• Peas was: Chilies

    From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Dec 7 06:01:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Shawn Highfield <=-

    That's one of my favorites so I agree with Steve. :) The only
    time Andrea will eat split pea is if I make the soup, the commercial variety's she does not like at all.

    We'll eat the canned but definatly prefer my home made. I'll put in anything from carrots, onions and potatoes to adding tomato sauce--all depends on what's in the fridge and pantry and what strikes my fancy
    the day I make it. We picked up the split peas the other day at
    Wegman's; I asked Steve to pick them up while I went for something
    else. I got what I wanted, then joined him as he was looking at 2
    packages of dried peas. One package was the usual split peas, other one was dried whole peas. We went with the split peas; they cook up and
    "mush" easily.

    I only like peas fresh, frozen or split and made into potage?soup. Canned
    peas are an abomination in my book. I never understood the Brit's love
    of "mushy peas". That's what puts me off of the overcooked (and mushy)
    canned peas.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Perry-Battered Fish & Chips w/Wasabi Mushy Peas
    Categories: Seafood, Potatoes, Vegetables, Herbs
    Yield: 4 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------BATTER--------------------------------
    110 g (4 oz) plain flour
    175 ml (6 fl oz) perry (pear cider)
    2 tb Rapeseed oil (Canola)
    1 lg Egg white; beaten to stiff
    - peaks

    MMMMM---------------------------CHIPS--------------------------------
    6 lg Maris Piper potatoes; in
    - chips
    Salt
    5 tb Rapeseed oil (Canola)

    MMMMM---------------------WASABI MASHED PEAS--------------------------
    400 g (14 oz) fresh or frozen peas
    50 g (1 3/4 oz) butter
    2 tb Wasabi paste

    MMMMM----------------------------FISH---------------------------------
    2 l (3 1/2) pints sunflower oil;
    - for frying
    1 Pollock fillet; in 4 pieces

    Set the oven to 200ºC/400ºF/Gas 6.

    FOR THE BATTER: Whisk together all of the batter
    ingredients apart from the egg white. Leave to rest
    in the fridge for 20 minutes.

    SLICE THE POTATOES into your favourite chip shape. Boil
    for 10 minutes in a pan of salted water, or until the
    potatoes are soft to the point of a knife. Drain and
    transfer to an oven dish once completely dry. Season with
    salt and toss with the rapeseed oil. Bake for 25-30
    minutes, or until golden-brown and crisp.

    FOR THE WASABI MUSHY PEAS: add the peas, butter and
    300ml/10fl oz of water to a pan and cook over a moderate
    heat until the water has evaporated. Add the wasabi paste
    and mash the peas with a fork. Keep them warm until
    you're ready to serve.

    TO FINISH THE BATTER: Whisk the egg white in a bowl until
    stiff peaks form when the whisk is removed from the bowl.
    Fold it into the batter.

    Half fill a pan with the sunflower oil and bring to a
    temperature of 175ºC/350ºF, which you can check using a
    sugar thermometer, or use a deep fat fryer set to the
    same temperature.

    Flip the pieces of pollock in the batter and then
    carefully lower them into the hot oil, one at a time. Fry
    individually until golden-brown. Rest the fish on kitchen
    paper to remove excess oil and the serve with the chips
    and peas.

    NOTE: Not even wasabi can rescue mushy peas. Leave the
    peas off and I'll gladly eat this. -- UDD

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbc.com/food

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 8 08:03:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    In a message to Ruth Haffly you wrote:

    of "mushy peas". That's what puts me off of the overcooked (and
    mushy) canned peas.

    Mushy peas are not canned green peas. It's a different type of pea.
    I don't buy the canned ones though, I get the dried ones that have a
    quick soak tablet in them. 2 hours later you can rinse and cook!

    I really enjoy them.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Mon Dec 9 05:11:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    of "mushy peas". That's what puts me off of the overcooked (and
    mushy) canned peas.

    Mushy peas are not canned green peas. It's a different type of pea.
    I don't buy the canned ones though, I get the dried ones that have a
    quick soak tablet in them. 2 hours later you can rinse and cook!

    I really enjoy them.

    Oh, I know that. But, canned peas are overcooked and mushy. It's a texture thing. The UK's mushy peas are like a green(ish) version of mashed potatoes.

    And it's odd that I really like mashed taters - but not mashed peas.
    If doing peas at my house they will be fresh, frozen, or snow peas in
    the pod. Or split peas made into soup.

    MMMMM---- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Easy Mushy Peas
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 5 servings

    250 g (9 oz) dried marrowfat peas
    2 ts Bicarbonate of soda
    25 g (5 ts) salted butter; diced
    Mint; finely chopped
    1 Lemon; juiced

    Put the marrowfat peas and bicarbonate of soda in a
    large heatproof bowl and cover with boiling water.
    Leave to soak for 12 hours or overnight.

    Drain the peas and rinse them twice with cold water to
    wash off the bicarbonate of soda. Put the beans in a
    saucepan and cover with 650ml/22 fl oz cold water.

    Bring to the boil, reduce the heat and simmer for 30
    mins until tender, stirring occasionally.

    Mash briefly and stir in the butter, mint and lemon,
    seasoning to taste.

    By: Esther Clark

    Serves: 4 - 6 as a side

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.bbcgoodfood.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sun Dec 8 19:54:09 2024
    Hi Dave,

    packages of dried peas. One package was the usual split peas, other one was dried whole peas. We went with the split peas; they cook up and
    "mush" easily.

    I only like peas fresh, frozen or split and made into potage?soup.
    Canned peas are an abomination in my book. I never understood the
    Brit's love
    of "mushy peas". That's what puts me off of the overcooked (and mushy) canned peas.

    My parents used to make a "salad" of shrimp, canned peas and mayo.
    Usually the shrimp was canned as well, unless they were somehow able to
    get fresh but for years that was the only time we had canned peas. Years
    later, in the last few years my mom was at home (especially after
    Hurricane Irene knocked out the local grocery store and Dollar General
    started carrying canned veggies [and other canned goods so folks in the community could get basic groceries], Mom bought canned peas--and other veggies.


    NOTE: Not even wasabi can rescue mushy peas. Leave the
    peas off and I'll gladly eat this. -- UDD

    Ever see the movie "Cars 2"? the tractor character (voiced by Larry the
    Cable Guy) thinks that wasabi is pistacio ice cream, takes a big bite
    and after recivering, announces that the "pistacio ice cream is
    spoiled". I'll take wasabi in (very) small amounts with sushi but think
    of that clip when I have it.


    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Tue Dec 10 06:50:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Tue, 09 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    Oh, I know that. But, canned peas are overcooked and mushy. It's a
    texture thing. The UK's mushy peas are like a green(ish) version of
    mashed potatoes.

    I understand what you're saying now. Yes the canned peas we buy at the
    store are over cooked and mushy, but they are not mushy peas. LOL

    And it's odd that I really like mashed taters - but not mashed peas.

    Have you tried the UK version?

    If doing peas at my house they will be fresh, frozen, or snow peas in
    the pod. Or split peas made into soup.

    We only keep a can of peas in the cupboard for emergency food. When they
    are close to expiring I replace them. We are okay with eating them though
    as they remind us both of child hood. Much prefer the frozen ones.

    Shawn

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 10 06:59:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    In a message to Dave Drum you wrote:

    My parents used to make a "salad" of shrimp, canned peas and mayo.

    So 1970's. LOL. I have a slight memory of having something like this
    as a kid. What did they eat it with? If you added some crunch like onion
    or green pepper it doesn't sound horrible really.

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Tue Dec 10 11:09:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    My parents used to make a "salad" of shrimp, canned peas and mayo.
    Usually the shrimp was canned as well, unless they were somehow able to get fresh but for years that was the only time we had canned peas.
    Years later, in the last few years my mom was at home (especially after Hurricane Irene knocked out the local grocery store and Dollar General started carrying canned veggies [and other canned goods so folks in the community could get basic groceries], Mom bought canned peas--and other veggies.

    NOTE: Not even wasabi can rescue mushy peas. Leave the
    peas off and I'll gladly eat this. -- UDD

    Ever see the movie "Cars 2"? the tractor character (voiced by Larry the Cable Guy) thinks that wasabi is pistacio ice cream, takes a big bite
    and after recivering, announces that the "pistacio ice cream is
    spoiled". I'll take wasabi in (very) small amounts with sushi but think
    of that clip when I have it.

    I saw the original "Cars" but took a pass on the sequel. And as most
    here know I do like spicy stuff. Just not silly about it.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Lightning McQueen's Balsamic Motor Oil Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 8 Servings

    8 Chicken legs; skinned
    1/3 c Orange marmalade *
    1 tb Olive oil
    1/3 c Orange juice
    1 tb Orange zest
    2 Sprigs fresh rosemary
    1/4 ts (ea) salt & pepper
    1 c Balsamic vinegar

    * may substitute no-sugar-added orange marmalade

    Preheat oven 350├╕F/175├╕C

    Heat sauté pan over medium high heat and add olive oil.
    Season chicken legs with salt and pepper and brown on each
    side for 3-5 minutes. Remove chicken and set aside.

    In the same sauté pan, add balsamic vinegar, orange
    marmalade, sprigs of rosemary, zest and juice of the
    orange. Cook for approximately 5 minutes over medium heat
    to reduce the sauce. Make sure you stir it.

    Place chicken back in pan and coat with sauce. If your
    sauté pan has a heat resistant handle go ahead and put in
    your preheated 350├╕F/175├╕C oven. If not, place coated
    chicken on a parchment lined baking sheet and bake for
    25-30 minutes.

    Take out of the oven and let cool for 10 minutes. Enjoy!

    From: http://family.disney.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Dec 11 04:55:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Oh, I know that. But, canned peas are overcooked and mushy. It's a
    texture thing. The UK's mushy peas are like a green(ish) version of
    mashed potatoes.

    I understand what you're saying now. Yes the canned peas we buy at the store are over cooked and mushy, but they are not mushy peas. LOL

    And it's odd that I really like mashed taters - but not mashed peas.

    Have you tried the UK version?

    Yes, I have. I think that it's the mint and lemon combination - which is alright w/tea - that puts me off. Never made them myself as I've never
    seen the requisite marrowfat peas on offer in any of my stupormarkups.

    If doing peas at my house they will be fresh, frozen, or snow peas in
    the pod. Or split peas made into soup.

    We only keep a can of peas in the cupboard for emergency food. When
    they are close to expiring I replace them. We are okay with eating
    them though as they remind us both of child hood. Much prefer the
    frozen ones.

    You do realise that that "best by" date is an arbitrary "suggestion" do
    you not? I've got canned veg several years old in my pantry. As long as
    the can isb't bulged or doesn't hiss when punctured I find that it's OK
    to eat ... if a bit flavour diminished. But, then, canned veg are ALWAYS over-cooked in processing and therefore somewhat flavour diminished from
    their start.

    Something besides soup to make with split peas ...

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Pease Porridge
    Categories: Soups, Pork, Vegetables
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 c Split Peas; diced *
    Water
    1 Ham Bone or Pork Knuckle
    1 lg Onion; chopped
    1 md Turnip; scraped, diced
    1 lg Potato; peeled, diced
    2 Ribs celery; w/leaves, diced
    2 Sprigs Summer Savory
    +=OR=+
    2 Sprigs thyme
    2 Sprigs Marjoram
    1 tb Sea Kelp
    +=OR=+
    Salt; as needed
    Water to cover

    * HUH?! How do you "dice" split peas? - UDD

    Rinse and pick over peas. Cover w/water and leave to soak
    overnight. Next morning, drain, add remaining ingredients,
    and bring to boil. Cover pot, turn down heat, simmer for
    about 2 hrs. stirring occasionally.

    When peas are tender, remove ham bone or knuckle, cut
    meat from bone, and return to pot. Take out herb sprigs.
    Puree if desired, reheat, and serve in individual bowls,
    each topped with a small pat of butter.

    Serves 8.

    Source: Colonial Cookbook, updated as researched from
    The Old Farmer's Almanac 1792.

    FROM: Lisa Crawley

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Tue Dec 10 13:28:32 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    My parents used to make a "salad" of shrimp, canned peas and mayo.

    So 1970's. LOL. I have a slight memory of having something like this
    as a kid. What did they eat it with? If you added some crunch like
    onion or green pepper it doesn't sound horrible really.

    They made it in the '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s, '90s, '00s and early '10s.
    In the '00s a new (to the area) supermarket replaced the A&P, both built
    on a flood plain but the new store (Fresh Town) had a deli section. At
    some point in to '00s, Mom and Dad replaced the canned shrimp with
    imitation crab from the deli. Hurricane Irene in 2011 took out the store
    (and the rest of the plaza). Since the store was beside the Delaware
    River and headwaters for the Pepactan Reservoir, New York City made the
    owners jump thru all sorts of environmental hoops before the store could
    be rebuilt. It took almost a year before they finally got it done; in
    the mean time, the local Dollar General and another convenience store
    started selling canned goods, eggs and other basic groceries. The store
    was located in town, the only grocery store in about a 15 mile radius so
    those that couldn't drive could walk to it. I've not been up there in 7
    years so I don't know how things are holding up.

    Mom and Dad served the peas & shrimp with just bread and butter on the
    side; your idea of pepper (I'd probably use red bell) or onion (French
    fried) sounds like a good mix in. I'll have to give it some thought. (G)

    ---
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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Tue Dec 10 13:59:22 2024
    Hi Dave,


    NOTE: Not even wasabi can rescue mushy peas. Leave the
    peas off and I'll gladly eat this. -- UDD

    Ever see the movie "Cars 2"? the tractor character (voiced by Larry the Cable Guy) thinks that wasabi is pistacio ice cream, takes a big bite
    and after recivering, announces that the "pistacio ice cream is
    spoiled". I'll take wasabi in (very) small amounts with sushi but think
    of that clip when I have it.

    I saw the original "Cars" but took a pass on the sequel. And as most
    here know I do like spicy stuff. Just not silly about it.

    Our heat level has gone down since we moved East. Cooking/eating local,
    just don't have the heat in foods that the West has. One exception and
    even that's not as hot as out west is eastern NC pulled pork bbq. The
    sauce is basically vinegar and red & black pepper flakes. Properly
    cooked, the whole hog is mopped with it several times while cooking,
    then when it is done and the meat is chopped, more is mixed in. More is available, usually on the table, so you can add more if desired. I like
    it a lot better than the western NC red sauce or the Lexington hybrid.

    ... Beyond tasty spicy and heading towards stupid spicy.

    Good way to describe some foods I've had, especially chilis. I make mine
    tasty spicy.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Wed Dec 11 15:37:45 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    We only keep a can of peas in the cupboard for emergency food. When
    they are close to expiring I replace them. We are okay with eating
    them though as they remind us both of child hood. Much prefer the
    frozen ones.

    One of my childhood meals is mashed potatoes, cream of mushroom gravy, hamburger, and peas. Simple, filling and good.

    Lately, I have been adding ground chicken to mac and cheese. Surprisingly good. Going to make some "chicken mac" tonight. I add rosemary and garlic aseasoning to it and it's quite tasty and filling.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Family Favorite Chicken & Stuffing Bake
    Categories: Ceideburg, Mushrooms, Stuffing, Chicken
    Yield: 6 Servings

    6 oz Instant chicken flavored
    -stuffing mix
    1/2 c Each chopped carrot, celery
    -and onion (optional)
    10 1/4 oz Campbell's Cream of
    -Mushroom Soup
    1/2 c Milk
    1 ts Chopped parsley
    6 Skinless, boneless chicken
    -breast halves (about 1 1/2
    -lb.)
    Paprika

    Preheat oven to 400F. Prepare stuffing mix according to package
    directions but add vegetables with seasoning packet. Combine soup,
    milk and parsley; set aside.

    In a 2- or 3-quart shallow baking dish, arrange stuffing across
    center of dish. Spoon thin layer of the soup mixture in casserole on
    each side of stuffing. Arrange chicken over soup mixture; overlap if
    necessary. Sprinkle with paprika.

    Pour remaining soup mixture over chicken. Cover with foil; bake for
    15 minutes. Uncover; bake for 10 minutes more or until chicken is
    fork- tender. Stir sauce before serving.

    Makes 6 servings.

    Posted by Stephen Ceideberg; October 14 1992.

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 12 06:42:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Thu, 11 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    Yes, I have. I think that it's the mint and lemon combination - which
    is alright w/tea - that puts me off. Never made them myself as I've
    never seen the requisite marrowfat peas on offer in any of my stupormarkups.

    I don't add mint or lemon. I just make them with salt and if a bit of
    lemon from the fish gets in there that's okay too.

    You do realise that that "best by" date is an arbitrary "suggestion"

    Yes I do. I figure 5 years sitting in my cupboard is long enough and it's
    time to eat them and replace the can. You may keep the can for 50 years
    for all I care.

    Shawn
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 12 06:49:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Wed, 10 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    Mom and Dad served the peas & shrimp with just bread and butter on
    the side; your idea of pepper (I'd probably use red bell) or onion
    (French fried) sounds like a good mix in. I'll have to give it some thought. (G)

    I may just make something like your parents salad this weekend. I like
    trying old 70's style stuff on occasion. I have some fried garlic I will sprinkle on as well. :)

    Shawn



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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Thu Dec 12 06:52:00 2024
    Hi Sean,
    On <Thu, 11 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    One of my childhood meals is mashed potatoes, cream of mushroom
    gravy, hamburger, and peas. Simple, filling and good.

    Sounds good to me.

    Lately, I have been adding ground chicken to mac and cheese.
    Surprisingly good. Going to make some "chicken mac" tonight. I add rosemary and garlic
    aseasoning to it and it's quite tasty and filling.

    I can't stand ground chicken. Ground turkey is fine and we use it pretty
    much instead of beef due to my beef issue. Just something about the ground chicken that tastes wrong to me.

    Although I did eat some ground beef the other day with no issues, so I'll
    be trying something good soon. LOL

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:396/45 to Ruth Haffly on Thu Dec 12 06:11:34 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    NOTE: Not even wasabi can rescue mushy peas. Leave the
    peas off and I'll gladly eat this. -- UDD

    Ever see the movie "Cars 2"? the tractor character (voiced by Larry the Cable Guy) thinks that wasabi is pistacio ice cream, takes a big bite
    and after recivering, announces that the "pistacio ice cream is
    spoiled". I'll take wasabi in (very) small amounts with sushi but think
    of that clip when I have it.

    I saw the original "Cars" but took a pass on the sequel. And as most
    here know I do like spicy stuff. Just not silly about it.

    Our heat level has gone down since we moved East. Cooking/eating local, just don't have the heat in foods that the West has. One exception and even that's not as hot as out west is eastern NC pulled pork bbq. The sauce is basically vinegar and red & black pepper flakes. Properly
    cooked, the whole hog is mopped with it several times while cooking,
    then when it is done and the meat is chopped, more is mixed in. More is available, usually on the table, so you can add more if desired. I like
    it a lot better than the western NC red sauce or the Lexington hybrid.

    I fail to understand the names/marketing claimss of some of the hot stuff
    being sold these days. Death peppers, Scorpion whatever, etc. Are all of
    their intended customers masochists?

    ... Beyond tasty spicy and heading towards stupid spicy.

    Good way to describe some foods I've had, especially chilis. I make
    mine tasty spicy.

    Bland is almost as bad a too fiery. Except you and fix bland and you
    can't remove heat very successfully. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Yaaaaahhhh Hooooooo Aaaaahhhh Hot Sauce
    Categories: Five, Sauces, Chilies, Garlic
    Yield: 1 Quart

    1 qt Mason jar
    1 tb Salt; plain, non-iodized
    1 pt Chilies; dried Serrano,
    - Cayenne, Tabasco, etc.
    1 pt Garlic cloves; peeled
    Distilled white vinegar

    Fill the Mason jar with the dried chilies and peeled
    garlic. Dissolve the tablespoon of salt in a cup of
    white vinegar and pour over the chilies and garlic.
    Top up the jar with more vinegar and put the jar in
    a low traffic area to let the chilies rehydrate for
    a day or a few weeks. Add vinegar as needed to keep
    the jar full.

    When the chilies are rehydrated empty the contents of
    the jar into a blender or food processor and puree.
    Add vinegar (or water) to get to your desired
    thickness. I like mine to be fairly thick (like catsup
    with an attitude) instead of runny like Tabasco. As
    there is plenty of vegetable pulp in this mix, thick
    is easy.

    You can decant into smaller bottles or keep in the
    quart jug.

    I have kept some in the ice box for as long as five
    weeks with no ill effects. I can't seem to get it to
    last any longer than that. Apparently the longer it
    sits in the ice box the more of it disappears.

    This is a moderately successful attempt to make my own
    "Huy Fong Sriracha Sauce". It's more garlicky than Huy
    Fong and moderately spicy and goes well on almost
    anything. Which, I suspect is why I have never had a
    batch last more than five weeks.

    Devised, made. tested, named and approved in Uncle
    Dirty Dave's Kitchen. In the heart of the Great
    American Outback.

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  • From Kurt Weiske@1:218/1 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Dec 12 08:38:47 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I understand what you're saying now. Yes the canned peas we buy at the store are over cooked and mushy, but they are not mushy peas. LOL

    I was in England last summer, at a little inn with a restaurant. Fresh
    mushy peas, dash of mint, a bit of lemon zest - amazing. Nothing like
    what I've had in the states.




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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Dec 12 16:19:04 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    I can't stand ground chicken. Ground turkey is fine and we use it
    pretty much instead of beef due to my beef issue. Just something about the ground chicken that tastes wrong to me.

    Ground beef and chicken are too chewy for me right now. Ground chicken is a little chewy but not as bad. I'm waiting until january to set up an appointment to get my dentures. Right now, everyone is trying to use their benefits by the end of ther year so the denture clinic is booked solid.

    Although I did eat some ground beef the other day with no issues, so
    I'll be trying something good soon. LOL

    That's a good thing. I was able to gum some beef tips the other day and I
    was in heaven. Can't wait until I can eat steak again!

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Beef and Cornbread Supper
    Categories: Meats
    Yield: 6 servings

    1 1/2 lb Lean ground beef
    10 oz Can cream of asparagus soup
    1/4 c Onion, finely chopped
    2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    3/4 c All purpose flour, sifted
    1/2 c Corn meal
    1 tb Baking powder
    1 ts Salt
    1/4 c Shortening, melted
    2/3 c Milk
    1 x Green pepper rings

    Preheat oven to 425 degrees. Brown ground beef in a 10 inch cast iron
    skillet. Add soup, onion and worcestershire sauce. Simmer for about
    5 minutes. Sift the flour, corn meal, baking powder and salt
    together in a medium bowl. Add shortening and milk. Beat until
    smooth. Pour over ground beef mixture. Spread with narrow spatula
    to within 2 inches of the edge. Top with green pepper rings. Bake
    for 15 to 20 minutes. Do set the skillet on the table and serve with
    a salad...

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Dec 12 16:35:52 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I may just make something like your parents salad this weekend. I like trying old 70's style stuff on occasion. I have some fried garlic I
    will sprinkle on as well. :)

    Mmm, avocado lime Jell-o mold...not.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Cheeseburger Pie
    Categories: Cheese, Hamburger, Main dish, Meats, Vegetable
    Yield: 6 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CRUST--------------------------------
    1 c Bisquick Baking Mix
    1/4 c Milk Or Light Cream

    MMMMM------------------------MEAT FILLING-----------------------------
    1 lb Lean Ground Beef
    1/2 t Salt
    1/2 c Onion; Chopped, 1 md
    1/4 t Pepper

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    2 ea Tomatoes; Sliced, Md
    1 c Cheddar Cheese; Shredded,4oz
    1 tb Worcestershire Sauce
    2 ea Eggs; Lg
    2 tb Bisquick Baking Mix

    Heat the oven to 375 degrees F. Mix the 1 cup of the biscuit baking
    mix and the milk until a soft dough forms. Gently smooth the dough
    into a ball on a floured cloth-covered surface after kneading the
    ball 5 times to mix. Roll out the dough until it is 2 inches larger
    than an inverted 9-inch pie pan. Ease into the pan and flute the
    edges. Set aside. Cook and stir the meat and onion in a large skillet
    until the meat is brown. Drain off the excess fat. Stir in the salt,
    pepper, 2 Tb of the baking mix, and the worcestershire sauce. Turn
    the meat filling into the pastry lined pie pan. Arrange the tomato
    slices on the meat mixture. Beat the eggs slightly and stir in the
    cheese. Spoon onto the tomatoes spreading the mixture to cover the
    top completely. Bake for about 30 minutes. Cut into wedges and
    serve with chili sauce, if desired.

    MMMMM

    -- Sean

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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Kurt Weiske on Fri Dec 13 06:30:00 2024
    Hi Kurt,
    On <Fri, 12 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    I was in England last summer, at a little inn with a restaurant.
    mushy peas, dash of mint, a bit of lemon zest - amazing. Nothing
    what I've had in the states.

    I really like them.

    Shawn


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Fri Dec 13 06:32:00 2024
    Hi Sean,
    On <Fri, 12 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    chicken is a little chewy but not as bad. I'm waiting until january
    to set up an appointment to get my dentures. Right now, everyone is benefits by the end of ther year so the denture clinic is booked

    That makes sense. Also after this long what's another month?

    That's a good thing. I was able to gum some beef tips the other day
    and I was in heaven. Can't wait until I can eat steak again!

    You and me both Sean!

    Shawn

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  • From Dave Drum@1:2320/105 to Shawn Highfield on Fri Dec 13 04:45:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Yes, I have. I think that it's the mint and lemon combination - which
    is alright w/tea - that puts me off. Never made them myself as I've
    never seen the requisite marrowfat peas on offer in any of my stupormarkups.

    I don't add mint or lemon. I just make them with salt and if a bit of lemon from the fish gets in there that's okay too.

    Both of the recipes I have call for mint and lemon. And the one time I
    had them inflicted on me at a place (now defunct) called Cambridge Inn
    those flavours were present.

    You do realise that that "best by" date is an arbitrary "suggestion"

    Yes I do. I figure 5 years sitting in my cupboard is long enough and
    it's time to eat them and replace the can. You may keep the can for 50 years for all I care.

    I figured you probably knew that. But I have also run up on people who
    *should* know that and don't - pitching perfectly good food in the bin
    because of some arbitrary date thing.

    I wouldn't keep canned good for that long. If it gets too old and I get
    tired of looking at the can I put it in the bag for the next "feed the derelicts" food drive put on by our local postal workers union. Or use
    it to prop open a door. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Can Opener Corn Chowder
    Categories: Five, Vegetables, Chilies, Dairy
    Yield: 3 Servings

    16 oz Bag corn niblets
    21 1/2 oz (2 cans) cream of potato
    - soup; undiluted
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies
    1 Soup can milk
    Fresh ground pepper

    Open the soup and dump into your crockpot. Add the corn
    and milk and stir. Add the chilies and stir again.

    Set the cooker on low and let it do its thing for about
    four hours. Just before serving grind pepper (to taste)
    into the soup and give it another stir to combine.

    Ladle into bowls and dig in. Refrigerate leftovers (if
    any) and nuke back to life for supper the next day.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Thu Dec 12 12:10:36 2024
    Hi Shawn,


    Mom and Dad served the peas & shrimp with just bread and butter on
    the side; your idea of pepper (I'd probably use red bell) or onion
    (French fried) sounds like a good mix in. I'll have to give it some thought. (G)

    I may just make something like your parents salad this weekend. I
    like trying old 70's style stuff on occasion. I have some fried
    garlic I will sprinkle on as well. :)

    Enjoy it. I used to think it was really good but I was much younger then
    and shrimp was rarely seen in our house. Grew up, moved to coastal NC
    and got a lot of shrimp there. I've not had it as much since we moved
    away, but enough that it's enjoyable whenever I do have it.

    Had to laugh at my extended family--for my parent's 50th anniversary
    dinner, one of the main features was an endless bowl of steamed shrimp.
    My siblings and cousins emptied the bowl several times--they never had
    the easy access to shrimp that I did, living on the coast. IIRC, I had a
    couple of shrimp but it wasn't as "special" as it would have been to me
    at one time.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Thu Dec 12 12:21:23 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I saw the original "Cars" but took a pass on the sequel. And as most
    here know I do like spicy stuff. Just not silly about it.

    Our heat level has gone down since we moved East. Cooking/eating local, just don't have the heat in foods that the West has. One exception and even that's not as hot as out west is eastern NC pulled pork bbq. The sauce is basically vinegar and red & black pepper flakes. Properly
    cooked, the whole hog is mopped with it several times while cooking,
    then when it is done and the meat is chopped, more is mixed in. More is available, usually on the table, so you can add more if desired. I like
    it a lot better than the western NC red sauce or the Lexington hybrid.

    I fail to understand the names/marketing claimss of some of the hot
    stuff being sold these days. Death peppers, Scorpion whatever, etc.
    Are all of their intended customers masochists?

    I think once they started with names along that line, they had to
    continue each time they came out with something hotter. Tho I don't know
    what could be hotter than death, except maybe H***fire. (G)


    ... Beyond tasty spicy and heading towards stupid spicy.

    Good way to describe some foods I've had, especially chilis. I make
    mine tasty spicy.

    Bland is almost as bad a too fiery. Except you and fix bland and you
    can't remove heat very successfully. Bv)=

    True; I'd rather heat up bland than cool down too hot. Those are the
    times to pile on the sour cream/stir it in well and have a big glass of
    milk on the side. We try to make out chili with a bit of heat that goes
    from the lips to the throat, but not so hot that you can't taste the
    other ingredients. We've tasted enough "one note" chilis in the chili
    cook offs at our church to know the difference. (G)


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Dave Drum on Fri Dec 13 13:57:00 2024
    Hi Dave,
    On <Sat, 13 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    Both of the recipes I have call for mint and lemon. And the one time
    I had them inflicted on me at a place (now defunct) called Cambridge
    Inn those flavours were present.

    I'm sure that's the correct way. :) However like you if I'm the cook I
    can do whatever the heck I want.

    I figured you probably knew that. But I have also run up on people
    who *should* know that and don't - pitching perfectly good food in
    because of some arbitrary date thing.

    Just told someone at work today who was going to throw out a bunch
    of canned veggies. "They expired in Feb" I said "Bring them to me, I'll
    eat them."

    derelicts" food drive put on by our local postal workers union. Or

    Any "expired" cans we donate are thrown out. They are not legally allowed
    to give them to hungry people. Better they starve to death.

    Shawn

    ... I'm famous. That's my job.


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  • From Shawn Highfield@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Fri Dec 13 14:03:00 2024
    Hi Ruth,
    On <Fri, 12 Dec 24>, you wrote me:

    Enjoy it. I used to think it was really good but I was much younger

    I didn't make it yet, but it's going ot make an appearance on our xmas
    get together. (I think I'm making lasagna or chili nothing fancy or
    normal this year)

    shrimp. My siblings and cousins emptied the bowl several times--they
    the easy access to shrimp that I did, living on the coast. IIRC, I

    Yes, I can see how that would be a treat for them as well.

    had a couple of shrimp but it wasn't as "special" as it would have
    been to me at one time.

    I used to visit friends in SC every year so being right on the water I
    had my fill of good fresh stuff too.

    Shawn

    ... A feature is a bug with seniority.


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Dec 14 10:51:00 2024
    Shawn Highfield wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    Both of the recipes I have call for mint and lemon. And the one time
    I had them inflicted on me at a place (now defunct) called Cambridge
    Inn those flavours were present.

    I'm sure that's the correct way. :) However like you if I'm the
    cook I can do whatever the heck I want.

    I usually make a new-to-me recipe as written on the first go. Then I
    have a base-line from which I can modify to suit myself.

    I figured you probably knew that. But I have also run up on people
    who *should* know that and don't - pitching perfectly good food in
    because of some arbitrary date thing.

    Just told someone at work today who was going to throw out a bunch
    of canned veggies. "They expired in Feb" I said "Bring them to me,
    I'll eat them."

    derelicts" food drive put on by our local postal workers union. Or

    Any "expired" cans we donate are thrown out. They are not legally
    allowed to give them to hungry people. Better they starve to death.

    That's just silly. But, it's similar here as far as stores donating cans
    past their "best by" date. Still, the food bank, soup kitchens, bread
    lines, etc. will use them up. A couple chain grocers are known to stack
    their "expired" stuff on their back dock and turn a blind eye. Which gives
    them a legal leg to stand on. "Hey, we pitched it. Can't control the olf dumpster divers." Especially when St. Martin de Porres backs their truck
    up to the dock and clans house. Bv)=

    I used to live about a block from a chain supermarket whose policy on meat
    was to mark it down at 5 PM on the last day of sale. And at 5 o'clock a
    white coated and helmeted "meat-bot" would come out of the processing refrigerated room and parse the gondolas - placing the marked down (50%
    or more) roasts, steaks and chops into the "used meat" bin.

    I always had a freezer full of high-end "used" meat. The pricey stuff
    was mostly what remained to be marked down. The cheaper stuff such as hamburger, bratwurst links, sausage, etc. never stay in the biins long
    enough to "expire". I was disppointed when they packed their bags in a
    union dispute and left town.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Rib Eyes w/Burned At The Steak Marinade
    Categories: Beef; marin, Chilies
    Yield: 2 Servings

    2 lg Ribeye steaks

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    4 oz Good Seasons Italian
    - dressing
    2 Habanero peppers; dried *
    2 tb Worcestershire sauce
    1 tb Red wine vinegar
    1 ts Black pepper; fine ground
    1/4 ts Salt

    Make Italian dressing, set aside.

    In a small saucepan boil water and blanch (2 min.) the
    habaneros. Remove and cut off stems. remove seeds from
    one pepper but save seeds from one of the peppers. Place
    peppers in a blender and add all other ingredients.
    Blend well.

    Coat steaks generously. Marinade for 3-4 hours. Grill
    over hot charcoal fire. Look out! HOT!

    Serves two

    * Why not use two fresh habaneros and skip the blanching
    step? - UDD

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Sat Dec 14 11:11:00 2024
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I fail to understand the names/marketing claimss of some of the hot
    stuff being sold these days. Death peppers, Scorpion whatever, etc.
    Are all of their intended customers masochists?

    I think once they started with names along that line, they had to
    continue each time they came out with something hotter. Tho I don't
    know what could be hotter than death, except maybe H***fire. (G)

    Errrrmmmmm, I always thought of death as "cold" As in "Papa's in the
    cold, cold grounf"

    ... Beyond tasty spicy and heading towards stupid spicy.

    Good way to describe some foods I've had, especially chilis. I make
    mine tasty spicy.

    Bland is almost as bad a too fiery. Except you and fix bland and you
    can't remove heat very successfully. Bv)=

    True; I'd rather heat up bland than cool down too hot. Those are the
    times to pile on the sour cream/stir it in well and have a big glass of milk on the side. We try to make out chili with a bit of heat that goes from the lips to the throat, but not so hot that you can't taste the
    other ingredients. We've tasted enough "one note" chilis in the chili cook offs at our church to know the difference. (G)

    We had a competition cook once who "loaded" his judges cup really heavy
    with hot stuff. And then snickered at the reactions. So they instituted
    a rule that a cook may be required to eat some of his own chilli. Put
    the kibosh on that, it did.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Willie Nelson's Great White Chilli
    Categories: Poultry, Beans, Chilies, Herbs, Cheese
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb White beans; rinsed
    6 c Chicken broth
    1 ts Chicken base
    2 lg Onions; peeled, chopped
    1 tb Oil
    8 cl Garlic; minced, more to
    - taste
    7 oz Can diced green chilies
    4 ts Ground cumin
    2 ts Dried oregano
    4 Serrano chilies; stemmed,
    - seeded, minced
    3 tb Chopped cilantro
    4 c Diced, cooked chicken
    1 c Sour cream
    3 c Monterey jack cheese;
    - shredded

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPERS-------------------------------
    Sour cream
    Chopped green onion
    Chopped cilantro
    Chopped tomato

    Rinse and pick over the beans to remove stones and
    debris. Put in a medium sauce pan and boil hard for at
    least five minutes to start the starch conversion.

    Put the chicken base, broth, and beans in a large pot
    or crock-pot.

    Simmer for two hours, covered.

    Saute the onions in the oil until they are translucent
    and beginning to brown.

    Combine the onions with the spices, chicken, and other
    vegetables, and simmer for another hour or so.

    Add the cheese and sour cream, cooking until the cheese
    melts into the chilli.

    Serve in bowls with desired toppers.

    The recipe serves about four people

    UDD NOTES: This is AKA chile verde. You can leave out
    the beans and increase the meat. You can also make this
    with pork. But don't serve it to the Rabbi.

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.food.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Shawn Highfield on Sat Dec 14 14:36:45 2024
    Hi Shawn,

    Enjoy it. I used to think it was really good but I was much younger

    I didn't make it yet, but it's going ot make an appearance on our xmas
    get together. (I think I'm making lasagna or chili nothing fancy or normal this year)

    I've not really thought about what we're going to do for Christmas
    dinner. Just the 2 of us so probaably nothing too far from the ordinary.


    shrimp. My siblings and cousins emptied the bowl several times--they
    the easy access to shrimp that I did, living on the coast. IIRC, I

    Yes, I can see how that would be a treat for them as well.

    I always enjoyed shrimp the few times I had it while growing up. One
    year just before Christmas, pre made shrimp cocktails were on sale at
    one of our local grocery stores. Mom bought enough for the whole family
    so we had a rare appetiser with Christmas dinner. I think she'd just
    started working a new job that year so was able to afford it.

    had a couple of shrimp but it wasn't as "special" as it would have
    been to me at one time.

    I used to visit friends in SC every year so being right on the water I
    had my fill of good fresh stuff too.

    We lived just off the Intracoastal Waterway for almost 8 years before
    Steve went in the Army so got it fairly often. Went back to visit the
    area in 2020; the fish house where we used to get our seafood looked
    like it hadn't been painted since before we left the area in 1983. Got
    some seafood to take back with us (just before we left for home).


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Sat Dec 14 14:46:42 2024
    Hi Dave,

    I fail to understand the names/marketing claimss of some of the hot
    stuff being sold these days. Death peppers, Scorpion whatever, etc.
    Are all of their intended customers masochists?

    I think once they started with names along that line, they had to
    continue each time they came out with something hotter. Tho I don't
    know what could be hotter than death, except maybe H***fire. (G)

    Errrrmmmmm, I always thought of death as "cold" As in "Papa's in the
    cold, cold grounf"

    Since we're not supposed to discuss religion in this echo, I'll just say
    that there are 2 places where you can spend your afterlife. One is just
    right temperature-wise, the other is rather much on the warm side.


    ... Beyond tasty spicy and heading towards stupid spicy.

    Good way to describe some foods I've had, especially chilis. I make
    mine tasty spicy.

    Bland is almost as bad a too fiery. Except you and fix bland and you
    can't remove heat very successfully. Bv)=


    We had a competition cook once who "loaded" his judges cup really
    heavy with hot stuff. And then snickered at the reactions. So they instituted a rule that a cook may be required to eat some of his own chilli. Put the kibosh on that, it did.

    Our church outside of Fort Devens, MA had a chili cook off while we were members (there all of 6 months after we returned from Germany and moved
    to AZ). One of the entrys tasted like somebody had dropped burnt
    cigarette ash into the pot, and plenty of it. Steve had the same thought
    we he tasted it; needless to say, it was not a winner. That was before
    we knew about Fido and the Cooking echo; my chili was my now family
    style version without a lot of heat. I don't remember how it placed.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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