the next time you get significant (clean) snow and have maple
    syrup RH> on hand? We had 1.25" of snow last week, not enough to
    harvest. Enough RH> to shut down the area for a couple of days tho. (G)

    Exactly. So far this winter we had a dusting of snow one day. I
    happened to bicycle through it to a dentist appointment. Sadly for
    that dentist's business there was not enough snow to make candy in.

    We're in the beginning days of a warm spell (60s and low 70s) but it
    looks like it'll be cooling off again in about 10 days. Not enough for
    snow before my next dental visit tho, can't make Jack's Wax to "gum up"
    my teeth before seeing him.

    I remember it too. We got our first TV when I was in 4th grade, only
    one RH> channel. A few years later my dad reworked the lead in (no
    antenna, just RH> a wire from the main line) wire and we got 2 channels.
    When I came home RH> from college for Easter break, my folks had tied
    into the NYC cable, RH> with one local channel. IIRC, the ads for Almond
    Joy and Mounds were in RH> the days when we got just 2 channels.

    When i was a kid, my parents went without a TV because they thought it
    was a bad influence. But we brought a TV in the house for that
    VIC-20, and slowly began to use it as a TV too. I personally think it
    was good for me to have had limited exposure to media, but i didn't
    see it that way when i was a kid. :-)

    My parents had one the first year we were married, then gave it to my
    mom's family when they (mom & dad) moved to an area where they couldn't
    get any sort of reception. That was the set they (grandparents) gave
    back to us when they got their first color set. It was only black and
    white but I can remember seeing ads for Shake and Bake, M&Ms (plain,
    peanut and almond [!]), Almond Joy (and Mounds), etc as well as the ad
    for Alka-Seltzer, featuring people poking other's bellies, with the tag
    line "no matter what shape your stomach is in, Alka Seltzer will make it
    feel better" (not sure on the last phrase).


    Title: TV Cookies
    Categories: Cookies
    Yield: 1 Batch

    Would be interesting to know the origin of that name.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Not all questions worth asking have answers...

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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Sun Feb 2 09:33:20 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Sat Feb 01 2025 13:32:27

    visiting us at Fort Hood, TX. Dad had started a computer based services (bookkeeping, payroll, etc) business the year before. I know he was
    using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
    started around 1979 with a TS-80.

    I remember using a TRS-80 in my school library. By that time it was the
    lowest spec'ed computer in the entire school. I guess i was into retro
    from the get-go.

    Would be interesting to know the origin of that name.

    Unfortunately my search-fu was not strong enough to discover the origin
    of this recipe, although i can write that it was posted by Randy Rigg in December, 1995.

    On the topic of kitchen equipment motherboard repair, here is a post
    about burning alcohol to fix an iBook back in 2007.

    <http://www.geektechnique.org/projectlab/726/ diy-obsolete-ibook-logic-board-repair.html>

    And an obligatory radio recipe...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Steamed Apricot Pudding
    Categories: Puddings
    Yield: 1 Pudding

    1/2 lb Dried apricots
    1 1/2 c Soft wheat flour; sifted
    1/4 c Butter or other fat
    1/2 c Sugar
    2 Eggs
    2 ts Baking powder
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/2 c Milk

    Wash the apricots, chop fine, and mix with 2 tb of the flour. Sift the
    remaining flour with the baking powder and salt. Cream the fat, add
    the sugar, and well-beaten eggs, and add alternately with the milk to
    the sifted dry ingredients. Stir in the apricots. Pour into a greased
    mold, cover, and steam for 2 hours. Serve hot with hard sauce.

    Recipe by Aunt Sammy's Radio Recipes 1931

    Recipe FROM: <https://archive.org/details/auntsammysradior1931unit>

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Feb 4 18:56:43 2025
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Ben Collver <=-

    A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

    Q: What do you call a drunk amateur radio operator?
    A: Ham on rye.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Crockpot Chicken and Noodles
    Categories: Crockpot, Chicken, Main dishes
    Yield: 1 Servings

    2 Stalks celery; cut up
    2 Carrots; cut up
    1 lg Onion; sliced
    2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Pepper
    1 ts Dried basil
    4 c Uncooked noodles
    1 Chicken; cut up

    Place the veggies on the bottom of the pot, put the chicken on
    top, followed by the seasonings. Pour 3 cups of water over. Set it
    on low and cook for 8-10 hrs. Take chicken out (carefully, because
    it will come off the bones) and put noodles in the broth, turning it
    up to high. Let the noodles cook for 45 min., while you take the meat
    off the bones. Mix the me in. This is like a very thick chicken soup
    and the basil makes this delicious!

    Posted to Master Cook Recipes List, Digest #110

    Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 01:03:07 -0400

    From: Lestat6663@aol.com

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

    ... I ordered a chicken and an egg from Amazon. I'll let you know.
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Wed Feb 5 19:34:23 2025
    Hi Ben,

    Hi Ruth,

    It was the latest and greatest when it came out. Complete with a
    game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family
    computer?

    I remember seeing an electronic Pong machine at a yard sale. They had
    it hooked up to a TV, so i played it with a friend. So i can write
    that i actually experienced that bit of history.

    We played it a couple of times at my parent's house. I think our
    daughters all time favorites were "Cave of the Word Wizard" (a spelling
    game) and "Where in the World is Carmen San Diego". Both of these were
    for the C-64; the sound effects on the Word Wizard were really
    outstanding.

    We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together from various places--

    I've built my share of Frankenpooters. The best thing is getting a
    highly functional computer for a low cost. The worst thing i remember
    off the cuff is using OEM motherboards with non-standard, cost-cutting design decisions and limited availability of documentation and
    drivers.

    A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

    Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

    Here's a recipe for Granola Pie, which strikes me as ecclectic.


    Title: Granola Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    I'd have to sub something else for the brandy. However, the crust would
    be really good for something like a pecan pie; I'll have to keep it in
    mind next time I make one.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Behind every good computer - is a jumble of cables!

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Wed Feb 5 19:43:39 2025
    Hi Sean,


    A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

    Q: What do you call a drunk amateur radio operator?
    A: Ham on rye.

    That wouldn't happen at our house. We have a small amount (Maybe one
    pint) of boxed red and white to use in cooking. Last time I made beef
    stew, I put in a couple of "glugs" of red--didm't taste it in the stew
    but it added a nice flavor. Usually I add just one "glug"; this time it
    came out a bit faster and I got 2. (G)

    BTW, when you referred to tthe University of Arizona to Ben, did you
    mean Tucson?

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Generic, non-offensive, non-funny tagline... boring, eh?

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 3 15:53:31 2025
    Hi Ben,

    visiting us at Fort Hood, TX. Dad had started a computer based services (bookkeeping, payroll, etc) business the year before. I know he was
    using Tandy products, don't remember what one at the time but he'd
    started around 1979 with a TS-80.

    I remember using a TRS-80 in my school library. By that time it was
    the lowest spec'ed computer in the entire school. I guess i was into retro from the get-go.

    It was the latest and greatest when it came out. Complete with a
    game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family
    computer?

    Would be interesting to know the origin of that name.

    Unfortunately my search-fu was not strong enough to discover the
    origin of this recipe, although i can write that it was posted by
    Randy Rigg in December, 1995.

    Randy posted a lot of recipies back then. A good number of them were of
    the 5 ingredient or less, not counting things like salt and pepper,
    type.


    On the topic of kitchen equipment motherboard repair, here is a post
    about burning alcohol to fix an iBook back in 2007.

    <http://www.geektechnique.org/projectlab/726/ diy-obsolete-ibook-logic-board-repair.html>

    We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together
    from various places--got a phone survey once asking about home
    computers. When I said we had one, the next question was--"who made it"?
    I said that the CPU was from X (forgot the various manufactorers),
    keyboard was from Y, printer from Z and monitor was A. Threw that
    surveryor for a good loop! (G)

    And an obligatory radio recipe...

    Title: Steamed Apricot Pudding
    Categories: Puddings
    Yield: 1 Pudding

    A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Mind... Mind... Let's see, I had one of those around here someplace.

    --- PPoint 3.01
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  • From Ben Collver@1:124/5016 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Feb 4 12:01:44 2025
    Re: Participation (oven baked motherboards)
    By: Ruth Haffly to Ben Collver on Mon Feb 03 2025 15:53:31

    Hi Ruth,

    It was the latest and greatest when it came out. Complete with a
    game--how many kids played Pong for hours on end with the family
    computer?

    I remember seeing an electronic Pong machine at a yard sale. They had it hooked up to a TV, so i played it with a friend. So i can write that i
    actually experienced that bit of history.

    We've never had an iBook. Our first PCs were ones Steve cobbled together from various places--

    I've built my share of Frankenpooters. The best thing is getting a highly functional computer for a low cost. The worst thing i remember off the cuff
    is using OEM motherboards with non-standard, cost-cutting design decisions
    and limited availability of documentation and drivers.

    A more appropriate one around our house would be Ham and Chips. (G)

    Alas, my personal recipe collection doesn't include Ham and Chips.

    Here's a recipe for Granola Pie, which strikes me as ecclectic.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Granola Pie
    Categories: Pies
    Yield: 1 Pie

    Granola Pastry *

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1 c Dark corn syrup
    1/2 c Sugar
    1/4 c Brandy
    1/4 c Butter; melted
    3 Eggs
    1 ts Vanilla
    1/4 ts Salt
    2 c Granola
    Sweetened whipped cream

    Granola Pastry:

    Use your normal recipe for one 9" pie crust, except stir in 1/2 c
    crushed granola before adding liquid ingredients.

    Granola Pie:

    Heat oven to 375°F. Prepare granola pastry. Beat corn syrup, sugar,
    brandy, butter, eggs, vanilla, and salt with hand beater. Stir in
    granola. Pour into pastry-lined pie plate. Cover edge with a 2 to 3"
    strip of aluminum foil to prevent excessive browning; remove foil
    during last 10 minutes of baking. Bake until set, 40 to 45 minutes.
    Serve with sweetened whipped cream.

    Recipe by Betty Crocker granola recipe pamphlet, 1981

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