This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children of those visitors, do you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this. Thanks!
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This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to
understand you better? What about the children of those visitors, do
you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as
a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels
about this. Thanks!
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This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting
your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children of
those visitors, do you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this.
Thanks!
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Re: Visitors to your church
By: tfurrows to All on Tue Dec 27 2016 02:51 pm
This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children of those visitors, do you correct their
faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this. Thanks!
from what i understand they dont mind and welcome visitors.
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This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children of those visitors, do
you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as
a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this. Thanks!
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Episcopalian myself.
Our congregation welcomes all. We generally attend Mass and then have a short
social gathering afterward. When we have a visitor, the are welcome and we don't try to "correct" their religion. We do interchange ideologies.
I do have to say about 2 1/2 years ago, I began work on a project with a Muslim. The project lasted about 18 months. He and I had considerable religious conversations and his religion intrigued me. Never did either one of
us try to convert the other.
I think we must learn to accept. Personally, I don't agree that religion should be practiced in an amphitheater, but I would rather have the people that
enjoy that sort of service at that service than somewhere else causing trouble.
We all need something to believe in. I fervently stand by my religious convictions, but I will not chide someone else for having a different opinion than mine.
At the very least, they have enough faith to have an opinion.
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The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this. Thanks!
from what i understand they dont mind and welcome visitors.Yes, I know for a fact that that is true with Catholic.
This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children of those visitors, do you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this. Thanks!
Re: Re: Visitors to your church
By: Deavmi to Mro on Wed Dec 28 2016 10:20 am
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this. Thanks!
from what i understand they dont mind and welcome visitors.Yes, I know for a fact that that is true with Catholic.
i think most religious if not all allow people from other faiths to visit. dont
take my word for it if you are in the middle east, though!
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On 2016-12-29 01:08 AM, Mro wrote:Please correct me if I am wrong.
Re: Re: Visitors to your churchAlso depends on other things. With the middle east it is not enitirely
By: Deavmi to Mro on Wed Dec 28 2016 10:20 am
feelsThe Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone
about this. Thanks!
from what i understand they dont mind and welcome visitors.Yes, I know for a fact that that is true with Catholic.
i think most religious if not all allow people from other faiths to
visit. dont
take my word for it if you are in the middle east, though!
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true. Like that big black box in Mecca, I don't think people of other
faiths are allowed there.
Re: Visitors to your church
By: tfurrows to All on Tue Dec 27 2016 14:51:59
This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children of those visitors, do you correct their
faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about this. Thanks!
Since you mentioned Baptists, I may be able to shed a little light on this, but
it does depend upon the church.
In my (independent) Baptist church, any visitor would be welcomed. While no blatent attempt would be made to actively convert them, you could safely assume
that the message would include a very pointed message detailing what "saved" means, what "salvation" is, where the Bible shows you how to be saved, and where you will ultimately end up if you are not saved.
Being an Independent Baptist church, ANYTHING presented as Gospel will be accompanied with the appropriate book/chapter/verse so the congregation can read it for themselves...
I would also expect that they would be greeted either before or after services
by at least half the church. The pastor would be sure to greet them, invite them back, and offer to explain or discuss anything which they might have questions about.
Again, YMMV. I've been in Baptist churches where they would be more concerned
about how long the dresses were, if the men were wearing slacks, if the males had long hair, if the females had short hair, etc. Once the clothing evaluation was over, they might worry about other stuff, like whether the visitor knew what the Bible said about believing in Jesus, being saved, going to Heaven, etc.
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There are definately dress codes. I know for St. Peters you can't go in
with tattoes (they must be covered) and no short pants that girls where
(I don't know the name, short shorts?).
Also depends on other things. With the middle east it is not enitirely true. Like that big black box in Mecca, I don't think people of other faiths are allowed there.
Re: Re: Visitors to your church
By: Deavmi to Loco on Thu Dec 29 2016 08:13 pm
There are definately dress codes. I know for St. Peters you can't go in with tattoes (they must be covered) and no short pants that girls where (I don't know the name, short shorts?).
Is the no Tattoo rule a dress code, or Biblical prohibition?
I'm not sure where tattos come in to play. I don't personally have any (Left US Navy as an E-5 and dont have tatoos???), but don't see where my wife's butterfly on her ankle should cause a disruption to services..
This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiting
your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the childrenof
those visitors, do you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiti your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children those visitors, do you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about th Thanks!
Also depends on other things. With the middle east it is not enitirely true. Like that big black box in Mecca, I don't think people of other faiths are allowed there.
So, if someone were to enter a church and you discover they are not religiou do you ask them to leave? Or, what do you do?
Re: Visitors to your church
By: tfurrows to All on Tue Dec 27 2016 02:51 pm
This is a question for you church-goers: How do you feel about people visiti
your services that aren't members of your particular church/sect/faith? If you're a Baptist, how would you feel if a Catholic/Mormon/Muslim wanted to attend your services, just to understand you better? What about the children
those visitors, do you correct their faith, try to influence them, or just accept them as a visitor?
The Baptist bit was just an example, I'm curious how everyone feels about th
Thanks!
I would like to ask this question as well, but with the visitor not have any religious beliefs at all? What would a congregating do with them? Would anyone
approach them? What would you say? Would you try to convert them because they have no belief?
Personally, I believe in evidence that the scientific community provide. However, I do find the concept of religion interesting and I have been known to
sit in a church on occasion as I always find them peaceful. And I do like to listen to a good sermon, I just do not agree with what is said.
So, if someone were to enter a church and you discover they are not religious,
do you ask them to leave? Or, what do you do?
I am not asking this to make trouble, it is a question I have often pondered and this seems like a good time to ask..
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Re: Visitors to your church
By: Jeff Friend to All on Mon Jan 02 2017 10:23 pm
So, if someone were to enter a church and you discover they are not religiou
do you ask them to leave? Or, what do you do?
For my part Jeff, we have people visit our church frequently. I like to find out what people believe, but not with the goal to correct them, mostly because
I want to understand their background and find out what we might have to talk about. We've had people visit that don't believe in God, and that's fine with me. I figure they'll come to that place if and when they want to, there's nothing I can do to force it.
If they just want to listen, that's great. If they want to discuss, that's wonderful too.
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Re: Re: Visitors to your church
By: Deavmi to Mro on Thu Dec 29 2016 08:11 pm
Also depends on other things. With the middle east it is not enitirely true. Like that big black box in Mecca, I don't think people of other faiths are allowed there.
I saw in a documentary a few years ago, no other person other than of that certain relgion is allowed near it. (There is a "barrier", you're not allowed to cross.)
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Re: Re: Visitors to your churchAh okay. Makes sense.
By: Deavmi to Mro on Thu Dec 29 2016 08:11 pm
Also depends on other things. With the middle east it is notenitirely
true. Like that big black box in Mecca, I don't think people ofother
faiths are allowed there.
I saw in a documentary a few years ago, no other person other than of
that
certain relgion is allowed near it. (There is a "barrier", you're not
allowed
to cross.)
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I would like to ask this question as well, but with the visitor not have any religious beliefs at all? What would a congregating do with them? Would anyone approach them? What would you say? Would you try to convert them because they have no belief?
I prefer the King James (KJV) bible. I get worried whenever I see a Bible where it has been "clarified", "amplified", "translated to modern English", etc. I also get worried when a "church" publishes its own bible...
Was KJV the first writing? I would think any and all, other than the origin is simply a translation or clarification.
Was KJV the first writing? I would think any and all, other than the
origin is simply a translation or clarification.
perhaps the oldest english translation that people generally have access to though. I think the author of that post doesn't like the new-age translations that that the KJV and convert it to modern language.
In french I read the (among others) the Louis Segond version. I find it fascinating to compare that translation to the KJV; it was done in the 1800's, the KJV was 1600's... so an appeal to antiquity works for both :)
It's also interesting how the topic has strayed. I have no problem with it, it's just interesting how many feelings/thoughts are pent-up concerning religion.
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Re: Visitors to your church
By: Hemo to Loco on Wed Jan 04 2017 11:44 am
Was KJV the first writing? I would think any and all, other than the origin is simply a translation or clarification.
For the old testament, there is no "first" that we have. For the new testament, the greek is the most original, though we don't have any "first" copies really. We have a canonized collection of works that the Catholic church selected out of a much larger set of writings. The KJV
is perhaps the oldest english translation that people generally have access to though. I think the author of that post doesn't like the
new-age translations that that the KJV and convert it to modern
language.
It's also interesting how the topic has strayed. I have no problem with it, it's just interesting how many feelings/thoughts are pent-up concerning religion.
I've read enough of the bible to think the whole sum of it is this - take care of each other ( the second 'greatest' commandment - love one another as you love yourself), and as a whole global colony of humans - we've already fucked that up pretty well.
Re: Re: Visitors to your church
By: Deavmi to Deavmi on Thu Dec 29 2016 08:11 pm
Also depends on other things. With the middle east it is not enitirely true. Like that big black box in Mecca, I don't think people of other faiths are allowed there.
I'm not specifically thinking of holy sites, just normal worship services. Though, I did visit Loudes once in the off-season, and was surprised by how hands-off it was. It was very low-key, and very beautiful.
After some more thought, I'm thinking it might be best not to attend out-of-the-blue... I have friends of other faiths, it might be better if I just
ask them if I can come with them, then I have a friend and someone who can explain why I'm there :)
I am particularly interested in attending Baptist services. All my friends growing up were Baptist, but I never really went to church with them. To be honest, I was always a little intimidated by their approach to faith.
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