• Re: strange window displa

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Mon Jul 31 09:06:00 2023
    i wouldn't worry about it. gamgee and mro are basically the same
    person to me..

    Did all three of you drop out of school at about the same age?

    I knew that statement would draw a swift reaction. :D


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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to Gamgee on Mon Jul 31 19:24:00 2023
    Gamgee wrote to candycane <=-

    candycane wrote to Gamgee <=-

    i wouldn't worry about it. gamgee and mro are basically the same person
    to me..

    Did all three of you drop out of school at about the same age?

    No? It's probably a habit from using a lot of irc chats and like
    other instant message platforms n stuff..

    I'll bet I've been using IRC a lot longer than you have, and many IM
    apps over the years, and I don't do that. Neither does anyone I know.

    Why would you *WANT* to appear to be sloppy/lazy/illiterate? Sorry,
    but I don't understand that kind of behavior. Is it really that much harder to write properly? Are you in that much of a hurry that you
    can't do it?



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Tue Aug 1 09:22:00 2023
    Why would you *WANT* to appear to be sloppy/lazy/illiterate? Sorry, but
    I don't understand that kind of behavior. Is it really that much harder
    to write properly? Are you in that much of a hurry that you can't do
    it?

    It is a younger generation thing, the generation that grew up with text messaging, etc. Those of us who had texting introduced later probably still try to be grammatically correct.

    Also, I am pretty certain they've quit stressing grammar as much in schools.


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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to Dumas Walker on Tue Aug 1 13:32:00 2023
    Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-

    Why would you *WANT* to appear to be sloppy/lazy/illiterate? Sorry, but
    I don't understand that kind of behavior. Is it really that much harder
    to write properly? Are you in that much of a hurry that you can't do
    it?

    It is a younger generation thing, the generation that grew up
    with text messaging, etc. Those of us who had texting introduced
    later probably still try to be grammatically correct.

    Yes, I'm sure you're absolutely right. This generation will have lots
    of neck/spine problems, and carpal tunnel in the hands, when they get
    old; due to walking around while constantly staring down at their phone
    and running into things.

    Also, I am pretty certain they've quit stressing grammar as much
    in schools.

    Agreed. Along with a LOT of other important stuff. Have to make room
    in the curriculum for all the new "woke" agenda stuff, ya know. :-(



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to GAMGEE on Wed Aug 2 07:18:00 2023
    Yes, I'm sure you're absolutely right. This generation will have lots
    of neck/spine problems, and carpal tunnel in the hands, when they get
    old; due to walking around while constantly staring down at their phone
    and running into things.

    Zombies. ;)

    Also, I am pretty certain they've quit stressing grammar as much
    in schools.

    Agreed. Along with a LOT of other important stuff. Have to make room
    in the curriculum for all the new "woke" agenda stuff, ya know. :-(

    That and the general lowering of standards so that the kids can score
    better on the aptitude tests.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/PHARCYDE to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 4 19:33:19 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: Dumas Walker to GAMGEE on Wed Aug 02 2023 07:18 am

    Also, I am pretty certain they've quit stressing grammar as much
    in schools.


    That and the general lowering of standards so that the kids can score
    better on the aptitude tests.

    What do they do when they get to college? College's no longer check grammer on students papers? Or did they do away with writing papers too?

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to HusTler on Fri Aug 4 23:02:04 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: HusTler to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 04 2023 07:33 pm


    That and the general lowering of standards so that the kids can score better on the aptitude tests.

    What do they do when they get to college? College's no longer check grammer on students papers? Or did they do away with writing papers too?

    when a teacher lowered a grade and said they should correct grammer and he would score it again, they called him racist and went to the news and got him canceled.


    https://www.econjobrumors.com/topic/ucla-professor-accused-of-racism-for-correcting-grammar-capitalization

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/11/25/ucla-grad-students-stage-sit-during-class-protest-what-they-see-racially-hostile

    https://www.msudenver.edu/writing-center/faculty-resources/linguistic-white-supremacy/
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Sun Aug 6 08:14:00 2023
    That and the general lowering of standards so that the kids can score better on the aptitude tests.

    What do they do when they get to college? College's no longer check grammer o
    students papers? Or did they do away with writing papers too?

    I am not certain but, outside of English majors, they may not check grammer
    any more.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 7 08:09:00 2023
    Dumas Walker wrote to HUSTLER <=-

    I am not certain but, outside of English majors, they may not check grammer any more.

    I was in AP English a long time ago, and had a conflict with the
    3rd year AP English teacher. He sent me down to the regular English
    class, and I realized I could write literal nonsense, but as long as it
    was correctly grammatically correct, capitalized and punctuated I'd get
    an A.

    I hadn't thought about that guy in a long time. I should have dedicated
    my novel to him. :)



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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 7 18:27:02 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Mon Aug 07 2023 08:09 am

    I hadn't thought about that guy in a long time. I should have dedicated
    my novel to him. :)

    You wrote a novel? What was it about?

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  • From Hustler@VERT/REALITY to candycane on Tue Aug 8 05:34:51 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: candycane to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 07 2023 06:27 pm

    I hadn't thought about that guy in a long time. I should have dedicated
    my novel to him. :)

    You wrote a novel? What was it about?

    Yeah really? For real? Is it published yet? Inquiring minds want to know ;-)


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to HusTler on Tue Aug 8 09:35:59 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: HusTler to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 04 2023 07:33 pm

    What do they do when they get to college? College's no longer check grammer > students papers? Or did they do away with writing papers too?


    When a College gets an avalanche of ignorant morons instead of the students they are expecting, they are forced to lower their standards.

    If the Engineering College starts getting students who left High School ignoring what the Moment of Inertia of a body is, they will have to adapt theirplans. They won't be able to assume students know it and will have to teach it
    themselves.

    This is the reason why you have 2nd year College students who are still learning the basics.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to candycane on Tue Aug 8 07:18:00 2023
    candycane wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    I hadn't thought about that guy in a long time. I should have dedicated
    my novel to him. :)

    You wrote a novel? What was it about?

    Part Zombie Apocalypse, part Earth Abides by George Stewart - the first
    apocalyptic fiction I read as a kid.




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Hustler on Tue Aug 8 07:23:00 2023
    Hustler wrote to candycane <=-

    Yeah really? For real? Is it published yet? Inquiring minds want to
    know ;-)

    I wrote it during NANOWRIMO in 2017, added some text to get it to around
    50K words, then took some out. It's still rough around the edges, but
    I'm going to get around to putting it up as a kindle book some day.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue Aug 8 07:52:00 2023
    I was in AP English a long time ago, and had a conflict with the
    3rd year AP English teacher. He sent me down to the regular English
    class, and I realized I could write literal nonsense, but as long as it
    was correctly grammatically correct, capitalized and punctuated I'd get
    an A.

    I hadn't thought about that guy in a long time. I should have dedicated
    my novel to him. :)

    Sounds like maybe you should have! :)


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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 8 18:42:27 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to candycane on Tue Aug 08 2023 07:18 am

    Part Zombie Apocalypse, part Earth Abides by George Stewart - the first apocalyptic fiction I read as a kid.

    Wow, that's pretty cool! I haven't heard of Earth Abides before. What's the book you wrote called?

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  • From candycane@VERT/CONCHAOS to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Aug 8 18:44:17 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Hustler on Tue Aug 08 2023 07:23 am

    I wrote it during NANOWRIMO in 2017, added some text to get it to around 50K words, then took some out. It's still rough around the edges, but
    I'm going to get around to putting it up as a kindle book some day.

    Wow! Good luck, you can do it! (sorry about the previous message I hadn't read the response yet)

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  • From Margaerynne@VERT/PALANTIR to HusTler on Tue Aug 8 22:24:00 2023
    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: HusTler to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 04 2023 07:33 pm



    What do they do when they get to college? College's no longer check grammer on students papers? Or did they do away
    ^ incorrect ^ grammAr ^'

    -15 points

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Wed Dec 6 08:55:57 2023
    On 2023-08-01, Dumas Walker <CAPCITY2!Dumas.Walker@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Why would you *WANT* to appear to be sloppy/lazy/illiterate? Sorry, but
    I don't understand that kind of behavior. Is it really that much harder
    to write properly? Are you in that much of a hurry that you can't do
    it?

    It is a younger generation thing, the generation that grew up with text messaging, etc. Those of us who had texting introduced later probably still try to be grammatically correct.

    Also, I am pretty certain they've quit stressing grammar as much in schools.


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    Well, the truth it's MSN/AIM/Jabber have better capabilities than SMS's even
    in Europe thus, writting like that looked like an uneducated chav/illiterated trashy teen everywhere. Later, with smartphones, I agree with you, the
    traits got widespread.

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  • From anthk@VERT to All on Wed Dec 6 08:55:58 2023
    On 2023-08-08, Arelor <PALANTIR!Arelor@vert.synchro.net> wrote:

    Re: Re: strange window displa
    By: HusTler to Dumas Walker on Fri Aug 04 2023 07:33 pm

    What do they do when they get to college? College's no longer check grammer > students papers? Or did they do away with writing papers too?


    When a College gets an avalanche of ignorant morons instead of the students they are expecting, they are forced to lower their standards.

    If the Engineering College starts getting students who left High School ignoring what the Moment of Inertia of a body is, they will have to adapt theirplans. They won't be able to assume students know it and will have to teach it
    themselves.

    This is the reason why you have 2nd year College students who are still learning the basics.

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    I've seen that in Spain too, it's crazy. The things is at pre-Uni HS "split" between
    humanities and science, either branch enforces you to be able to parse a Spanish book
    as if you were a damn Cervantes or a member of the Royal Academy of the Spanish
    Language setting up the standards. OTOH, you can entirely omit Maths in Humanities,
    as my SO did. And, heck, Math it's logical; try to parse complex nested phrases (oración suborndinada, I don't know how to translate it, you basically use a sentence
    as an object for another one) in Spanish and a mid-difficult integral it's a breeze.

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