Hello, I have a lot of file areas with long file names.
for me synchronet is just displaying the 8 char data code when i log into
ftp.

i'd like to have it show the actual directory name.
I need that long file name of the directory instead of some truncated list

is there some type of trick i can use so i can get past this limitation?
right now i have multiple dirs showing up in my listings because the dir code is the same after importation.

can i use an alias?

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Re: ftp server
By: MRO to digital man on Mon Jun 13 2022 11:38 pm

Hello, I have a lot of file areas with long file names.
for me synchronet is just displaying the 8 char data code when i log into ftp.

i'd like to have it show the actual directory name.
I need that long file name of the directory instead of some truncated list

is there some type of trick i can use so i can get past this limitation?

Not currently.

right now i have multiple dirs showing up in my listings because the dir code is the same after importation.

I can add an additional "virtual directory name" field (per directory) that could be used for that purpose. You'd likely need to do a lot of copy/pasting or typing to get that field populated how you like (for each directory) though. Or would you just prefer an option to just use the already-configured short or long directory name *as* the virtual directory name in place of the internal code (as is done now)?

can i use an alias?

Aliases work for paths from the root directory only (e.g. I have /Synchronet as an alias to my /main/sbbs directory).
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Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Jun 14 2022 12:12 pm

is there some type of trick i can use so i can get past this limitation?

Not currently.

i would put that right on the top of the things to do with updating synchronet's file base specs.

i just imported a bunch of dirs and it made a huge mess because of the dir codes. the filename 8.3 limit prevented a decent import

I can add an additional "virtual directory name" field (per directory) that could be used for that purpose. You'd likely need to do a lot of copy/pasting or typing to get that field populated how you like (for each directory) though.

Or would you just prefer an option to just use the
already-configured short or long directory name *as* the virtual directory name in place of the internal code (as is done now)?

this sounds good. people would have more descriptive dir name listings if they have long file names.

it would also be good to make a virtual dir on the ftp server where it
shows the directory for the users and the sub dirs.
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Re: ftp server
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Jun 14 2022 10:50 pm

Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Jun 14 2022 12:12 pm

is there some type of trick i can use so i can get past this limitation?

Not currently.

i would put that right on the top of the things to do with updating synchronet's file base specs.

i just imported a bunch of dirs and it made a huge mess because of the dir codes. the filename 8.3 limit prevented a decent import

No, that'd be the 8-char code suffix limit.

I can add an additional "virtual directory name" field (per directory) that could be used for that purpose. You'd likely need to do a lot of copy/pasting or typing to get that field populated how you like (for each directory) though.

Or would you just prefer an option to just use the
already-configured short or long directory name *as* the virtual directory name in place of the internal code (as is done now)?

this sounds good. people would have more descriptive dir name listings if they have long file names.

Long directory names I think you mean, but yes, I understand.

it would also be good to make a virtual dir on the ftp server where it
shows the directory for the users and the sub dirs.

I'm not clear what you're suggesting there.
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Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Jun 14 2022 09:38 pm

it would also be good to make a virtual dir on the ftp server where it shows the directory for the users and the sub dirs.

i want to make an alias:


bbsfiles c:\bbsfiles

And have it show up on the ftp file listings with all the sub dirs

Maybe have attributes for uploading and downloading and other ARS?

bbsfiles c:\bbsfiles ULs255 DLs50 -S
something similar to this where it allows uploads from s255 but only downloads from s50
-S = subdirs
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MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-

Re: ftp server

i just imported a bunch of dirs and it made a huge mess because
of the dir codes. the filename 8.3 limit prevented a decent
import

Sounds like very poor planning on your part. Non-existant planning,
even.


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Re: ftp server
By: MRO to Digital Man on Wed Jun 15 2022 06:42 am

Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Tue Jun 14 2022 09:38 pm

it would also be good to make a virtual dir on the ftp server where it shows the directory for the users and the sub dirs.

i want to make an alias:

bbsfiles c:\bbsfiles

And have it show up on the ftp file listings with all the sub dirs

Maybe have attributes for uploading and downloading and other ARS?

bbsfiles c:\bbsfiles ULs255 DLs50 -S
something similar to this where it allows uploads from s255 but only downloads from s50
-S = subdirs

Instead, just create a "bbsfiles" file library in SCFG with the parent directory of "c:\bbsfiles" and then set "Access to Sub-directories" to "Yes". That will automatically make all the sub-directories of c:\bbsfiles file areas in that library. No alias needed.
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Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Wed Jun 15 2022 08:57 am

Instead, just create a "bbsfiles" file library in SCFG with the parent directory of "c:\bbsfiles" and then set "Access to Sub-directories" to "Yes". That will automatically make all the sub-directories of c:\bbsfiles

i did that but then i ran into the dir code issues.
i have many file areas and the prefix is usually bbs.xxx whatever so
i run out of space with the dir code limitations.

i know i requested this feature years ago, but it's still something i prefer not to use. i just run into issues because of usage of the short dir code.

i have to manually add all file areas or do an importand manually change each dir code so i can have a unique code. when i do this, on the ftp server people just see descriptions they cant understand.
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Re: ftp server
By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jun 16 2022 05:37 am

i have to manually add all file areas or do an importand manually change each dir code so i can have a unique code. when i do this, on the ftp server people just see descriptions they cant understand.

And 2 days ago I committed that change you requested to allow the sysop (you) to use each dir's long or short name as the virtual sub-directory name instead of the code suffix. Did you not notice?
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Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jun 16 2022 09:32 am

Re: ftp server
By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jun 16 2022 05:37 am

i have to manually add all file areas or do an importand manually change each dir code so i can have a unique code. when i do this, on the ftp server people just see descriptions they cant understand.

And 2 days ago I committed that change you requested to allow the sysop (you) to use each dir's long or short name as the virtual sub-directory name instead of the code suffix. Did you not notice?

that's good. i saw it but i didnt really read it. i work 2 jobs, so didn't have time to really look into it. I was just talking about the problems i was having when i first posted.
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Re: ftp server
By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jun 16 2022 04:17 pm

Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jun 16 2022 09:32 am

Re: ftp server
By: MRO to Digital Man on Thu Jun 16 2022 05:37 am

i have to manually add all file areas or do an importand manually change each dir code so i can have a unique code. when i do this, on the ftp server people just see descriptions they cant understand.

And 2 days ago I committed that change you requested to allow the sysop (you) to use each dir's long or short name as the virtual sub-directory name instead of the code suffix. Did you not notice?

that's good. i saw it but i didnt really read it. i work 2 jobs, so didn't have time to really look into it. I was just talking about the problems i was having when i first posted.

Yeah, that "Access to Sub-directories" option is experimental and I don't think anyone is really using it. I just noticed that the virtual sub-directory name is not initialized/set when using that method, so that's something that broke since the v3.19b release. I'll play with that option some more with lots of similarly named sub-directories > 8 chars in length and see how best to make that work well.
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Re: ftp server
By: Digital Man to MRO on Thu Jun 16 2022 02:50 pm

Yeah, that "Access to Sub-directories" option is experimental and I don't think anyone is really using it. I just noticed that the virtual sub-directory name is not initialized/set when using that method, so that's something that broke since the v3.19b release. I'll play with that option some more with lots of similarly named sub-directories > 8 chars in length and see how best to make that work well.

It works, and it works well. I haven't tested it against greater than 8 character directory names; that will be tested tomorrow when I import some really long directories.

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