wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Oh I bet Corey. Running PCB was a great bbs but a pain to write code for
extra options similar to Virtual Advanced BBS.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █


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■ Synchronet ■ Park Avenue Place - parkave.synchro.net

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Tue Mar 29 2011 09:03 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Oh I bet Corey. Running PCB was a great bbs but a pain to write code for extra options similar to Virtual Advanced BBS.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

it looks like each programmer only had access to thier sections.
I do like the way all the important stuff is library calls thou.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 12:49 am

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Tue Mar 29 2011 09:03 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Oh I bet Corey. Running PCB was a great bbs but a pain to write code for extra options similar to Virtual Advanced BBS.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

it looks like each programmer only had access to thier sections.
I do like the way all the important stuff is library calls thou.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Could I get a copy of this off you by any chance? I collect bbs programs. Thanks.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █


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■ Synchronet ■ Park Avenue Place - parkave.synchro.net

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 08:33 am

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 12:49 am

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Tue Mar 29 2011 09:03 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Oh I bet Corey. Running PCB was a great bbs but a pain to write code f extra options similar to Virtual Advanced BBS.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

it looks like each programmer only had access to thier sections.
I do like the way all the important stuff is library calls thou.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Could I get a copy of this off you by any chance? I collect bbs programs. Thanks.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

Which parts?
the bbs package or the source code?
and I would need a email address to send it too.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 10:17 am

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 08:33 am

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 12:49 am

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Tue Mar 29 2011 09:03 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Oh I bet Corey. Running PCB was a great bbs but a pain to write cod extra options similar to Virtual Advanced BBS.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

it looks like each programmer only had access to thier sections.
I do like the way all the important stuff is library calls thou.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Could I get a copy of this off you by any chance? I collect bbs programs. Thanks.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

Which parts?
the bbs package or the source code?
and I would need a email address to send it too.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

After we had talked, I went to a little research and found it at hte BBS Documentary. bbsdocumentary.com. Could have saved you some compilation in the long run.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █


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■ Synchronet ■ Park Avenue Place - parkave.synchro.net

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 01:13 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 10:17 am

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 08:33 am

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 12:49 am

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Tue Mar 29 2011 09:03 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Oh I bet Corey. Running PCB was a great bbs but a pain to write extra options similar to Virtual Advanced BBS.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

it looks like each programmer only had access to thier sections.
I do like the way all the important stuff is library calls thou.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Could I get a copy of this off you by any chance? I collect bbs progra Thanks.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

Which parts?
the bbs package or the source code?
and I would need a email address to send it too.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

After we had talked, I went to a little research and found it at hte BBS Documentary. bbsdocumentary.com. Could have saved you some compilation in th long run.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █

yeah but then you can't mod it as you like.
plus, the public source code out there needs a load of work to compile it.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 14:09:46

yeah but then you can't mod it as you like.
plus, the public source code out there needs a load of work to compile it.

That reminds me of something I was thinking recently.. I heard that WWIV was optionally sold with source code, as was Synchronet when licenses were being sold, and that was considered an advantage because sysops were able to modify the source to fit their own needs/desires for their BBS - but what were such sysops to do when new versions of the software were released? I imagine it would be a hassle to keep track of and merge their custom changes into new versions when they were released.

Nightfox

Re: PCBoard
By: Nightfox to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 07:09 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 14:09:46

yeah but then you can't mod it as you like.
plus, the public source code out there needs a load of work to compile it

That reminds me of something I was thinking recently.. I heard that WWIV wa optionally sold with source code, as was Synchronet when licenses were being sold, and that was considered an advantage because sysops were able to modif the source to fit their own needs/desires for their BBS - but what were such sysops to do when new versions of the software were released? I imagine it would be a hassle to keep track of and merge their custom changes into new versions when they were released.

Nightfox

I remember when I used All-American BBS. Everytime you made a change, compile again. I found it to be a real hassle.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada █ ♠ █


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■ Synchronet ■ Park Avenue Place - parkave.synchro.net

Re: PCBoard
By: Nightfox to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 07:09 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 14:09:46

yeah but then you can't mod it as you like.
plus, the public source code out there needs a load of work to compile it

That reminds me of something I was thinking recently.. I heard that WWIV wa optionally sold with source code, as was Synchronet when licenses were being sold, and that was considered an advantage because sysops were able to modif the source to fit their own needs/desires for their BBS - but what were such sysops to do when new versions of the software were released? I imagine it would be a hassle to keep track of and merge their custom changes into new versions when they were released.

Nightfox

it is. plus you have to know how your bbs was written.
all of pcboards main stuff is in librarys,
so you hve to mod the library, compile the library,
then recompile the main bbs exe.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

Re: PCBoard
By: Nightfox to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 07:09 pm

That reminds me of something I was thinking recently.. I heard that WWIV was optionally sold with source code, as was Synchronet when licenses were being sold, and that was considered an advantage because sysops were able
to modify the source to fit their own needs/desires for their BBS - but
what were such sysops to do when new versions of the software were
released? I imagine it would be a hassle to keep track of and merge their custom changes into new versions when they were released.

Depends on how well the BBS was designed when originally coded. After a
couple of releases the sysop would eventually catch on to the way of
thinking.... Besides, a funny thing about having the source code. I'd
venture a lot of sysop's bought it thinking they'd make changes, then
once they got it found they either couldn't think of anything to change,
or couldn't make heads or tails out of making said changes.... Especially
depending on the style of the programmer and the language used... Most
type of deals like that would encrypt certain areas of the software in
hard to understand assembly that was meant to be hard to decode, such that
if you tried to change the copyright, registration system, and certain
other areas, you had a task ahead of you. Unfortiantly, those certain areas
where often all the areas the sysop originally thought would be "easy" ;-)




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■ Synchronet ■ Roach Guts - roachguts.com

Re: PCBoard
By: John Guillory to Nightfox on Wed Mar 30 2011 21:17:36

Depends on how well the BBS was designed when originally coded. After a
couple of releases the sysop would eventually catch on to the way of
thinking....

That's true - sometimes it's hard to go into someone else's code and figure out the overall idea of what they intended, before trying to make changes to it.

Nightfox

Re: PCBoard
By: John Guillory to Nightfox on Wed Mar 30 2011 09:17 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Nightfox to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 07:09 pm

That reminds me of something I was thinking recently.. I heard that WWIV was optionally sold with source code, as was Synchronet when licenses wer being sold, and that was considered an advantage because sysops were able to modify the source to fit their own needs/desires for their BBS - but what were such sysops to do when new versions of the software were released? I imagine it would be a hassle to keep track of and merge thei custom changes into new versions when they were released.

Depends on how well the BBS was designed when originally coded. After a
couple of releases the sysop would eventually catch on to the way of
thinking.... Besides, a funny thing about having the source code. I'd
venture a lot of sysop's bought it thinking they'd make changes, then
once they got it found they either couldn't think of anything to change,
or couldn't make heads or tails out of making said changes.... Especially
depending on the style of the programmer and the language used... Most
type of deals like that would encrypt certain areas of the software in
hard to understand assembly that was meant to be hard to decode, such tha
if you tried to change the copyright, registration system, and certain
other areas, you had a task ahead of you. Unfortiantly, those certain ar
where often all the areas the sysop originally thought would be "easy" ;-

Yeah, I bought a 10 node source code license. the nodes lock was in a obj file. I already have that fixed and can put any serial number or node count I want.
I figure after 10+ years it didn't matter and it's not like I am selling modded versions. it's all just for my own use. I paid over 1800.00 for my source license, like 5 days before the bank closed them down.
I even blocked the back door they had in it.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 01:13 pm

Could I get a copy of this off you by any chance? I collect bbs progra Thanks.

After we had talked, I went to a little research and found it at hte BBS Documentary. bbsdocumentary.com. Could have saved you some compilation in th long run.

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BBS programs:

"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_software ."

Note the period at the end of the URL.

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■ Synchronet ■ Southeast Texas BBS -- setxbbs.synchro.net

Re: PCBoard
By: Dreamer to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 10:32 pm

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BBS programs:
"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_soft ware ."
Note the period at the end of the URL.

For the record, I did a quick copy without the period and it worked fine.
Any idea on how many are in Pascal? I know overall, the majority of
BBS's where written in Pascal, a handfull in Basic and I think a few in
C. I'm downloading the torrent as we speak. I can't wait, it looks like
I'm going to win this auction for Borland Pascal 7.0. I found the patches
for making OS/2 executables, and the CRT unit patch (have 3-4 of them!)
Which is sort of another thing. I am thinking of getting OS/2 Warp.
Does anyone know if on Warp 4, I can use an eithernet and get internet
like on windows, or do you have to do the old dialup? All I remember was
back when I had OS/2, I had 2.1 w/ Dial-up (a version I bought on CD-ROM
somewhere else) and beta tested the Warp version, which I remember it coming
with various internet stuff in it. I remember I used to use vmodem, which
I'd love to find a similiar product that could be registered, but apparently
Ray Guinn vanished from the face of the earth. If I could just get Tenet
and FTP access from OS/2 to my BBS Server, I think I could convince myself
to install OS/2 on this machine and use it for testing OS/2 software that
I Write as well as DOS software. The nice thing I love about OS/2 is I
could install several boot disk and boot from that DOS version while
inside of OS/2 and test my software to make sure it ran on every version
of DOS....



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■ Synchronet ■ Roach Guts - roachguts.com

--- COREY wrote --
wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok
what a job. source code was like a maze

Really? On what platform? I would love a copy of that, as I want to put
a PCboard theme into QBBS...


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■ TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKseven ■ telnet/http bbs.cortex-media.info

--- DREAMER wrote --

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BB programs

"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_sof

Excellent! Thanks!


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■ TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKseven ■ telnet/http bbs.cortex-media.info

Re: PCBoard
By: John Guillory to Dreamer on Thu Mar 31 2011 12:27 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Dreamer to The Millionaire on Wed Mar 30 2011 10:32 pm

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BBS programs:
"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_s ware ."
Note the period at the end of the URL.

For the record, I did a quick copy without the period and it worked fine.
Any idea on how many are in Pascal? I know overall, the majority of
BBS's where written in Pascal, a handfull in Basic and I think a few in
C. I'm downloading the torrent as we speak. I can't wait, it looks like
I'm going to win this auction for Borland Pascal 7.0. I found the patche
for making OS/2 executables, and the CRT unit patch (have 3-4 of them!)
Which is sort of another thing. I am thinking of getting OS/2 Warp.
Does anyone know if on Warp 4, I can use an eithernet and get internet
like on windows, or do you have to do the old dialup? All I remember was
back when I had OS/2, I had 2.1 w/ Dial-up (a version I bought on CD-ROM
somewhere else) and beta tested the Warp version, which I remember it com
with various internet stuff in it. I remember I used to use vmodem, whic
I'd love to find a similiar product that could be registered, but apparen
Ray Guinn vanished from the face of the earth. If I could just get Tenet
and FTP access from OS/2 to my BBS Server, I think I could convince mysel
to install OS/2 on this machine and use it for testing OS/2 software that
I Write as well as DOS software. The nice thing I love about OS/2 is I
could install several boot disk and boot from that DOS version while
inside of OS/2 and test my software to make sure it ran on every version
of DOS....

PCBoard used codebase 5 for it's dbase support.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

Re: PCBoard
By: the doctor to COREY on Thu Mar 31 2011 07:59 pm

--- COREY wrote --
wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok
what a job. source code was like a maze

Really? On what platform? I would love a copy of that, as I want to put
a PCboard theme into QBBS...

It's just C, borland 3.1 and codebase 5.
Whats qbbs?

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

--- DREAMER wrote --

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BB programs

"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_sof

Hey, my old DOS BBS software is in there! Bitchen!



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■ TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKseven ■ telnet/http bbs.cortex-media.info

Re: PCBoard
By: the doctor to DREAMER on Fri Apr 01 2011 12:17 am

--- DREAMER wrote --

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BB programs

"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_sof

Hey, my old DOS BBS software is in there! Bitchen!

Watch out, I found 2 viruses when I got it.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

Re: PCBoard
By: John Guillory to Dreamer on Thu Mar 31 2011 12:27 pm

For the record, I did a quick copy without the period and it worked fine.
Any idea on how many are in Pascal? I know overall, the majority of
BBS's where written in Pascal, a handfull in Basic and I think a few in
C. I'm downloading the torrent as we speak. I can't wait, it looks like

You hit it on the head. Back then, Pascal was pretty big. Plus, it was
being taught in high schools... ;)

I had shut off uTorrent and forgotten to start it back up earlier. Just in case there were no seeds, I'm still seeding.

I'm going to win this auction for Borland Pascal 7.0. I found the patche
for making OS/2 executables, and the CRT unit patch (have 3-4 of them!)
Which is sort of another thing. I am thinking of getting OS/2 Warp.
Does anyone know if on Warp 4, I can use an eithernet and get internet

I don't know much about Warp, but there's a new company maintaining it now. You might check with them for drivers. It should be doable so long as you
get the ethernet driver for you card.

like on windows, or do you have to do the old dialup? All I remember was
back when I had OS/2, I had 2.1 w/ Dial-up (a version I bought on CD-ROM
somewhere else) and beta tested the Warp version, which I remember it com
with various internet stuff in it. I remember I used to use vmodem, whic
I'd love to find a similiar product that could be registered, but apparen
Ray Guinn vanished from the face of the earth. If I could just get Tenet
and FTP access from OS/2 to my BBS Server, I think I could convince mysel
to install OS/2 on this machine and use it for testing OS/2 software that
I Write as well as DOS software. The nice thing I love about OS/2 is I
could install several boot disk and boot from that DOS version while
inside of OS/2 and test my software to make sure it ran on every version
of DOS....

There's some pretty awesome software now for getting BBSes online and telnettable. I could reference a few that I've used for DOS boards, but I'm guessing they're not OS/2 compatible. Surely there's gotta be a better free alternative to vmodem.

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■ Synchronet ■ Southeast Texas BBS -- setxbbs.synchro.net

Re: PCBoard
By: the doctor to DREAMER on Thu Mar 31 2011 08:02 pm

--- DREAMER wrote --

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BB programs

"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_sof

Excellent! Thanks!

np :) Let me know how it works out for you.

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■ Synchronet ■ Southeast Texas BBS -- setxbbs.synchro.net

Re: PCBoard
By: the doctor to DREAMER on Fri Apr 01 2011 12:17 am

--- DREAMER wrote --

There's a torrent floating around the Pirate Bay w/ quite a few DOS BB programs

"http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6205414/A_collection_of_DOS-based_BBS_sof

Hey, my old DOS BBS software is in there! Bitchen!

Which one?

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■ Synchronet ■ Southeast Texas BBS -- setxbbs.synchro.net

--- COREY wrote --

Watch out, I found 2 viruses when I got it

Really? Old ones? I'll be careful.


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■ TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKseven ■ telnet/http bbs.cortex-media.info

--- DREAMER wrote --

Which one

TOPQUARK.


Source code avaiable at bbs.yagni.com

For that matter, if anyone has any old BBS source code they want online,
let me know and I will put it on there.

If you want to see what it was like, this system (see qwk tag) is a
multi-line telnet version I've knocked up in Ruby over the years.

(Praise be to Digial Man for letting me mine his code in a few instances).

bbs.cortex-media.info



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■ TARDIS BBS - Home of QUARKseven ■ telnet/http bbs.cortex-media.info

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 08:33 am

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

I'd like to get my hands on that as well. :)

g.

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■ Synchronet ■ The Retro Archive - bbs.retroarchive.org

Re: PCBoard
By: Gene Buckle to The Millionaire on Fri Apr 01 2011 07:02 am

Re: PCBoard
By: The Millionaire to Corey on Wed Mar 30 2011 08:33 am

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to All on Tue Mar 29 2011 04:56 pm

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

I'd like to get my hands on that as well. :)

g.

the pcboard source code?
give me a email to send it to you.
you also will need Codebase 5 to compile it.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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■ Synchronet ■ Three Stooges Gentlemens Club - Las Vegas, Nv - tsgc.dyndns.org

On 3/30/2011 8:17 PM, John Guillory wrote:

That reminds me of something I was thinking recently.. I heard that WWIV
was optionally sold with source code, as was Synchronet when licenses were >> being sold, and that was considered an advantage because sysops were able
to modify the source to fit their own needs/desires for their BBS - but
what were such sysops to do when new versions of the software were
released? I imagine it would be a hassle to keep track of and merge their >> custom changes into new versions when they were released.

Depends on how well the BBS was designed when originally coded. After a couple of releases the sysop would eventually catch on to the way of thinking....

I remember without source having to hex edit RENEGADE.OVR for each release in order to put a few mods in place... that was fun. At one point I had a list of every string I had to search for and what to replace it with when development was really active on it.

Besides, a funny thing about having the source code. I'd
venture a lot of sysop's bought it thinking they'd make changes, then
once they got it found they either couldn't think of anything to change,
or couldn't make heads or tails out of making said changes....

Probably more true than not... I'm not an experienced C or C++ guy at all, and opening up some of the Synchronet source makes my head spin... fortunately, at this point most of the user facing pieces can be replaced via script without digging into the core source... though coding is pretty much required for doing anything with Synchronet.

--
Michael J. Ryan - http://tracker1.info/

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■ Synchronet ■ Roughneck BBS - telnet://roughneckbbs.com - www.roughneckbbs.com

On 3/31/2011 11:27 AM, John Guillory wrote:

Ray Guinn vanished from the face of the earth. If I could just get Tenet
and FTP access from OS/2 to my BBS Server, I think I could convince myself
to install OS/2 on this machine and use it for testing OS/2 software that
I Write as well as DOS software. The nice thing I love about OS/2 is I
could install several boot disk and boot from that DOS version while
inside of OS/2 and test my software to make sure it ran on every version
of DOS....

I'd suggest looking into VirtualBox, VMWare, Parallels or Virtual PC. All of which should allow you to handle a virtual instance of said software with virtual audio and network hardware that's pretty well supported, far more easily than trying to get native hardware working.

--
Michael J. Ryan - http://tracker1.info/

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■ Synchronet ■ Roughneck BBS - telnet://roughneckbbs.com - www.roughneckbbs.com

Re: Re: PCBoard
By: Tracker1 to John Guillory on Sat Apr 02 2011 12:57 pm

I remember without source having to hex edit RENEGADE.OVR for each release in order to put a few mods in place... that was fun. At one point I had a list of every string I had to search for and what to replace it with when development was really active on it.

That, or write a program to do it for you.... Much like when it was popular to make self modifying EXE's and such.... We used to have something like:

TYPE CfgRec = RECORD
Sig : ARRAY [1 .. 5] of char;
Uname: String;
password: String;
END;
CONST Cfg : CfgRec = ('MYCFG','John Guillory','Password');


Then write the code to open ParamStr(0) for input and search till we find Cfg.Sig in the EXE file, when we do, modify the password and user name to what the user entered and write it back out....



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.... but what were such sysops to do when new versions of the software were released? I imagine it would be a hassle to keep track of and merge their custom changes into new versions when they were released.

One way to do that is would be to use something like GIT (which doesn't require a separate server), import the new versions into a branch named "upstream" (for instance), then merge that to another branch you maintain for tracking the combined versions (yours and upstream).




Jame

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I'd suggest looking into VirtualBox, VMWare, Parallels or Virtual PC. All which should allow you to handle a virtual instance of said software with virtual audio and network hardware that's pretty well supported, far more easily than trying to get native hardware working

VirtualBox for the win. VB is free, and easilly as good as Parallels.


Virtual PC is horrible.


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Re: Re: PCBoard
By: the doctor to TRACKER1 on Mon Apr 04 2011 09:32:00

Virtual PC is horrible.

Perhaps because Microsoft bought it some years ago and started messing with it.. Virtual PC used to be made by Connectix, and I could be thinking of another VM software package, but I thought Virtual PC was one of the few (or only) VM packages that OS/2 could be installed in. Microsoft removed OS/2 support from Virtual PC after they bought it..

Nightfox

Re: Re: PCBoard
By: the doctor to TRACKER1 on Mon Apr 04 2011 10:32 am

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I'd suggest looking into VirtualBox, VMWare, Parallels or Virtual PC. All which should allow you to handle a virtual instance of said software with virtual audio and network hardware that's pretty well supported, far more easily than trying to get native hardware working

VirtualBox for the win. VB is free, and easilly as good as Parallels.

Virtual PC is horrible.

I built my data center using xen, a few support HVM for windows, currently have a 7-1 reduction, all free and packaged with centos 5.5 (and other distros)


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On 4/4/2011 2:32 AM, the doctor wrote:

I'd suggest looking into VirtualBox, VMWare, Parallels or Virtual PC. All >> which should allow you to handle a virtual instance of said software with
virtual audio and network hardware that's pretty well supported, far more
easily than trying to get native hardware working

VirtualBox for the win. VB is free, and easilly as good as Parallels.

Agreed, though VirtualBox for a mostly headless server is a pita, VMWare Server or ESX/i is nice, and VMWare workstation is far more polished IMHO. I would so switch to PC/FreeBSD if I could get a virtual host environment like VMWare or VirtualBox on it.

Virtual PC is horrible.

Agreed... to me the biggest thing going for it is you can setup a virtual drive, and reboot into with Win7. Other than that, not much.

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On 4/4/2011 5:49 PM, Nightfox wrote:

Virtual PC is horrible.

Perhaps because Microsoft bought it some years ago and started messing with it.. Virtual PC used to be made by Connectix, and I could be thinking of another VM software package, but I thought Virtual PC was one of the few (or only) VM packages that OS/2 could be installed in. Microsoft removed OS/2 support from Virtual PC after they bought it..

It used to run under Mac OS9 as well, I think MS stopped supporting mac os after they purchased them.

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Re: Re: PCBoard
By: Tracker1 to Nightfox on Sun Apr 17 2011 02:39:27

It used to run under Mac OS9 as well, I think MS stopped supporting mac os after they purchased them.

It's frustrating when that happens..

Nightfox

Re: Re: PCBoard
By: Tracker1 to the doctor on Sun Apr 17 2011 02:34 am

On 4/4/2011 2:32 AM, the doctor wrote:

I'd suggest looking into VirtualBox, VMWare, Parallels or Virtual PC. Al >> which should allow you to handle a virtual instance of said software with >> virtual audio and network hardware that's pretty well supported, far more >> easily than trying to get native hardware working

VirtualBox for the win. VB is free, and easilly as good as Parallels.

Agreed, though VirtualBox for a mostly headless server is a pita, VMWare Server or ESX/i is nice, and VMWare workstation is far more polished IMHO. would so switch to PC/FreeBSD if I could get a virtual host environment like VMWare or VirtualBox on it.

Virtual PC is horrible.

Agreed... to me the biggest thing going for it is you can setup a virtual drive, and reboot into with Win7. Other than that, not much.

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i use Vmware Fusion and it's user friendly too.

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anyone want to try and make pcboard bbs 15.3 natrally telnetable?
i.e. make it like synchronet.
It is written in Bc 3.1 and Codebase. I can provide both.
O tryed a few times myself but don't know enoght to do it.
I can't understand all the LIB calls they used.
almost everything is a call to a LIB routine.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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RE: PCBoard
BY: Corey to All on Invalid Time

@MSGID: <4DF72031.1413.doveprg@tsgc.dyndns.org>
@TZ: c1e0
anyone want to try and make pcboard bbs 15.3 natrally telnetable?
i.e. make it like synchronet.
It is written in Bc 3.1 and Codebase. I can provide both.
O tryed a few times myself but don't know enoght to do it.
I can't understand all the LIB calls they used.
almost everything is a call to a LIB routine.

Is there source out there? i didn't think this one was uh 'open' or whatever...

If it is very modular there is some hope of easily doing it, but I'm not going to promise anything...........



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Re: PCBoard
By: Neozeed to Corey on Thu Sep 15 2011 11:45 am

RE: PCBoard
BY: Corey to All on Invalid Time

@MSGID: <4DF72031.1413.doveprg@tsgc.dyndns.org>
@TZ: c1e0
anyone want to try and make pcboard bbs 15.3 natrally telnetable?
i.e. make it like synchronet.
It is written in Bc 3.1 and Codebase. I can provide both.
O tryed a few times myself but don't know enoght to do it.
I can't understand all the LIB calls they used.
almost everything is a call to a LIB routine.

Is there source out there? i didn't think this one was uh 'open' or whatever...

If it is very modular there is some hope of easily doing it, but I'm not goi to promise anything...........

there is no public source code. I had a source code license for my 10 node 15.3 version, but I lost some files after Clark went out of business. and a person helped me patch my source code so it will compile without those missing files.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: Android
By: Corey to All on Mon Dec 19 2011 11:54:26

Corey - Reviving a ~1yr old thread... sorry...

Do you still have pcb 15.3 sources with your updates? If so, I'd love a copy.

jasonbrent at gmail.com

Re: PCBoard
By: Elmer Fudd to Corey on Thu May 24 2012 10:18 pm

Re: Android
By: Corey to All on Mon Dec 19 2011 11:54:26

Corey - Reviving a ~1yr old thread... sorry...

Do you still have pcb 15.3 sources with your updates? If so, I'd love a copy

jasonbrent at gmail.com

yep.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Thu May 24 2012 22:56:40

Awesome. Can you send a copy to jasonbrent at gmail.com by chance?

-jbl

Re: PCBoard
By: Elmer Fudd to Corey on Fri May 25 2012 03:46 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Thu May 24 2012 22:56:40

Awesome. Can you send a copy to jasonbrent at gmail.com by chance?

-jbl

will it hold about 15 megs?
also you need Borland C++ 3.1
thats what it was compiled with. unless you want to convert it.
and codeview, but I can give you that.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Fri May 25 2012 16:56:27

will it hold about 15 megs?

Yes. Apparently gmail accepts up to 25MB/message.

also you need Borland C++ 3.1

Ok. Located something slightly newer, but I can work on that.

thats what it was compiled with. unless you want to convert it.

.... converting is my intention. After I make it compile "out of the box".

and codeview, but I can give you that.

Ok, cool. I had a harder time locating codeview. Not successful yet.

-jbl

Re: PCBoard
By: Elmer Fudd to Corey on Fri May 25 2012 06:50 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Fri May 25 2012 16:56:27

will it hold about 15 megs?

Yes. Apparently gmail accepts up to 25MB/message.

also you need Borland C++ 3.1

Ok. Located something slightly newer, but I can work on that.

thats what it was compiled with. unless you want to convert it.

.... converting is my intention. After I make it compile "out of the box".

and codeview, but I can give you that.

Ok, cool. I had a harder time locating codeview. Not successful yet.

-jbl

only the main bbs exe has a working makefile.
I never needed to mod any other program.
I tryed to port it over to bc 5.5 once.
but it is so old, I am now mostly hairless. i.e. SCREAM, RIP, etc.
what is your email again?

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"


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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Fri May 25 2012 19:44:30

only the main bbs exe has a working makefile.
I never needed to mod any other program.
I tryed to port it over to bc 5.5 once.
but it is so old, I am now mostly hairless. i.e. SCREAM, RIP, etc.
what is your email again?

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Fri May 25 2012 19:44:30

only the main bbs exe has a working makefile.
I never needed to mod any other program.
I tryed to port it over to bc 5.5 once.
but it is so old, I am now mostly hairless. i.e. SCREAM, RIP, etc.
what is your email again?

jasonbrent at gmail.com

-jbl

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Fri May 25 2012 04:56 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Elmer Fudd to Corey on Fri May 25 2012 03:46 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Thu May 24 2012 22:56:40

Awesome. Can you send a copy to jasonbrent at gmail.com by chance?

-jbl

will it hold about 15 megs?
also you need Borland C++ 3.1
thats what it was compiled with. unless you want to convert it.
and codeview, but I can give you that.

i think gmail has a max size of 25 for attachments

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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Thu May 24 2012 10:56 pm

Do you still have pcb 15.3 sources with your updates? If so, I'd love a copy

yep.

Quick Basic? I personally prefer Borland Pascal Based BBS's.

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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Fri May 25 2012 19:44:30

only the main bbs exe has a working makefile.
I never needed to mod any other program.
I tryed to port it over to bc 5.5 once.
but it is so old, I am now mostly hairless. i.e. SCREAM, RIP, etc.

I found a copy from Trifle and got it to compile on Win98.

I've started porting it forward under Win7 using BC55 and TASM5. About 10% done with the libraries at this point.

I'm not sure what my end-game is here, but I'd love to see this compilable/runnable under current Win32 and maybe Linux/MacOS with gcc.

Will see how far I get before I get bored. :-)

-jbl

Re: PCBoard
By: Elmer Fudd to Corey on Mon May 28 2012 07:17 pm

Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Fri May 25 2012 19:44:30

only the main bbs exe has a working makefile.
I never needed to mod any other program.
I tryed to port it over to bc 5.5 once.
but it is so old, I am now mostly hairless. i.e. SCREAM, RIP, etc.

I found a copy from Trifle and got it to compile on Win98.

I've started porting it forward under Win7 using BC55 and TASM5. About 10% d with the libraries at this point.

I'm not sure what my end-game is here, but I'd love to see this compilable/runnable under current Win32 and maybe Linux/MacOS with gcc.

Will see how far I get before I get bored. :-)

-jbl

great. he is the one who fixed my 15.3 source code.
I paid over 1800.00 for a source code license to my 10 node pcboard system.
2 obj were missing from my discs, the license obj and the node obj.
trifle patched around both those objs for me. but it wont fully compile with
bc 3.1 on a nt system. some files give a GP error while trying to compile.
and I hated to ask him to do more for me, with dos bbses mostly a hobby now. When you fix it for a modern compiler, can you send me a copy?
I can run it fine on a nt system with dial up or net2bbs, but cant do any mods to it. thanks.

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Re: PCBoard
By: Corey to Elmer Fudd on Thu May 31 2012 20:54:29

great. he is the one who fixed my 15.3 source code.
I paid over 1800.00 for a source code license to my 10 node pcboard
system. 2 obj were missing from my discs, the license obj and the node
obj. trifle patched around both those objs for me. but it wont fully
compile with bc 3.1 on a nt system. some files give a GP error while
trying to compile. and I hated to ask him to do more for me, with dos
bbses mostly a hobby now. When you fix it for a modern compiler, can you send me a copy? I can run it fine on a nt system with dial up or net2bbs, but cant do any mods to it. thanks.

I managed to compile it on Win98ME running under VMWare. Windows NT up to 2000 proved to create the same GP errors whilst trying to compile with BC31.

I started porting this forward to BC55 (and on win7), but ended up getting stuck in some of the assembly (not the inline, that was easy to fix), but the code that was straight up assembly... including the c0.asm. That probably took me close to 16 hours to fix (mostly due to my lack of clue with what is effectively manually creating the binary linkages). I ported some of the inline assembly to straight up C and other more portable things (like they had a custom strncpy() that seems to do the same thing as stdlib's strncpy, so I just moved to strncpy.)

Of the *.asm code, I've ported, or so I thought, most of it to 32bit, but I have approximately 20 leftover 16bit segments in the object files I make that I'm having a real hard time tracking down.

There are other problems to unless one stays with pure DOS based systems like Win98... for example, console handling under Win32 is significantly different than that of DOS based systems (including WinME).

Long story short, I'm still hacking on this in my spare time, but have currently split my effort off into another tact for a while. I haven't given up, but I have reached the limits of what I think I could do with BC55... it's 4 .ASM files away from linking and testing, but in reality, that's a world away.

I've imported the code into Visual Studio(not my favorite thing) with the thought of spending a few days spare time seeing about reworking their assembly-based ANSI/console stuff into Win32's console handler (function calls ailgn pretty closely, so it may be doable)... but that then gets pretty far away from "regular" PCBoard...

I'll update in a few days, but... right now, not looking so hot. I'll probably try to hack on the BC55/assembly stuff some more in the not to distant future. That'd be the closest thing to something easily modifable.

-jbl

wow, I finally got pcboard 15.3 to compile and run ok.
what a job. source code was like a maze.

I know that this message is old but what source code did you use and how did you get Pcboard to compile?

Thanks

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