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    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint

    By listland -
    February 18, 2015

    Top 10 Reasons Mother Teresa Was No Saint: 10 Misconceptions about
    Mother Teresa

    Mother Teresa known and celebrated worldwide as the Albanian Nun who
    received a calling to work with the poor in the slums of Calcutta.
    Even now, many years after her death, her name is synonymous with
    charity, with love and care of the poor. She was honored with the
    Nobel Prize for Peace and, shortly after her death the Vatican started
    an accelerated process for her canonization.

    Significant controversy surrounds her life and her missionary work.
    Here we list the top 10 reasons why Mother Teresa was not a saint and
    why claims about her life and work should be treated with caution.

    10 Mother TeresaΓÇÖs Home for the Dying provides abysmal medical
    care.


    Mother Teresa was no saint because her home for the dying provided
    terrible medical care Mother Teresa was no saint because her home for
    the dying provided terrible medical care

    Mother Teresa received a vision from God telling her to help the poor
    while living among them. Following some very basic medical training
    Mother Teresa started to look after the ΓÇÿpoorest among the poorΓÇÖ.,
    those who were dying, destitute on the streets in the slums of
    Calcutta. In 1952 her Missionaries of Charity organization started
    her Kalighat Home for the Dying ΓÇô a place where people could come to
    die in dignity and comfort. She wanted to make it possible for ΓÇÿpeople
    who lived like animals to die like angels ΓÇô loved and wantedΓÇÖ.

    When qualified doctors visited the home, however they found that the
    medical care provided was very poor. Most of the volunteers had no
    medical knowledge and yet had to make medical decisions because there
    were no doctors available. There was no distinction made between those
    who were suffering from curable and incurable illnesses so people who
    might have survived had they been given access to treatment were left
    to die. Needles were re-used so many times that they became blunt and
    they were not sterilized between uses. In 1981 when the state of care
    in her facilities was challenged she said ΓÇÿThere is something beautiful
    in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like ChristΓÇÖs
    Passion. The world gains much from their sufferingΓÇÖ. This shows a
    very cynical use of the poor to further the ends of others.

    There was no proper pain management, meaning people suffered in
    needless pain while they died. Mother Teresa promoted this suffering
    as she felt that it was of benefit to suffer in this world for a better
    life in heaven. She is reputed to have once told someone dying in pain
    ΓÇÿyou are suffering, that means Jesus is kissing youΓÇÖ. It is not known
    whether the sufferer was even Christian but probably not, he screamed
    back, in pain and distressed ΓÇÿtell your Jesus to stop kissing meΓÇÖ.

    With regard to her own medical treatment Mother Teresa received only
    the best. Although she made public shows of declining free high
    quality medical treatment she nevertheless had no compunctions about
    secretly accepting medical care from some of the best institutions in
    the world including having cataract surgery and having a pace maker
    installed. When the time came for her to be ΓÇÿkissed by JesusΓÇÖ she did
    not die in one of her own homes for the dying and was not treated with
    blunt needles. She passed to meet her maker in the very best
    of medical facilities.

    9 Mother TeresaΓÇÖs goal was missionary work not helping the
    poor.
    Mother Teresa would rather be a missionary rather than help poor people
    Mother Teresa would rather be a missionary rather than help poor people

    Despite the extensive donations to Mother TeresaΓÇÖs homes only a few
    hundred people are helped at any one time. At the time she accepted
    her Nobel Prize for Peace Mother Teresa claimed to have helped about
    36,000 people in Calcutta, the reality is that the Missionaries of
    Charity have helped about 5-700 people. A survey of charitable
    organizations operating in Calcutta in 1998 did not even rank her homes
    in the top 200. Some of the Missionaries of Charity homes are used, not
    to treat people but to try to persuade them to convert to Catholicism.

    There have been well documented cases of people trying to access the
    services of Mother TeresaΓÇÖs house for the dying but being turned away.
    In one instance in 1979, shortly before the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony,
    a well-known Calcuttan intellectual, Jyotirmoy Datta, tried to obtain
    the assistance of the House of the Dying for a destitute he found on
    the street. He spoke to Mother Teresa herself who refused to help.

    Mother TeresaΓÇÖs organization received and receives extensive donations
    which would enable them to transform the homes for the dying into
    modern, clean hospices that provide a decent level of palliative care.
    Mother Teresa was not, however, interested in mitigating suffering so
    much as celebrating it. As such she concentrated on opening new
    Missionaries of Charity convents and homes in many different locations
    around the world as opposed to channeling its extensive funds into
    their existing homes for the benefit of the people they claimed to be
    trying to help.

    8 Mother TeresaΓÇÖs Missionaries of Charity baptized the dying
    without their permission.
    Mother Teresa's minions baptized people without their permission Mother
    TeresaΓÇÖs minions baptized people without their permission

    The Missionaries of Charity operate in Calcutta where the majority of
    people are Hindu or Muslim. Mother Teresa claimed that the
    Missionaries of Charity gave the dying the rituals of their faith.

    However, in 1992, on a visit to the Vatican she claimed that she and
    her sisters gave the dying a special ΓÇÿTicket to St PeterΓÇÖ by baptizing
    them. In essence all who were dying (and probably in pain, incoherent
    and incapable of making a rational decision) were asked if they wanted
    a blessing, their sins forgiven and to see God. It is not clear if
    this offer was worded so as to make it clear that the offer came with
    regard to the Christian God or if the offer was made at the same time
    that they were given the comforts of their own faith. Most people
    agreed to this forgiveness, their head was then covered in a wet cloth
    and the formula for adult baptism repeated very quietly

    To impose a religion on someone, to convert them covertly is not the
    actions of a saint. Surely if someoneΓÇÖs mortal soul is in peril it
    would be better to arrange for instruction in the religion and allow
    people to come to their faith naturally.

    7 Mother TeresaΓÇÖs Missionaries of Charity Organization has
    shady finances

    Mother Teresa's finances allegedly were not above board Mother TeresaΓÇÖs
    finances allegedly were not above board

    Under Indian Law all charities are required to publish their accounts
    but the Missionaries of Charity have never complied with this
    requirement. In Germany, when the Missionaries of Charity were asked
    how much money they had they responded that ΓÇÿitΓÇÖs nobodyΓÇÖs businessΓÇÖ

    In New York a former Sister with the Missionaries of Charity said that
    in one year the organization banked $50million, she thought that the
    organizationΓÇÖs receipts worldwide would amount to somewhere in
    the region of $100m annually.

    There equally appears to be no record of expenditures made by the
    Missionaries of Charity, indeed wherever possible they rely on
    donations ΓÇô of food, clothing, buildings etc to cover their start up
    and operating costs. It appears that a significant portion of the
    monies were deposited at the Vatican Bank in Rome and not used to
    improve the houses of the dying, the orphanages or other charitable
    operations of the order. Saving not spending money appears to have
    been a goal in itself even when the money was plentiful and could have
    been used to ameliorate suffering and improve conditions for those
    living in the very worst of conditions. New missions are given start
    up assistance from the order but are then expected to be
    completely self ΓÇôsufficient.

    Many philanthropic organizations exist in order to use money to improve
    the life of others. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a typical
    example. It uses its funds to help improve the lives that people lead,
    regardless of where they are or how they worship ΓÇô the foundation is
    predicated on the belief that every life has equal value. Its finances
    are properly regulated, transparent and applied effectively. Unlike
    the Missionaries of Charity who hide away their money and promote
    suffering as noble, admirable philanthropic organizations like the Bill
    and Melinda Gates Foundation help people to make the most of the life
    they have.

    6 Mother Teresa took money from known fraudsters and refused
    to refund it ΓÇô even when this refusal caused real harm to innocent
    people.

    Mother Teresa was happy to accept donations from any source ΓÇô even when
    the source in question was a reprehensible con-man. She received
    significant donations from Charles Keating, a leading American catholic
    and anti-pornography protestor who was convicted and imprisoned for
    fraud when his Savings and Loan Association collapsed leaving 23,000
    investors with worthless bonds and from Robert Maxwell who stole £450m
    from the pension fund of his employees. Although it appears that she
    was not aware of their activities prior to the scandals association
    with the men she showed little concern for the suffering their actions
    caused; she believed that the donation of funds could salve the
    conscience of those who donated them.

    Mother Teresa wrote to the judge requesting leniency for Keating
    because he had made donations to the Missionaries of Charity. The
    Deputy District Attorney wrote to her explaining exactly what Keating
    had done in defrauding small investors of their life savings. Mother
    Teresa refused to reply to that letter. Sadly because of the shady
    finances of her organization it is impossible to tell whether the money
    was put to good use which would at least provide some small comfort to
    the people whose lives were ruined. From the poor conditions in her
    House of the Dying and the lack of support given to missions worldwide
    it would seem these people lost their money for no good reason.

    5 As well as consorting with fraudsters Mother Teresa was
    friends with the leaders of some of the most reprehensible political
    regimes in the world.

    Mother Teresa associated with really shady characters. Duvalier regime
    in Haiti. Mother Teresa associated with really shady characters.
    Duvalier regime in Haiti.

    Mother Teresa was an admirer of the Duvalier regime in Haiti. The rule
    of ΓÇÿPapaΓÇÖ and ΓÇÿBabyΓÇÖ Doc was known, worldwide, to be brutally
    oppressive and incredibly cruel to the people of the impoverished
    country. Both were known to live a lavish lifestyle at the expense of
    the people of Haiti, to allow the torture and murder of their
    detractors and to be involved in the underground trade in both drugs
    and body parts. Nevertheless Mother Teresa had no compunctions about
    accepting an award from Baby Doc and to say of the Duvaliers that they
    ΓÇÿlove their poor and their love was reciprocated.ΓÇÖ

    Mother Teresa did not confine her controversial actions to Haiti. When
    she returned to her homeland of Albania in 1989 she visited the widow
    of the former communist Dictator Enver Hoxha and laid flowers on his
    grave. She spent time with many communist party officials and at no
    time used her visit to condemn the human rights abuses of the communist
    regime or their brutal suppression of religion. Even if the reality
    was that she could not make any negative comments during her visit she
    could have used her position to make comments and condemnations from
    abroad.

    4 Mother Teresa had a hard line stance on abortion,
    contraception and divorce, except where her Friends were concerned.

    Mother Teresa was a hard-line pro-lifer Mother Teresa was a hard-line
    pro-lifer

    Mother Teresa did not believe in supporting those deciding whether or
    not they had to terminate their pregnancies ΓÇô she wanted only to
    condemn them whatever their circumstances. When she accepted her Nobel
    Prize for Peace she said ΓÇÿAbortion is the worst evil and the greatest
    enemy of peace, If a mother can kill her own child, what will prevent us
    from killing ourselves or one another? Nothing.ΓÇÖ

    Her stance was completely hardline with no exceptions even in the most
    mitigating of circumstances. In 1971 the Indo-Pakistan War led to many
    atrocities including the rape of over 450,000 Hindu women by Pakistani
    soldiers. Rather than supporting them in coming to terms with the
    abuse they had suffered or condemning the atrocities perpetrated
    against them she chose to speak only on the question of abortion. For
    Mother Teresa felt that there should be no choice of whether or not to
    keep the babies of such a crime she called, very publicly for the
    victims to keep the babies. She held fast to this belief her entire
    life; in 1993 she condemned a 14 year old rape victim in Ireland for
    seeking an abortion. Indeed she had no problems travelling around the
    world specifically to prevent individual cases of abortion and to help
    anti-abortion campaigns to influence the government policy on abortion
    in many countries around the world.

    While no one could question her personal feelings on the sanctity of
    life she was not the person suffering in these circumstances, she was
    not the person facing the choice and, in the case of the Hindu women
    was speaking from a religious view point that was not applicable to
    them. Her views were not, however, immutable. When her close friend
    Indira Ghandi imposed a state of emergency in India, suspending the
    constitution and instituting a reign of terror against her detractors
    Mother Teresa publicly supported her. This support did not waiver even
    when Indira GhandiΓÇÖs regime started a campaign for the forced
    sterilization of the poor.

    Mother Teresa was as passionately anti divorce as she was
    anti-abortion. She believed that marriages were sanctified by God. At
    the time the country was considering legalizing divorce Mother
    Teresa wrote to the people of Ireland telling them that ΓÇÿIf a father
    and mother are not willing to give until it hurts to be faithful to
    each other, and to their children they are not showing their children
    what it means to love…These children will grow up to be spiritually
    poorΓÇÖ. However, when her good friend Princess Diana obtained her
    divorce from Prince Charles Mother Teresa praised the divorce as a good
    thing because the love had left the marriage, there was no thought
    given to the spiritual poverty in which her children would grow up. No
    condemnation as there would have been for an ordinary Irish couple
    looking for a divorce.

    3 Mother Teresa was rarely in Calcutta preferring to fly
    around the world to promote her opinions.

    Mother Teresa the real Flying Nun. She'd rather be up in the air than
    on the ground in calcutta helping the poor Mother Teresa the real
    Flying Nun. SheΓÇÖd rather be up in the air than on the ground in
    Calcutta helping the poor

    Whether it was anti-abortion campaigning in the US or Japan or
    convincing the people of Ireland to vote against the legalization of
    divorce Mother Teresa spent a lot of time traveling around the world to
    promote her beliefs and the work of her Missionaries of Charity.

    She was not well known in Calcutta, she used the poverty of the city as
    a background to her work and media image but she spent very little time
    interacting with other social or cultural institutions. Even her
    spiritual advisor Edward Le Jolly confirmed in his book on Mother
    Teresa that she was in Calcutta only infrequently. While away she
    would often say she was unhappy to be absent from Calcutta but she
    typically would spent time in Rome following a trip abroad instead of
    returning directly to India.

    2 Mother Teresa liked to be seen to help but provided very
    little actual help.

    As mentioned above Mother Teresa helped only a fraction of the people
    she claimed to have taken from the streets of Calcutta. She liked to
    be seen to be present at huge disasters. When the Union Carbide plant
    in Bhopal became the site of the largest ever industrial accident in
    the world Mother Teresa lost no time in flying down there to be
    photographed. On seeing the carnage she exhorted the victims to
    forgiveness before starting a tour of the hospitals to ΓÇÿhelpΓÇÖ. She
    visited some of the survivors but the Missionaries of Charity failed to
    direct any of their extensive funds to the local mission which would
    have enabled them to engage in and provide concrete assistance to the
    afflicted.

    When the 1993 earthquake of Latur killed 8,000 people and left 5m
    people homeless Mother Teresa failed to direct any of her Missionaries
    of Charity nun or volunteers to help nor did she make any funds
    available for re-building although many other charities in India, of
    many religious denominations and non, did participate in the relief
    effort. Nevertheless Mother Teresa had no difficulty in posing for
    photographs showing her presenting the deeds of new houses to some of
    the people of Latur. That same year India was struck with an outbreak
    of Bubonic Plague. Despite having no involvement in treating the
    victims Mother Teresa was photographed entering ΓÇÿquarantineΓÇÖ on arrival
    in Rome, the photographs were then sent worldwide to promote the belief
    that she had been struggling to help deal with the outbreak.

    1 There have been no miracles attributed to Mother Teresa

    There is a very strict process that he Catholic Church has to follow in
    order to declare someone a saint. Typically investigations cannot
    start until five years after a personΓÇÖs death in order for any hysteria
    surrounding a much loved person to die down. The Catholic Church
    fast-tracked the process of canonization, starting the process within
    less than two years of Mother TeresaΓÇÖs death and she was beatified in
    2003.

    Beatification, the first step to full sainthood requires the
    performance of a miracle. In 2002 the Catholic Church recognized that
    Mother Teresa had cured an Indian woman of an abdominal tumor a year
    after her death after Missionaries of Charity prayed for Mother
    TeresaΓÇÖs help and applied a locket with her picture in it to the site
    of the tumor.

    While the woman believed that Mother Teresa cured her it appears that
    her doctors say that she was not suffering from a tumor but from a cyst
    which was cured by the medicines prescribed by the local hospital. The
    womanΓÇÖs medical notes are in the possession of the Missionaries of
    Charity who refuse to release them. Doctors at the local hospital have
    claimed to have been subjected to pressure from the Catholic Church to
    declare the cure a ΓÇÿmiracleΓÇÖ.

    So was Mother Teresa a Saint or was she a hard-nosed public relations
    specialist who used her status as a charitable icon to travel the
    world, rubbing shoulders with a dubious elite and pushing her own
    beliefs on abortion, contraception and divorce (extreme even for the
    Catholic Church). Was she an angel of mercy providing tender care to
    the poorest of the poor in their last moments of suffering or did she
    glorify that suffering and see it as a benefit in and of itself. Did
    she help tens of thousands of poor around the world or provide
    assistance to a few hundred as a front to her missionary organization?
    Has she performed miracles or are ordinary events being manipulated to
    make us think she has? What is indisputable is that, in stark contrast
    to properly managed and transparent philanthropic institutions, despite
    the extensive donations to the Missionaries of Charity, the assistance
    they provide is as limited in terms of care and medical aid as it was
    when Mother Teresa started her organization. Whatever the truth,
    questions should be asked and answers given.

    * Katia Winnicka
    Any evidence?
    + listland
    Check out all the links within the text of the post (now in
    bold).
    + OsoBossHogg
    donΓÇÖt need any evidence. this is my faith.
    o Nicolet Foster
    My faith is in the fairy princess riding a unicorn in
    space, now disprove it, or it’s real… that is your logic
    and that is exactly how crazy you people sound.
    * CumExApostolatus
    This woman was simply part of the false ecumenical scam perpetrated
    on the world, by the elite, in order to help bring about the new
    world religion. ThatΓÇÖs why she never actively converted anyone. She
    didnΓÇÖt have the Catholic faith and therefore felt no urgency to
    teach the faith and convert those willing to be converted. I canΓÇÖt
    understand why the adulation for this woman. In this ΓÇÿmedia ageΓÇÖ
    people are so easily duped.
    * PaulMurrayCbr
    Mother Teresa was farming the poor for the ΓÇ£graceΓÇ¥ that their
    suffering produced. The people writhing in pain in her ΓÇ£hospitalsΓÇ¥
    were basically dairy cows. The grace milked from these people was
    used to fill her beatification vat in heaven, as well as for paying
    bribes to various ΓÇô shall we say ΓÇô entities.
    The money was incidental. The only issue was that it was important
    that it not go to updating her so-called hospitals. And pain relief
    or medical treatment would have impacted the quality and quantity
    of grace she was getting .
    + listland
    Whoa. Milked the grace.
    * practical intellectual
    Seems slated to me. Most of what you say is anti catholic or
    unsustainable.
    + listland
    Do you mean slanted and unsubstantiated? There are plenty of
    sources in the body of the article.
    * Shanti-Ananda
    Being a child that came from her orphanage and was blessed by her,
    you have stepped way out of line!
    + listland
    How? Do you disagree with our authorΓÇÖs post? About what
    exactly?
    * Laurie Mitchell
    Great article, thank you. IΓÇÖve been reading the same thing
    elsewhere on the internet and am shocked and disappointed with MT.
    It all makes sense, and IΓÇÖm just sorry for her victims. You lay out
    the facts with sources (plus many other reputable sources agree),
    so why is she still so revered???
    * fufhertoo .
    This article and everything in it is a complete sham perpetuated by
    your atheistic hatred of God and religion. How do you attack a
    woman who gave her whole life, spent her whole life serving the
    poorest of the poor. She was not called to convert the hindus, she
    was not called to cure. She was called to love and to let people
    that were considered the lowest of the caste system, those deemed
    wretched, that were literally left to die in the streets, she
    picked those people up and cleaned their wounds and let them die in
    a bed with dignity. She was the first, the very first person to
    open a hospice in New York City for Aids patients, at a time when
    no one would care for them or touch them out of fear for their own
    well being. She did not judge these people. She loved these people
    as children of God. And if she took money from anyone who you view
    as sleazy, then so be it. The money was going to the poor and may
    have been the only redeeming act of good will from those of
    questionable character that you list. Many of her detractors like
    you may be quick to point to her faults, but your kind is never
    able to really accomplish anything but stir anger, hatred and
    division. Countless charities with no religious affiliation aimed
    at working with the poor in Kolkata have come and gone, but the
    missionaries of charity remain. Do you wonder why your efforts seem
    so fruitless, its because you canΓÇÖt give what you donΓÇÖt have.
    Without love, cannit accomplish the miraculous. You are the poorest
    of the poor spiritually and blind at that.
    + Barbara Fitzgerald
    I agree with you. Mother Teresa never called herself a saint.
    In fact she admitted she doubted her faith often. How
    wonderful to hear that ΓÇô a real human ΓÇô like the rest of us.
    We are all called to be like her. Perhaps not perfect, but
    through our struggles always trying to be the person God wants
    us to be.
    + Adi
    Not providing adequate ΓÇ£medicalΓÇ¥ attention and treatment to
    people who could have been cured is criminal abuse. That is
    what she did.
    o veritas101
    Yeah, your right. I suppose she should have just left all
    of those people to die in the street abandoned and alone,
    according to your logic. We are talking about India, a
    third world country with a caste system that has a far
    different reality that what we have in the United States.
    People in the slums have zero access to clinical
    treatment, nor are there enough medical practitioners to
    treat all of the ill and dying in these areas. The demand
    is greater than what is available and the upper classes
    do not mix with the poorest of the poor.
    # Adi
    I am from India, lived in kolkata, place of theresa.
    Half of what you said is factually wrong. Other half
    canΓÇÖt justify running natural death camps like
    theresa did. She could have atleast given them free
    medicines that govt distribute. but no, her ΓÇ£faithΓÇ¥
    didnΓÇÖt allow for that. What is the good in bringing
    in a curable patient from the streets and then let
    him die by not giving medical treatment? Lot of
    other NGOs are treating the poor patients
    # Scipio Americanus
    Sounds just like America with its upper crust elite
    and itΓÇÖs lower class common people who cannot afford
    the health care that the wealthy believe is there
    for them exclusively. Just because the caste system
    in India has existed longer does not mean that the
    entitled of America do not look upon the lower
    classes as beneath them .
    + Rudolph
    Well written. Thank you.
    * Lee
    Not only was Mother Teresa the worlds biggest con artist ,she was
    an atheist who lost her faith in religion thirty years before her
    death. She lived in luxury except when taking fund raising photos.
    + lorriman
    An atheist isnΓÇÖt someone who is either merely doubting or
    being tempted to doubt.
    ItΓÇÖs not even a non-believer, since they can be simply
    agnostic.
    o Yenski
    Truthfully though, there can never really be a TRUE
    atheist either then, as you can never KNOW that there is
    no god, scientifically speaking.
    # lorriman
    For that reason you canΓÇÖt be a reasonable atheist.
    There are plenty of atheists claiming mere ΓÇÿlack of
    beliefΓÇÖ but then indulging in that gigantic and
    inexcusable presumption of labelling religious
    belief a delusion, betraying that they do indeed
    believe there is no god.
    @ Yenski
    Wha?
    I am an atheist, because I do not believe in a
    god. There is no scientific way to PROVE this,
    so I have to go with the best science there is,
    which shows that it is extremely unlikely.
    Science can prove things, but you canΓÇÖt prove
    something DOESNΓÇÖT exist. ThereΓÇÖs always a
    shadow of a doubt.
    - lorriman
    Sure, but the proper definition of an
    atheist is ΓÇ£To deny the gods/godΓÇ¥, which
    is a belief that there isnΓÇÖt a god. So
    youΓÇÖre not really an atheist, unless you
    believe the muddle of definitions in
    Wikipedia, of course. 🙂 The OED also
    recently inserted ΓÇÿto disbelieveΓÇÖ in to
    their definition so its a bit of a screw
    up. Historically, and atheist was defined
    as positively believing there was no god.
    Since there are only three states in
    respect of a god ΓÇô belief that there is
    one, lack of belief, belief that there
    isnΓÇÖt one -that made sense. Else there is
    no functional word for those who believe
    that there is no god.
    = Yenski
    a┬╖the┬╖ist
    ??TH??st/
    noun
    noun: atheist; plural noun: atheists
    a person who disbelieves or lacks
    belief in the existence of God or
    gods.
    I see nothing about the need to PROVE
    that there isnΓÇÖt a god.
    * lorriman
    Judging people by standards they donΓÇÖt recognise and would, indeed,
    reject, and that retrospectively, is pretty silly.
    Or simple presumption: ΓÇ£Mother Teresa had a hard line stance on
    abortion, contraception and divorce, except where her Friends were
    concerned.ΓÇ¥
    ….with a slur using Indira Ghandi and presuming on the facts and
    details, none supplied, that is highly presumptive.
    * stargazeman
    More Hillary Clinton, Left Wing rooted Hate towards all things
    Mother Teresa…they hate the good Mother because she hated abortion
    and preached Christianity…the two no no’s of all things Left and
    Loony…that bunch is evil, awful and I have unfriended, in person,
    all who are of that persuassion…they’re just that far gone, like
    Jesse Jackson says “No Hope with the Dope”…go away you evil people

    btw, leftists give very very little of their own money, time, or
    energy towards anyone or thing outside of their own domains.
    Remember that when you read these kinds of stories….
    + Canis Dirus
    IΓÇÖm an Independent, and I invite you to disprove what the
    article says. ItΓÇÖs pretty accurate.
    * Noelle Obcarskas
    why is there a picture of a medic covered in blood smiling and
    rubbing his hands together ? is this just a picture intending us to
    think that is how mother teresa thought and acted ? seems the
    picture is just a strong reminder of the MOTIVE of the article…to
    discredit and make out someone who spoke out for the poor to make
    us all more aware since we all live in comforts ourselves in
    comparison..was actually someone who CREATED and promoted suffering
    rather than givving dying people a loving hand to hold..in
    circumstances that not even that was on offer otherwise. to me…that
    picture is horrible..a medic covered in blood rubbing their hands
    and madly smiling…a picture tells a thousand words…
    + Yankie
    Come on, itΓÇÖs just a picture, stick to the FACTS and stop
    trying to defend Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu!
    * Bindu Puthur Simon
    haha.. funny article and captions.. just focused only on creating
    defaming news based on imagination. I would add one more.. she used
    to kill people at midnight. why dont you add?
    * Tath_Ngui
    Misogyny acquires so many forms. None of these critics ever lifted
    a hand to help a soul in need. These idiots, mostly men are
    intimidated by a ferocious four feet five little lady whose vision
    transformed and still transforms the lives of millions. She lived
    by her values, her faith, her bold courage and capacity to speak
    truth to power in the kindest most gentle ways. The worst form of
    bullies also wait for their target to die. How pathetic!
    + Yenski
    Actually, if you can read before judging, you will see that
    OFTEN, people donated time and money to these natural
    disasters through Mother TeresaΓÇÖs charity, only to have little
    of it actually used. All she did was embezzle. Her charity
    didnΓÇÖt MAKE money. How would it? People in the area werenΓÇÖt
    even Christians for the most part.
    The church is canonizing her because they too gain from
    promoting her image. That, and she spread Christianity like a
    cancer into India, despite their earlier implied resistance.
    o The Whalens
    Actually, if YOU can read before judging, you would KNOW
    that if everyone followed the TEN COMMANDMENTS, and aimed
    to live their lives like that of Christ, this world would
    have very few problems. But, youΓÇÖre not interested in
    solving the worldΓÇÖs problems are you, Yenski? In your
    twisted mind, doing such a thing would mean an end to
    your freedom. To live like Christ is to be FREE FROM SIN,
    not the other way around.
    # BunnyLuv Mac
    To live like the Christ would be to be a vegan
    animal rights activist. Read Genesis regarding diet
    and all the old books not in the Bible to see His
    love for animals. Are YOU a vegan animal rights
    activist?
    # Yenski
    To "live like Christ" as you put it, would mean
    following a lot of laws that you yourself donΓÇÖt
    follow. Because they are stupid, outdated, and
    ill-conceived.
    What example of following the ten-commandments do
    you have that would lead us to a better world? There
    is no mention that rape, slavery, torture or
    kidnapping are bad in this first of ten
    commandments. They also say nothing of love or
    charity. Remember that they are shown TWICE in the
    bible, but are different each time, unless you
    believe Matthew (Matthew 19:18-Matthew 19:19 6
    commandments) Mark (Mark 10:19 6 commandments) or
    Luke (Luke 18:20 5 commandments). Either way, the
    second set of tablets is, while described as
    identical, completely different.
    Assuming the most well-known is correct, letΓÇÖs
    presume my grandparents were Christians, but my
    parents were atheists. Where would that put me in
    God's plan? Am I one of the thousands of generations
    to be praised, or one of the four generations to be
    shunned?
    Keeping the Sabbath holy how is this to be taken
    into account for leap years and such? Am I to eat
    only unleavened bread during this time or not?
    Lastly, the church you pray in. Do you use unhewn
    stones? I thought the use of tooled stone would make
    it a defilement when you burned your sheep goats and
    cattle, which were prescribed as the ONLY good
    offerings to the lord.

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    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint


    yep she was a bad person.
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    Bullshit. She was a saint.

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    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint
    How was she NOT a Saint?
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    On 2016-09-15 11:57 AM, Gryphon wrote:
    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint

    By listland -
    February 18, 2015

    Top 10 Reasons Mother Teresa Was No Saint: 10 Misconceptions about
    Mother Teresa

    Mother Teresa known and celebrated worldwide as the Albanian Nun who
    received a calling to work with the poor in the slums of Calcutta.
    Even now, many years after her death, her name is synonymous with
    charity, with love and care of the poor. She was honored with the
    Nobel Prize for Peace and, shortly after her death the Vatican started
    an accelerated process for her canonization.

    Significant controversy surrounds her life and her missionary work.
    Here we list the top 10 reasons why Mother Teresa was not a saint and
    why claims about her life and work should be treated with caution.

    10 Mother Teresa’s Home for the Dying provides abysmal medical
    care.


    Mother Teresa was no saint because her home for the dying provided
    terrible medical care Mother Teresa was no saint because her home for
    the dying provided terrible medical care

    Mother Teresa received a vision from God telling her to help the poor
    while living among them. Following some very basic medical training
    Mother Teresa started to look after the ‘poorest among the poor’.,
    those who were dying, destitute on the streets in the slums of
    Calcutta. In 1952 her Missionaries of Charity organization started
    her Kalighat Home for the Dying – a place where people could come to
    die in dignity and comfort. She wanted to make it possible for ‘people
    who lived like animals to die like angels – loved and wanted’.

    When qualified doctors visited the home, however they found that the
    medical care provided was very poor. Most of the volunteers had no
    medical knowledge and yet had to make medical decisions because there
    were no doctors available. There was no distinction made between those
    who were suffering from curable and incurable illnesses so people who
    might have survived had they been given access to treatment were left
    to die. Needles were re-used so many times that they became blunt and
    they were not sterilized between uses. In 1981 when the state of care
    in her facilities was challenged she said ‘There is something beautiful
    in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ’s
    Passion. The world gains much from their suffering’. This shows a
    very cynical use of the poor to further the ends of others.

    There was no proper pain management, meaning people suffered in
    needless pain while they died. Mother Teresa promoted this suffering
    as she felt that it was of benefit to suffer in this world for a better
    life in heaven. She is reputed to have once told someone dying in pain
    ‘you are suffering, that means Jesus is kissing you’. It is not known
    whether the sufferer was even Christian but probably not, he screamed
    back, in pain and distressed ‘tell your Jesus to stop kissing me’.

    With regard to her own medical treatment Mother Teresa received only
    the best. Although she made public shows of declining free high
    quality medical treatment she nevertheless had no compunctions about
    secretly accepting medical care from some of the best institutions in
    the world including having cataract surgery and having a pace maker
    installed. When the time came for her to be ‘kissed by Jesus’ she did
    not die in one of her own homes for the dying and was not treated with
    blunt needles. She passed to meet her maker in the very best
    of medical facilities.

    9 Mother Teresa’s goal was missionary work not helping the
    poor.
    Mother Teresa would rather be a missionary rather than help poor people
    Mother Teresa would rather be a missionary rather than help poor people

    Despite the extensive donations to Mother Teresa’s homes only a few
    hundred people are helped at any one time. At the time she accepted
    her Nobel Prize for Peace Mother Teresa claimed to have helped about
    36,000 people in Calcutta, the reality is that the Missionaries of
    Charity have helped about 5-700 people. A survey of charitable
    organizations operating in Calcutta in 1998 did not even rank her homes
    in the top 200. Some of the Missionaries of Charity homes are used, not
    to treat people but to try to persuade them to convert to Catholicism.

    There have been well documented cases of people trying to access the
    services of Mother Teresa’s house for the dying but being turned away.
    In one instance in 1979, shortly before the Nobel Peace Prize ceremony,
    a well-known Calcuttan intellectual, Jyotirmoy Datta, tried to obtain
    the assistance of the House of the Dying for a destitute he found on
    the street. He spoke to Mother Teresa herself who refused to help.

    Mother Teresa’s organization received and receives extensive donations
    which would enable them to transform the homes for the dying into
    modern, clean hospices that provide a decent level of palliative care.
    Mother Teresa was not, however, interested in mitigating suffering so
    much as celebrating it. As such she concentrated on opening new
    Missionaries of Charity convents and homes in many different locations
    around the world as opposed to channeling its extensive funds into
    their existing homes for the benefit of the people they claimed to be
    trying to help.

    8 Mother Teresa’s Missionaries of Charity baptized the dying
    without their permission.
    Mother Teresa's minions baptized people without their permission Mother
    Teresa’s minions baptized people without their permission

    The Missionaries of Charity operate in Calcutta where the majority of
    people are Hindu or Muslim. Mother Teresa claimed that the
    Missionaries of Charity gave the dying the rituals of their faith.

    However, in 1992, on a visit to the Vatican she claimed that she and
    her sisters gave the dying a special ‘Ticket to St Peter’ by baptizing
    them. In essence all who were dying (and probably in pain, incoherent
    and incapable of making a rational decision) were asked if they wanted
    a blessing, their sins forgiven and to see God. It is not clear if
    this offer was worded so as to make it clear that the offer came with
    regard to the Christian God or if the offer was made at the same time
    that they were given the comforts of their own faith. Most people
    agreed to this forgiveness, their head was then covered in a wet cloth
    and the formula for adult baptism repeated very quietly

    To impose a religion on someone, to convert them covertly is not the
    actions of a saint. Surely if someone’s mortal soul is in peril it
    would be better to arrange for instruction in the religion and allow
    people to come to their faith naturally.

    7 Mother Teresa’s Missionaries of Charity Organization has
    shady finances

    Mother Teresa's finances allegedly were not above board Mother Teresa’s
    finances allegedly were not above board

    Under Indian Law all charities are required to publish their accounts
    but the Missionaries of Charity have never complied with this
    requirement. In Germany, when the Missionaries of Charity were asked
    how much money they had they responded that ‘it’s nobody’s business’

    In New York a former Sister with the Missionaries of Charity said that
    in one year the organization banked $50million, she thought that the
    organization’s receipts worldwide would amount to somewhere in
    the region of $100m annually.

    There equally appears to be no record of expenditures made by the
    Missionaries of Charity, indeed wherever possible they rely on
    donations – of food, clothing, buildings etc to cover their start up
    and operating costs. It appears that a significant portion of the
    monies were deposited at the Vatican Bank in Rome and not used to
    improve the houses of the dying, the orphanages or other charitable
    operations of the order. Saving not spending money appears to have
    been a goal in itself even when the money was plentiful and could have
    been used to ameliorate suffering and improve conditions for those
    living in the very worst of conditions. New missions are given start
    up assistance from the order but are then expected to be
    completely self –sufficient.

    Many philanthropic organizations exist in order to use money to improve
    the life of others. The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is a typical
    example. It uses its funds to help improve the lives that people lead,
    regardless of where they are or how they worship – the foundation is
    predicated on the belief that every life has equal value. Its finances
    are properly regulated, transparent and applied effectively. Unlike
    the Missionaries of Charity who hide away their money and promote
    suffering as noble, admirable philanthropic organizations like the Bill
    and Melinda Gates Foundation help people to make the most of the life
    they have.

    6 Mother Teresa took money from known fraudsters and refused
    to refund it – even when this refusal caused real harm to innocent
    people.

    Mother Teresa was happy to accept donations from any source – even when
    the source in question was a reprehensible con-man. She received
    significant donations from Charles Keating, a leading American catholic
    and anti-pornography protestor who was convicted and imprisoned for
    fraud when his Savings and Loan Association collapsed leaving 23,000
    investors with worthless bonds and from Robert Maxwell who stole £450m
    from the pension fund of his employees. Although it appears that she
    was not aware of their activities prior to the scandals association
    with the men she showed little concern for the suffering their actions
    caused; she believed that the donation of funds could salve the
    conscience of those who donated them.

    Mother Teresa wrote to the judge requesting leniency for Keating
    because he had made donations to the Missionaries of Charity. The
    Deputy District Attorney wrote to her explaining exactly what Keating
    had done in defrauding small investors of their life savings. Mother
    Teresa refused to reply to that letter. Sadly because of the shady
    finances of her organization it is impossible to tell whether the money
    was put to good use which would at least provide some small comfort to
    the people whose lives were ruined. From the poor conditions in her
    House of the Dying and the lack of support given to missions worldwide
    it would seem these people lost their money for no good reason.

    5 As well as consorting with fraudsters Mother Teresa was
    friends with the leaders of some of the most reprehensible political
    regimes in the world.

    Mother Teresa associated with really shady characters. Duvalier regime
    in Haiti. Mother Teresa associated with really shady characters.
    Duvalier regime in Haiti.

    Mother Teresa was an admirer of the Duvalier regime in Haiti. The rule
    of ‘Papa’ and ‘Baby’ Doc was known, worldwide, to be brutally
    oppressive and incredibly cruel to the people of the impoverished
    country. Both were known to live a lavish lifestyle at the expense of
    the people of Haiti, to allow the torture and murder of their
    detractors and to be involved in the underground trade in both drugs
    and body parts. Nevertheless Mother Teresa had no compunctions about
    accepting an award from Baby Doc and to say of the Duvaliers that they
    ‘love their poor and their love was reciprocated.’

    Mother Teresa did not confine her controversial actions to Haiti. When
    she returned to her homeland of Albania in 1989 she visited the widow
    of the former communist Dictator Enver Hoxha and laid flowers on his
    grave. She spent time with many communist party officials and at no
    time used her visit to condemn the human rights abuses of the communist
    regime or their brutal suppression of religion. Even if the reality
    was that she could not make any negative comments during her visit she
    could have used her position to make comments and condemnations from
    abroad.

    4 Mother Teresa had a hard line stance on abortion,
    contraception and divorce, except where her Friends were concerned.

    Mother Teresa was a hard-line pro-lifer Mother Teresa was a hard-line
    pro-lifer

    Mother Teresa did not believe in supporting those deciding whether or
    not they had to terminate their pregnancies – she wanted only to
    condemn them whatever their circumstances. When she accepted her Nobel
    Prize for Peace she said ‘Abortion is the worst evil and the greatest
    enemy of peace, If a mother can kill her own child, what will prevent us
    from killing ourselves or one another? Nothing.’

    Her stance was completely hardline with no exceptions even in the most
    mitigating of circumstances. In 1971 the Indo-Pakistan War led to many
    atrocities including the rape of over 450,000 Hindu women by Pakistani
    soldiers. Rather than supporting them in coming to terms with the
    abuse they had suffered or condemning the atrocities perpetrated
    against them she chose to speak only on the question of abortion. For
    Mother Teresa felt that there should be no choice of whether or not to
    keep the babies of such a crime she called, very publicly for the
    victims to keep the babies. She held fast to this belief her entire
    life; in 1993 she condemned a 14 year old rape victim in Ireland for
    seeking an abortion. Indeed she had no problems travelling around the
    world specifically to prevent individual cases of abortion and to help
    anti-abortion campaigns to influence the government policy on abortion
    in many countries around the world.

    While no one could question her personal feelings on the sanctity of
    life she was not the person suffering in these circumstances, she was
    not the person facing the choice and, in the case of the Hindu women
    was speaking from a religious view point that was not applicable to
    them. Her views were not, however, immutable. When her close friend
    Indira Ghandi imposed a state of emergency in India, suspending the
    constitution and instituting a reign of terror against her detractors
    Mother Teresa publicly supported her. This support did not waiver even
    when Indira Ghandi’s regime started a campaign for the forced
    sterilization of the poor.

    Mother Teresa was as passionately anti divorce as she was
    anti-abortion. She believed that marriages were sanctified by God. At
    the time the country was considering legalizing divorce Mother
    Teresa wrote to the people of Ireland telling them that ‘If a father
    and mother are not willing to give until it hurts to be faithful to
    each other, and to their children they are not showing their children
    what it means to love…These children will grow up to be spiritually
    poor’. However, when her good friend Princess Diana obtained her
    divorce from Prince Charles Mother Teresa praised the divorce as a good
    thing because the love had left the marriage, there was no thought
    given to the spiritual poverty in which her children would grow up. No
    condemnation as there would have been for an ordinary Irish couple
    looking for a divorce.

    3 Mother Teresa was rarely in Calcutta preferring to fly
    around the world to promote her opinions.

    Mother Teresa the real Flying Nun. She'd rather be up in the air than
    on the ground in calcutta helping the poor Mother Teresa the real
    Flying Nun. She’d rather be up in the air than on the ground in
    Calcutta helping the poor

    Whether it was anti-abortion campaigning in the US or Japan or
    convincing the people of Ireland to vote against the legalization of
    divorce Mother Teresa spent a lot of time traveling around the world to
    promote her beliefs and the work of her Missionaries of Charity.

    She was not well known in Calcutta, she used the poverty of the city as
    a background to her work and media image but she spent very little time
    interacting with other social or cultural institutions. Even her
    spiritual advisor Edward Le Jolly confirmed in his book on Mother
    Teresa that she was in Calcutta only infrequently. While away she
    would often say she was unhappy to be absent from Calcutta but she
    typically would spent time in Rome following a trip abroad instead of
    returning directly to India.

    2 Mother Teresa liked to be seen to help but provided very
    little actual help.

    As mentioned above Mother Teresa helped only a fraction of the people
    she claimed to have taken from the streets of Calcutta. She liked to
    be seen to be present at huge disasters. When the Union Carbide plant
    in Bhopal became the site of the largest ever industrial accident in
    the world Mother Teresa lost no time in flying down there to be
    photographed. On seeing the carnage she exhorted the victims to
    forgiveness before starting a tour of the hospitals to ‘help’. She
    visited some of the survivors but the Missionaries of Charity failed to
    direct any of their extensive funds to the local mission which would
    have enabled them to engage in and provide concrete assistance to the
    afflicted.

    When the 1993 earthquake of Latur killed 8,000 people and left 5m
    people homeless Mother Teresa failed to direct any of her Missionaries
    of Charity nun or volunteers to help nor did she make any funds
    available for re-building although many other charities in India, of
    many religious denominations and non, did participate in the relief
    effort. Nevertheless Mother Teresa had no difficulty in posing for
    photographs showing her presenting the deeds of new houses to some of
    the people of Latur. That same year India was struck with an outbreak
    of Bubonic Plague. Despite having no involvement in treating the
    victims Mother Teresa was photographed entering ‘quarantine’ on arrival
    in Rome, the photographs were then sent worldwide to promote the belief
    that she had been struggling to help deal with the outbreak.

    1 There have been no miracles attributed to Mother Teresa

    There is a very strict process that he Catholic Church has to follow in
    order to declare someone a saint. Typically investigations cannot
    start until five years after a person’s death in order for any hysteria
    surrounding a much loved person to die down. The Catholic Church
    fast-tracked the process of canonization, starting the process within
    less than two years of Mother Teresa’s death and she was beatified in
    2003.

    Beatification, the first step to full sainthood requires the
    performance of a miracle. In 2002 the Catholic Church recognized that
    Mother Teresa had cured an Indian woman of an abdominal tumor a year
    after her death after Missionaries of Charity prayed for Mother
    Teresa’s help and applied a locket with her picture in it to the site
    of the tumor.

    While the woman believed that Mother Teresa cured her it appears that
    her doctors say that she was not suffering from a tumor but from a cyst
    which was cured by the medicines prescribed by the local hospital. The
    woman’s medical notes are in the possession of the Missionaries of
    Charity who refuse to release them. Doctors at the local hospital have
    claimed to have been subjected to pressure from the Catholic Church to
    declare the cure a ‘miracle’.

    So was Mother Teresa a Saint or was she a hard-nosed public relations
    specialist who used her status as a charitable icon to travel the
    world, rubbing shoulders with a dubious elite and pushing her own
    beliefs on abortion, contraception and divorce (extreme even for the
    Catholic Church). Was she an angel of mercy providing tender care to
    the poorest of the poor in their last moments of suffering or did she
    glorify that suffering and see it as a benefit in and of itself. Did
    she help tens of thousands of poor around the world or provide
    assistance to a few hundred as a front to her missionary organization?
    Has she performed miracles or are ordinary events being manipulated to
    make us think she has? What is indisputable is that, in stark contrast
    to properly managed and transparent philanthropic institutions, despite
    the extensive donations to the Missionaries of Charity, the assistance
    they provide is as limited in terms of care and medical aid as it was
    when Mother Teresa started her organization. Whatever the truth,
    questions should be asked and answers given.

    * Katia Winnicka
    Any evidence?
    + listland
    Check out all the links within the text of the post (now in
    bold).
    + OsoBossHogg
    don’t need any evidence. this is my faith.
    o Nicolet Foster
    My faith is in the fairy princess riding a unicorn in
    space, now disprove it, or it’s real… that is your logic
    and that is exactly how crazy you people sound.
    * CumExApostolatus
    This woman was simply part of the false ecumenical scam perpetrated
    on the world, by the elite, in order to help bring about the new
    world religion. That’s why she never actively converted anyone. She
    didn’t have the Catholic faith and therefore felt no urgency to
    teach the faith and convert those willing to be converted. I can’t
    understand why the adulation for this woman. In this ‘media age’
    people are so easily duped.
    * PaulMurrayCbr
    Mother Teresa was farming the poor for the “grace†that their
    suffering produced. The people writhing in pain in her “hospitalsâ€
    were basically dairy cows. The grace milked from these people was
    used to fill her beatification vat in heaven, as well as for paying
    bribes to various – shall we say – entities.
    The money was incidental. The only issue was that it was important
    that it not go to updating her so-called hospitals. And pain relief
    or medical treatment would have impacted the quality and quantity
    of grace she was getting .
    + listland
    Whoa. Milked the grace.
    * practical intellectual
    Seems slated to me. Most of what you say is anti catholic or
    unsustainable.
    + listland
    Do you mean slanted and unsubstantiated? There are plenty of
    sources in the body of the article.
    * Shanti-Ananda
    Being a child that came from her orphanage and was blessed by her,
    you have stepped way out of line!
    + listland
    How? Do you disagree with our author’s post? About what
    exactly?
    * Laurie Mitchell
    Great article, thank you. I’ve been reading the same thing
    elsewhere on the internet and am shocked and disappointed with MT.
    It all makes sense, and I’m just sorry for her victims. You lay out
    the facts with sources (plus many other reputable sources agree),
    so why is she still so revered???
    * fufhertoo .
    This article and everything in it is a complete sham perpetuated by
    your atheistic hatred of God and religion. How do you attack a
    woman who gave her whole life, spent her whole life serving the
    poorest of the poor. She was not called to convert the hindus, she
    was not called to cure. She was called to love and to let people
    that were considered the lowest of the caste system, those deemed
    wretched, that were literally left to die in the streets, she
    picked those people up and cleaned their wounds and let them die in
    a bed with dignity. She was the first, the very first person to
    open a hospice in New York City for Aids patients, at a time when
    no one would care for them or touch them out of fear for their own
    well being. She did not judge these people. She loved these people
    as children of God. And if she took money from anyone who you view
    as sleazy, then so be it. The money was going to the poor and may
    have been the only redeeming act of good will from those of
    questionable character that you list. Many of her detractors like
    you may be quick to point to her faults, but your kind is never
    able to really accomplish anything but stir anger, hatred and
    division. Countless charities with no religious affiliation aimed
    at working with the poor in Kolkata have come and gone, but the
    missionaries of charity remain. Do you wonder why your efforts seem
    so fruitless, its because you can’t give what you don’t have.
    Without love, cannit accomplish the miraculous. You are the poorest
    of the poor spiritually and blind at that.
    + Barbara Fitzgerald
    I agree with you. Mother Teresa never called herself a saint.
    In fact she admitted she doubted her faith often. How
    wonderful to hear that – a real human – like the rest of us.
    We are all called to be like her. Perhaps not perfect, but
    through our struggles always trying to be the person God wants
    us to be.
    + Adi
    Not providing adequate “medical†attention and treatment to
    people who could have been cured is criminal abuse. That is
    what she did.
    o veritas101
    Yeah, your right. I suppose she should have just left all
    of those people to die in the street abandoned and alone,
    according to your logic. We are talking about India, a
    third world country with a caste system that has a far
    different reality that what we have in the United States.
    People in the slums have zero access to clinical
    treatment, nor are there enough medical practitioners to
    treat all of the ill and dying in these areas. The demand
    is greater than what is available and the upper classes
    do not mix with the poorest of the poor.
    # Adi
    I am from India, lived in kolkata, place of theresa.
    Half of what you said is factually wrong. Other half
    can’t justify running natural death camps like
    theresa did. She could have atleast given them free
    medicines that govt distribute. but no, her “faithâ€
    didn’t allow for that. What is the good in bringing
    in a curable patient from the streets and then let
    him die by not giving medical treatment? Lot of
    other NGOs are treating the poor patients
    # Scipio Americanus
    Sounds just like America with its upper crust elite
    and it’s lower class common people who cannot afford
    the health care that the wealthy believe is there
    for them exclusively. Just because the caste system
    in India has existed longer does not mean that the
    entitled of America do not look upon the lower
    classes as beneath them .
    + Rudolph
    Well written. Thank you.
    * Lee
    Not only was Mother Teresa the worlds biggest con artist ,she was
    an atheist who lost her faith in religion thirty years before her
    death. She lived in luxury except when taking fund raising photos.
    + lorriman
    An atheist isn’t someone who is either merely doubting or
    being tempted to doubt.
    It’s not even a non-believer, since they can be simply
    agnostic.
    o Yenski
    Truthfully though, there can never really be a TRUE
    atheist either then, as you can never KNOW that there is
    no god, scientifically speaking.
    # lorriman
    For that reason you can’t be a reasonable atheist.
    There are plenty of atheists claiming mere ‘lack of
    belief’ but then indulging in that gigantic and
    inexcusable presumption of labelling religious
    belief a delusion, betraying that they do indeed
    believe there is no god.
    @ Yenski
    Wha?
    I am an atheist, because I do not believe in a
    god. There is no scientific way to PROVE this,
    so I have to go with the best science there is,
    which shows that it is extremely unlikely.
    Science can prove things, but you can’t prove
    something DOESN’T exist. There’s always a
    shadow of a doubt.
    - lorriman
    Sure, but the proper definition of an
    atheist is “To deny the gods/godâ€, which
    is a belief that there isn’t a god. So
    you’re not really an atheist, unless you
    believe the muddle of definitions in
    Wikipedia, of course. 🙂 The OED also
    recently inserted ‘to disbelieve’ in to
    their definition so its a bit of a screw
    up. Historically, and atheist was defined
    as positively believing there was no god.
    Since there are only three states in
    respect of a god – belief that there is
    one, lack of belief, belief that there
    isn’t one -that made sense. Else there is
    no functional word for those who believe
    that there is no god.
    = Yenski
    a·the·ist
    ??TH??st/
    noun
    noun: atheist; plural noun: atheists
    a person who disbelieves or lacks
    belief in the existence of God or
    gods.
    I see nothing about the need to PROVE
    that there isn’t a god.
    * lorriman
    Judging people by standards they don’t recognise and would, indeed,
    reject, and that retrospectively, is pretty silly.
    Or simple presumption: “Mother Teresa had a hard line stance on
    abortion, contraception and divorce, except where her Friends were
    concerned.â€
    ….with a slur using Indira Ghandi and presuming on the facts and
    details, none supplied, that is highly presumptive.
    * stargazeman
    More Hillary Clinton, Left Wing rooted Hate towards all things
    Mother Teresa…they hate the good Mother because she hated abortion
    and preached Christianity…the two no no’s of all things Left and
    Loony…that bunch is evil, awful and I have unfriended, in person,
    all who are of that persuassion…they’re just that far gone, like
    Jesse Jackson says “No Hope with the Dopeâ€â€¦go away you evil people

    btw, leftists give very very little of their own money, time, or
    energy towards anyone or thing outside of their own domains.
    Remember that when you read these kinds of stories….
    + Canis Dirus
    I’m an Independent, and I invite you to disprove what the
    article says. It’s pretty accurate.
    * Noelle Obcarskas
    why is there a picture of a medic covered in blood smiling and
    rubbing his hands together ? is this just a picture intending us to
    think that is how mother teresa thought and acted ? seems the
    picture is just a strong reminder of the MOTIVE of the article…to
    discredit and make out someone who spoke out for the poor to make
    us all more aware since we all live in comforts ourselves in
    comparison..was actually someone who CREATED and promoted suffering
    rather than givving dying people a loving hand to hold..in
    circumstances that not even that was on offer otherwise. to me…that
    picture is horrible..a medic covered in blood rubbing their hands
    and madly smiling…a picture tells a thousand words…
    + Yankie
    Come on, it’s just a picture, stick to the FACTS and stop
    trying to defend Agnes Gonxha Bojaxhiu!
    * Bindu Puthur Simon
    haha.. funny article and captions.. just focused only on creating
    defaming news based on imagination. I would add one more.. she used
    to kill people at midnight. why dont you add?
    * Tath_Ngui
    Misogyny acquires so many forms. None of these critics ever lifted
    a hand to help a soul in need. These idiots, mostly men are
    intimidated by a ferocious four feet five little lady whose vision
    transformed and still transforms the lives of millions. She lived
    by her values, her faith, her bold courage and capacity to speak
    truth to power in the kindest most gentle ways. The worst form of
    bullies also wait for their target to die. How pathetic!
    + Yenski
    Actually, if you can read before judging, you will see that
    OFTEN, people donated time and money to these natural
    disasters through Mother Teresa’s charity, only to have little
    of it actually used. All she did was embezzle. Her charity
    didn’t MAKE money. How would it? People in the area weren’t
    even Christians for the most part.
    The church is canonizing her because they too gain from
    promoting her image. That, and she spread Christianity like a
    cancer into India, despite their earlier implied resistance.
    o The Whalens
    Actually, if YOU can read before judging, you would KNOW
    that if everyone followed the TEN COMMANDMENTS, and aimed
    to live their lives like that of Christ, this world would
    have very few problems. But, you’re not interested in
    solving the world’s problems are you, Yenski? In your
    twisted mind, doing such a thing would mean an end to
    your freedom. To live like Christ is to be FREE FROM SIN,
    not the other way around.
    # BunnyLuv Mac
    To live like the Christ would be to be a vegan
    animal rights activist. Read Genesis regarding diet
    and all the old books not in the Bible to see His
    love for animals. Are YOU a vegan animal rights
    activist?
    # Yenski
    To "live like Christ" as you put it, would mean
    following a lot of laws that you yourself don’t
    follow. Because they are stupid, outdated, and
    ill-conceived.
    What example of following the ten-commandments do
    you have that would lead us to a better world? There
    is no mention that rape, slavery, torture or
    kidnapping are bad in this first of ten
    commandments. They also say nothing of love or
    charity. Remember that they are shown TWICE in the
    bible, but are different each time, unless you
    believe Matthew (Matthew 19:18-Matthew 19:19 6
    commandments) Mark (Mark 10:19 6 commandments) or
    Luke (Luke 18:20 5 commandments). Either way, the
    second set of tablets is, while described as
    identical, completely different.
    Assuming the most well-known is correct, let’s
    presume my grandparents were Christians, but my
    parents were atheists. Where would that put me in
    God's plan? Am I one of the thousands of generations
    to be praised, or one of the four generations to be
    shunned?
    Keeping the Sabbath holy how is this to be taken
    into account for leap years and such? Am I to eat
    only unleavened bread during this time or not?
    Lastly, the church you pray in. Do you use unhewn
    stones? I thought the use of tooled stone would make
    it a defilement when you burned your sheep goats and
    cattle, which were prescribed as the ONLY good
    offerings to the lord.

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    "Mother Teresa was as passionately anti divorce" Duh, In Catholicism
    divorce is not allowed, only under certain circumstances. Like really.
    This post is a load of bs. Just hate, that's all it is.

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  • From Gryphon@VERT to Meh on Fri Nov 18 15:46:00 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 11/18/16, Meh said the following...

    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Darkages to Gryphon on Fri Nov 18 2016 06:55 pm
    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint
    How was she NOT a Saint?

    I guess you didn't read the article.

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  • From Gryphon@VERT to Darkages on Fri Nov 18 15:46:00 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 11/18/16, Darkages said the following...

    On 2016-09-15 11:57 AM, Gryphon wrote:
    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint
    (Had to remove the body as the NNTP server won't allow a long message
    (in this case a reply to a quoted message)

    Bullshit. She was a saint.

    Settle down.

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  • From Meh@VERT to Gryphon on Fri Nov 18 17:11:58 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Fri Nov 18 2016 03:46 pm

    I guess you didn't read the article.
    Obviously you like to copy and paste bullshit from Google.
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  • From Mro@VERT to Darkages on Fri Nov 18 20:01:01 2016
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    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Darkages to Gryphon on Fri Nov 18 2016 06:55 pm

    On 2016-09-15 11:57 AM, Gryphon wrote:
    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint

    (Had to remove the body as the NNTP server won't allow a long message
    (in this case a reply to a quoted message)

    Bullshit. She was a saint.


    she was a devil on earth.
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  • From Mro@VERT to All on Fri Nov 18 20:01:39 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Fri Nov 18 2016 03:46 pm

    On 11/18/16, Meh said the following...

    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Darkages to Gryphon on Fri Nov 18 2016 06:55 pm
    10 Misconceptions about Mother Teresa; She was no Saint
    How was she NOT a Saint?

    I guess you didn't read the article.


    also this shit is from last summer
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  • From Gryphon@VERT to Meh on Sat Nov 19 18:17:00 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 11/18/16, Meh said the following...

    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Fri Nov 18 2016 03:46 pm
    I guess you didn't read the article.
    Obviously you like to copy and paste bullshit from Google.

    You obviously don't know how google works. This is a huffington post article.

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Knightmare on Sat Nov 19 21:00:31 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Knightmare to Meh on Sat Nov 19 2016 01:28 am

    So if they didn't copy/paste, how would anyone have seen it? ESP? I don't think Synchronet has that function. No, I'm pretty damn sure it doesn't.


    you can go a text upload with synchronet.
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  • From Meh@VERT/NIMBUS to Gryphon on Sun Nov 20 03:27:18 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Sat Nov 19 2016 06:17 pm

    You obviously don't know how google works. This is a huffington post articl
    Ahhh,the Huffington Post is about as legitimate a news source as The Weekly World News. Nice try.
    Ralph Smole,Sysop.
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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Meh on Sun Nov 20 09:02:40 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Meh to Gryphon on Sun Nov 20 2016 03:27 am


    You obviously don't know how google works. This is a huffington post articl
    Ahhh,the Huffington Post is about as legitimate a news source as The Weekly World News. Nice try.



    ralph, there have been a lot of personal accounts from mother theresa.

    she let people rot and die. she let them suffer to be closer to god. she didnt let people's families visit. she had communist ties.

    it's all out there, seriously. she was a devil of a person.
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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Meh on Mon Nov 21 09:10:00 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 11/20/16, Meh said the following...

    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Sat Nov 19 2016 06:17 pm
    You obviously don't know how google works. This is a huffington post a
    Ahhh,the Huffington Post is about as legitimate a news source as The Weekly World News. Nice try.

    Yeah, I'm sure that to you, if it's not from infowars.com or alex jones, it must be crap.

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Meh on Mon Nov 21 05:12:00 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Sat Nov 19 2016 06:17 pm

    You obviously don't know how google works. This is a huffington post articl
    Ahhh,the Huffington Post is about as legitimate a news source as The Weekly >World News. Nice try.
    Ralph Smole,Sysop.
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    HuffPost is absolute trash for lib-tards. False information and outright lies.

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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Deavmi on Mon Nov 21 10:50:00 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 11/21/16, Deavmi said the following...

    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Sat Nov 19 2016 06:17 pm

    You obviously don't know how google works. This is a huffington post

    Ahhh,the Huffington Post is about as legitimate a news source as The Week >World News. Nice try.
    Ralph Smole,Sysop.
    The Nimbus BBS
    Briar,TX

    HuffPost is absolute trash for lib-tards. False information and outright lies.

    LOL! I guess we know where you land on the issue.

    But that was only one article about MT and her antics.

    https://mukto-mona.com/Articles/mother_teresa/sanal_ed.htm

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2016/09/sadistic-religi ous-fanatic-mother-teresa-was-no-saint/

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/31/asia/mother-teresa-controversies/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2015/02/25/why-to-many-critic s-mother-teresa-is-still-no-saint/

    http://all-that-is-interesting.com/mother-teresa-saint

    http://web.archive.org/web/20160401151627/http://www.nouvelles.umontreal.ca/ude m-news/news/20130301-mother-teresa-anything-but-a-saint.html

    Should I find an Alex Jones article on the subject? Would that satisfy you?

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Gryphon on Mon Nov 21 18:09:40 2016
    Subject: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 2016-11-21 11:10 AM, Gryphon wrote:
    On 11/20/16, Meh said the following...

    Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Gryphon to Meh on Sat Nov 19 2016 06:17 pm
    You obviously don't know how google works. This is a huffington post a
    Ahhh,the Huffington Post is about as legitimate a news source as The Weekly World News. Nice try.

    Yeah, I'm sure that to you, if it's not from infowars.com or alex jones, it must be crap.

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    Nah. Huffinton Post is just a shitty news company.

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  • From Loco@VERT/TUBBS to Deavmi on Fri Dec 9 23:06:28 2016
    Subject: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Mon Nov 21 2016 18:09:40

    Nah. Huffinton Post is just a shitty news company.

    Is even acceptable to mention HuffPo and the word "news" in the same sentence?

    I get my news from many sources, some better than others. HuffPo seems to be where liberals go to stroke one another without the nasty real world intruding on their delusions.

    Speaking of delusions, I also tend to avoid InfoWars. After all, we all know that it was the chemtrails from flying saucers that made Elvis shoot JFK from the grassy knoll. This isnt common knowledge because it has been suppressed by the Illuminati and the CFR using the HAARP facility.

    I will leave you all with the reminder that "it isn't the vote that counts, but who counts the votes".

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Loco on Sat Dec 10 12:26:26 2016
    Subject: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Loco to Deavmi on Fri Dec 09 2016 11:06 pm

    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Mon Nov 21 2016 18:09:40

    Nah. Huffinton Post is just a shitty news company.

    Is even acceptable to mention HuffPo and the word "news" in the same sentence?

    I get my news from many sources, some better than others. HuffPo seems to be where liberals go to stroke one another without the nasty real world intruding on their delusions.

    Speaking of delusions, I also tend to avoid InfoWars. After all, we all know that it was the chemtrails from flying saucers that made Elvis shoot JFK from the grassy knoll. This isnt common knowledge because it has been suppressed by the Illuminati and the CFR using the HAARP facility.

    I will leave you all with the reminder that "it isn't the vote that counts, but who counts the votes".



    no matter where you get your news from, it's all tainted and twisted and it's not factual. no matter how many sources.
    it's not the real story
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  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Mro on Sun Dec 11 13:02:23 2016
    Subject: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 2016-12-10 08:26 PM, Mro wrote:
    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Loco to Deavmi on Fri Dec 09 2016 11:06 pm

    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Mon Nov 21 2016 18:09:40

    Nah. Huffinton Post is just a shitty news company.

    Is even acceptable to mention HuffPo and the word "news" in the same sentence?

    I get my news from many sources, some better than others. HuffPo seems to be where liberals go to stroke one another without the nasty real world intruding on their delusions.

    Speaking of delusions, I also tend to avoid InfoWars. After all, we all know that it was the chemtrails from flying saucers that made Elvis shoot JFK from the grassy knoll. This isnt common knowledge because it has been suppressed by the Illuminati and the CFR using the HAARP facility.

    I will leave you all with the reminder that "it isn't the vote that counts,
    but who counts the votes".



    no matter where you get your news from, it's all tainted and twisted and it's not factual. no matter how many sources.
    it's not the real story
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    Can we drop this topic already. How old is it BTW?

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  • From Mro@VERT/BBSESINF to Deavmi on Sun Dec 11 11:38:44 2016
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    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Deavmi to Mro on Sun Dec 11 2016 01:02 pm

    no matter where you get your news from, it's all tainted and twisted and it's not factual. no matter how many sources.
    it's not the real story

    Can we drop this topic already. How old is it BTW?



    dont know how long the topic is, but the subject is mother theresa.

    you can hit L to list the posts to see how far back they go.

    moonlanding was faked.
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  • From Gryphon@VERT/CYBERIA to Deavmi on Wed Dec 14 12:26:00 2016
    Subject: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 12/11/16, Deavmi said the following...

    On 2016-12-10 08:26 PM, Mro wrote:
    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Loco to Deavmi on Fri Dec 09 2016 11:06 pm

    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Mon Nov 21 2016 18:09:40

    Nah. Huffinton Post is just a shitty news company.

    Is even acceptable to mention HuffPo and the word "news" in the same sentence?

    I get my news from many sources, some better than others. HuffPo see be where liberals go to stroke one another without the nasty real wor intruding on their delusions.

    Speaking of delusions, I also tend to avoid InfoWars. After all, we know that it was the chemtrails from flying saucers that made Elvis s JFK from the grassy knoll. This isnt common knowledge because it has suppressed by the Illuminati and the CFR using the HAARP facility.

    I will leave you all with the reminder that "it isn't the vote that c

    but who counts the votes".



    no matter where you get your news from, it's all tainted and twisted and not factual. no matter how many sources.
    it's not the real story
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    Can we drop this topic already. How old is it BTW?
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    We can drop it when you stop quoting the entire message, including tagline, tearlines and unrelated discussions, when you reply with a single sentence.

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  • From Deavmi@VERT/EWBBS to Gryphon on Thu Dec 15 10:20:59 2016
    Subject: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    On 2016-12-14 02:26 PM, Gryphon wrote:
    On 12/11/16, Deavmi said the following...

    On 2016-12-10 08:26 PM, Mro wrote:
    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Loco to Deavmi on Fri Dec 09 2016 11:06 pm

    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Mon Nov 21 2016 18:09:40

    Nah. Huffinton Post is just a shitty news company.

    Is even acceptable to mention HuffPo and the word "news" in the same
    sentence?

    I get my news from many sources, some better than others. HuffPo see
    be where liberals go to stroke one another without the nasty real wor
    intruding on their delusions.

    Speaking of delusions, I also tend to avoid InfoWars. After all, we
    know that it was the chemtrails from flying saucers that made Elvis s
    JFK from the grassy knoll. This isnt common knowledge because it has
    suppressed by the Illuminati and the CFR using the HAARP facility.

    I will leave you all with the reminder that "it isn't the vote that c

    but who counts the votes".



    no matter where you get your news from, it's all tainted and twisted and
    not factual. no matter how many sources.
    it's not the real story
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    Can we drop this topic already. How old is it BTW?
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    We can drop it when you stop quoting the entire message, including tagline, tearlines and unrelated discussions, when you reply with a single sentence.

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  • From Loco@VERT/TUBBS to Deavmi on Fri Dec 16 22:48:09 2016
    Subject: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
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    Re: Re: Mother Theresa was no saint
    By: Deavmi to Gryphon on Thu Dec 15 2016 10:20:59

    Interesting. On the "Religion" sub:

    Previous topic was basically "Bash the Catholic hero"

    One person is unhappy because the current topic isn't the one which they feel is important.

    Another is unhappy because the same message keeps getting repeated with minimal variation.

    I'm sitting here thinking that it sounds like another Sunday morning in church...

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