• Replacement for TrapDoor

    From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to All on Sat Jan 29 18:45:09 2022
    Hello all, I want setup Fidonet for my Amiga BBS again, I used TrapDoor back in the days, but TrapDoor can only handle modem calls.
    What can i use to fetch and send Fodonet mails that use TCP/IP connections?

    I have everything else configured for Fidonet in the BBS software but I can not send/recieve mail.

    Conny / Digital Zone BBS
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  • From Niklas Lindholm@2:201/420 to Conny Enstr÷m on Sat Jan 29 13:06:39 2022
    Hi Conny,

    I think I mentioned this to you earlier but I only use the Amiga sida for the reading/writing of FidoNet. The mailer and the tosser I run in Linux. Since I'm not running a real hardware Amiga but an emulator in Linux this is pretty stratightforward since the Linux side and Amiga sida have a shared filesystem.

    When using a real Amiga you might be able to accomplish something similar by using a network file system or some other mechanism to transfer files between Linux and Amiga.

    For TrapDoor you might be able to use telnetd.device (just like NiKom does). This should work at least for incoming connections. Outgoing connections might be trickier..
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  • From Niklas Lindholm@2:201/420 to Niklas Lindholm on Sat Jan 29 13:13:09 2022
    There is also AmiBinkd but from what I've heard it's very unreliable and causes crashes not just in itself but also in other programs that run on the same machine.
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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Niklas Lindholm on Sun Jan 30 00:27:43 2022
    Den 2022-01-29 kl. 13:06, skrev 2201/420:
    Hi Conny,

    I think I mentioned this to you earlier but I only use the Amiga sida
    for the reading/writing of FidoNet. The mailer and the tosser I run in Linux. Since I'm not running a real hardware Amiga but an emulator in Linux this is pretty stratightforward since the Linux side and Amiga
    sida have a shared filesystem.

    When using a real Amiga you might be able to accomplish something
    similar by using a network file system or some other mechanism to
    transfer files between Linux and Amiga.

    For TrapDoor you might be able to use telnetd.device (just like NiKom does). This should work at least for incoming connections. Outgoing connections might be trickier..

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    I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?
    My NiKom is already configed for Fidonet.

    Conny

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  • From Niklas Lindholm@2:201/420 to Conny Enstr÷m on Sat Jan 29 16:40:21 2022
    I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?

    I use binkd as the mailer. At least in Ubuntu it's available as a standard package to install.

    As tosser I use CrashMail. It has been abandoned by the original developer but I have cloned it on GitHub and made a few fixes.
    https://github.com/punktniklas/crashmail
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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Niklas Lindholm on Sun Jan 30 02:55:06 2022
    Den 2022-01-29 kl. 16:40, skrev 2201/420:
     CE>> I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?

    I use binkd as the mailer. At least in Ubuntu it's available as a
    standard package to install.

    As tosser I use CrashMail. It has been abandoned by the original
    developer but I have cloned it on GitHub and made a few fixes. https://github.com/punktniklas/crashmail

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    Seems like I miss something to compile it, in every output when running make I get the error "cc -Wall -Werror -Wno-deprecated-declarations".

    Conny
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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Niklas Lindholm on Sun Jan 30 10:04:13 2022
    Den 2022-01-29 kl. 16:40, skrev 2201/420:
     CE>> I will check it, do you have a hint about a mailer tosser for linux?

    I use binkd as the mailer. At least in Ubuntu it's available as a
    standard package to install.

    As tosser I use CrashMail. It has been abandoned by the original
    developer but I have cloned it on GitHub and made a few fixes. https://github.com/punktniklas/crashmail

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    I think I manage to compile it, the binary files are in /usr/bin but I can't find the .prefs files? They exist in the compile folder but nowhere else.:

    conny@conny-desktop:~/crashmail$ sudo make install
    make -C jamlib
    make[1]: Går till katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/jamlib”
    make[1]: ”jamlib.a” är aktuell.
    make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/jamlib”
    make -C cmnllib
    make[1]: Går till katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/cmnllib”
    make[1]: ”cmnllib.a” är aktuell.
    make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/cmnllib”
    make -C oslib_linux
    make[1]: Går till katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/oslib_linux”
    make[1]: ”oslib.a” är aktuell.
    make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/oslib_linux”
    Linking crashmail/crashmail.
    /usr/bin/ld: crashmail/filter.o: in function `Filter_Execute': filter.c:(.text+0x20bd): varning: the use of `tmpnam' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'
    Linking tools/crashlist.
    Linking tools/crashstats.
    Linking tools/crashgetnode.
    Linking tools/crashmaint.
    Linking tools/crashwrite.
    Linking tools/crashexport.
    Linking tools/crashlistout.
    install -d -m 755 /usr/bin
    install -d -m 755 /usr/share/man/man1
    install -m 755 crashmail/crashmail tools/crashlist tools/crashstats tools/crashgetnode tools/crashmaint tools/crashwrite tools/crashexport tools/crashlistout /usr/bin
    install -m 644 man/crashmaint.1 man/crashstats.1 man/crashgetnode.1 man/crashlist.1 man/crashexport.1 man/crashwrite.1 man/crashmail.1 /usr/share/man/man1

    it_detects_dupes_successfully: [PASS]
    it_merges_packets: [PASS]
    it_routes_packets: [PASS]
    crashmail
    it_generates_alpha_sorted_stats: [PASS]
    it_generates_message_sorted_stats: [PASS]
    it_generates_byday_sorted_stats: [PASS]
    it_generates_byfirstimport_sorted_stats: [PASS]
    it_generates_bylastimport_sorted_stats: [PASS]
    it_generates_bydupes_sorted_stats: [PASS]
    areafix
    it_generates_area_list: [PASS]
    it_subscribes_node: [PASS] =========================================================
    Tests: 19 | Passed: 19 | Skipped: 0 | Failed: 0
    make[1]: Lämnar katalogen ”/home/conny/crashmail/tests”
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  • From Bjrn Felten@2:203/2 to Conny Enstrm on Sun Jan 30 12:44:30 2022
    I think I manage to compile it, the binary files are in /usr/bin but I can't find the .prefs files? They exist in the compile folder but
    nowhere else.:

    In Johan's original, it's located in the doc folder:

    Volume in drive S is Media
    Volume Serial Number is F0CE-5E9F

    Directory of S:\JAMNNTP\crashmail-0.71\doc

    2022-01-30 12:40 <DIR> .
    2022-01-30 12:40 <DIR> ..
    2001-05-15 18:39 4 224 AreafixHelp.txt
    2003-12-03 22:17 19 198 example.prefs
    2004-07-10 13:44 8 377 filter.txt
    2004-07-10 14:15 16 133 History.txt
    2003-12-03 07:10 16 467 ReadMe.txt
    6 File(s) 64 428 bytes
    2 Dir(s) 53 694 959 616 bytes free




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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Conny Enstr÷m on Sun Jan 30 21:52:57 2022
    //Hello Conny,//

    on *29.01.22* at *17:45:09* You wrote in rea *AMIGA*
    to *All* about *"Replacement for TrapDoor"*.

    Your messages have charset set to UTF-8 while at least the sender name is obviously Latin-1 encoded- Same for Bjoern.

    How are you actually writing these Mails (with Mozilla in the tearline)?

    Regards,
    Tim
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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Tim Schattkowsky on Mon Jan 31 18:00:53 2022
    Den 2022-01-30 kl. 21:52, skrev 2240/1120.29:
    //Hello Conny,//

    on *29.01.22* at *17:45:09* You wrote in rea *AMIGA*
    to *All* about *"Replacement for TrapDoor"*.

    Your messages have charset set to UTF-8 while at least the sender name
    is obviously Latin-1 encoded- Same for Bjoern.

    How are you actually writing these Mails (with Mozilla in the tearline)?

    Regards,
    Tim
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    Ok....but that is not the biggest problem for me right now, I suspect you see my Swedish letter in my name is not correct. I try to setup binkd so I can get Fidonet back to my BBS.
    Yes I write in Thunderbird right now until I can get binkd and everyting to work.

    Conny Enstrom
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Niklas Lindholm on Mon Jan 31 18:08:08 2022
    Hi Niklas,

    On 2022-01-29 13:13:09, you wrote to you:

    There is also AmiBinkd but from what I've heard it's very unreliable
    and causes crashes not just in itself but also in other programs that
    run on the same machine.

    I never used it myself, but what I understand from others who did: you need to increase the stack size for this program, to get it to function more stable...

    Bye, Wilfred.
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  • From Bjrn Felten@2:203/2 to Conny Enstrm on Mon Jan 31 18:15:18 2022
    Ok....but that is not the biggest problem for me right now, I suspect
    you see my Swedish letter in my name is not correct.

    That's what your Thunderbird is defaulting to. If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och där väljer ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

    I think... :)

    Björn
    Enström

    Looking OK?

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Bj÷rn Felten on Mon Jan 31 18:21:14 2022
    Björn Felten -> Conny Enström skrev 2022-01-31 18:15:
    If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och där väljer ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

    Or better yet, if you do it in Visa->Kodning *before you* comment the message, the header will look OK as well. Sorry...



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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Wilfred van Velzen on Mon Jan 31 18:50:15 2022
    Den 2022-01-31 kl. 18:08, skrev 2280/464:
    Hi Niklas,

    On 2022-01-29 13:13:09, you wrote to you:

     NL>> There is also AmiBinkd but from what I've heard it's very unreliable
     NL>> and causes crashes not just in itself but also in other programs that
     NL>> run on the same machine.

    I never used it myself, but what I understand from others who did: you need to increase the stack size for this program, to get it to function more stable...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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    Yes I know, ( stack 50000 ) but AmiBinkd want to use AmiTCP, since the BBS and Amiga system right now is running on FS-UAE in Linux and using bsdsocket.library and the telnetd.device for the BBS software for connections.

    Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and running in the BBS.

    Conny
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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Bjrn Felten on Mon Jan 31 18:53:23 2022
    Den 2022-01-31 kl. 18:15, skrev 2203/2:
     CE>> Ok....but that is not the biggest problem for me right now, I suspect
     CE>> you see my Swedish letter in my name is not correct.

       That's what your Thunderbird is defaulting to. If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och där väljer ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

       I think... :)

       Björn
       Enström

       Looking OK?

    .

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    Västeuropeisk ISO-8859-1 var redan inställt.

    Conny
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Conny Enstrm on Mon Jan 31 20:48:51 2022
    Hi Conny,

    On 2022-01-31 18:50:15, you wrote to me:

    Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and running in the BBS.

    I've noticed your posts in the BINKD area. It should be a problem. I've always compiled mine myself. I use it without the perl dependency, because I don't need it:

    # ldd binkd
    linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd323ce000)
    libbz2.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libbz2.so.1 (0x00007f8fbefaa000)
    libz.so.1 => /lib64/libz.so.1 (0x00007f8fbed94000)
    libresolv.so.2 => /lib64/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f8fbeb7c000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x00007f8fbe7d4000)
    /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x000055ebd5141000)


    Bye, Wilfred.
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  • From Tim Schattkowsky@2:240/1120.29 to Björn Felten on Mon Jan 31 21:28:03 2022
    //Hello Bjoern,//

    on *31.01.2022* at *17:21:14* You wrote in rea *AMIGA*
    to *Bj÷rn Felten* about *"Replacement for TrapDoor"*.

    Bjoern Felten -> Conny Enstroem skrev 2022-01-31 18:15:
    If you (when writing a message) Alternativ->Kodning och daer vaeljer
    ISO-8859-1 our Swedish characters will look OK.

    Or better yet, if you do it in Visa->Kodning before you comment the message, the header will look OK as well. Sorry...

    indeed!

    Regards,
    Tim
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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Conny Enstrm on Tue Feb 1 11:24:02 2022

    Hello Conny!

    31 Jan 22 18:50, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

    Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and running in the BBS.

    As others have said, your best to compile it for your system... This will help you.
    Then just copy the binkd program to your location of choice.


    git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
    cd binkd
    cp mkfls/unix/* .
    ./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
    make







    Stephen


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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Stephen Walsh on Tue Feb 1 16:10:54 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 01:24, skrev 3633/280:
       Hello Conny!

    31 Jan 22 18:50, you wrote to Wilfred van Velzen:

     CE>> Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet up and
     CE>> running in the BBS.

    As others have said, your best to compile it for your system... This
    will help you.
    Then just copy the binkd program to your location of choice.


    git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
    cd binkd
    cp mkfls/unix/* .
    ./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
    make







    Stephen


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    But it still wants to use libperl5.32 I suppose.

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  • From Stephen Walsh@3:633/280 to Conny Enstrm on Wed Feb 2 09:12:26 2022

    Hello Conny!

    01 Feb 22 16:10, you wrote to me:

     CE>>> Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet
     CE>>> up and running in the BBS.

    As others have said, your best to compile it for your system...
    This will help you. Then just copy the binkd program to your
    location of choice.

    git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
    cd binkd
    cp mkfls/unix/* .
    ./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
    make

    But it still wants to use libperl5.32 I suppose.


    Nop... no perl...


    husky@host:~/bin$ ./binkd -vv
    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 30 2022 17:26:02/Linux)
    Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

    husky@host:~/bin$ ldd binkd
    linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffc24f38000)
    libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f0b0952b000)
    libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f0b0950e000)
    libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f0b094f4000)
    libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0b0932f000)
    /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f0b09581000)





    Stephen


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  • From Conny Enstrm@2:203/2 to Stephen Walsh on Wed Feb 2 00:02:05 2022
    Den 2022-02-01 kl. 23:12, skrev 3633/280:
       Hello Conny!

    01 Feb 22 16:10, you wrote to me:

      CE>>>> Im struggli'n with binkd on the Linux machine to get Fidonet
      CE>>>> up and running in the BBS.

     SW>>> As others have said, your best to compile it for your system...
     SW>>> This will help you. Then just copy the binkd program to your
     SW>>> location of choice.

     SW>>> git clone https://github.com/pgul/binkd
     SW>>> cd binkd
     SW>>> cp mkfls/unix/* .
     SW>>> ./configure --with-zlib --with-bzip2
     SW>>> make

     CE>> But it still wants to use libperl5.32 I suppose.


    Nop... no perl...


    husky@host:~/bin$ ./binkd -vv
    Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 30 2022 17:26:02/Linux)
    Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2.
    Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

    husky@host:~/bin$ ldd binkd
            linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffc24f38000)
            libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f0b0952b000)
            libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f0b0950e000)
            libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007f0b094f4000)
            libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f0b0932f000)
            /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f0b09581000)





    Stephen


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    I got the latest version as a binary, works like a charma, now the rest is to setup the BBS side and see if binkd can cooparate with the TrapToss software for Amiga.
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