I have tried to change the questions on my board as best as I can so as not to collect too much "personal" info. However, also being an "old fart," BBS-wise, I am still of the notion that I would like to know a little about a person, and someone who is intent to be up to no good on a BBS usually will give up before answering too many questions. I see it as a way to
weed those folks out.
Not neccessarily true. If I feel like a SysOp is being too intrusive and asking me for too much personal information I'll hang up. And I'm a goody-two-shoes.
Re: Bbs Security (was Freenet
By: Rassilon to MIKE POWELL on Sat Feb 06 2010 09:52 pm
Not neccessarily true. If I feel like a SysOp is being too intrusive and asking me for too much personal information I'll hang up. And I'm a goody-two-shoes.
same here.. I don't mind to answer the questions that's required for doorgam etc like sex and birthdate and an email but nothing more than that.
why does a sysop need someones address and home phone number? I never understood that.. even if for verification purposes, why would someones physical properties need verified? it's not like they're buying a car.. sheesh..
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Tim Smith (Mrproper)
WarZone BBS: warzone.synchro.net
BBSsearch : http://search.synchro.net
Back in the day it was actually supposed to be collected for mailers and things I never agreed with. My user databases were always private. Also if someone was doing something illegal on your bbs and you were questioned you needed to know who they were not just a handle. Privacy is a must. If you don't trust a sysop it's like watching tv, change the channel. Alot of the standard was in place before caller ID also. So verification was a must. oh well that was then.
why does a sysop need someones address and home phone number? I never understood that.. even if for verification purposes, why would someones physical properties need verified? it's not like they're buying a car.. sheesh..
Re: Bbs Security (was Freenet
By: Freejack to mrproper on Sun Feb 07 2010 01:50 am
Back in the day it was actually supposed to be collected for mailers and things I never agreed with. My user databases were always private. Also i someone was doing something illegal on your bbs and you were questioned y needed to know who they were not just a handle. Privacy is a must. If you don't trust a sysop it's like watching tv, change the channel. Alot of th standard was in place before caller ID also. So verification was a must. well that was then.
yeah, lots have changed since then, I could understand why someone back in t day would need to do it, but I still don't agree with it. I did'nt ask all t questions on my BBS back in the day, and to keep the trouble users out I did offer porn, warez, or anything like that. and I never had trouble.
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Tim Smith (Mrproper)
WarZone BBS: warzone.synchro.net
BBSsearch : http://search.synchro.net
│ Not neccessarily true. If I feel like a SysOp is being too intrusive and │ asking me for too much personal information I'll hang up. And I'm a
│ goody-two-shoes.
└─[R=>MP]
Your loss. Like I said, it ain't always the sysop. Some of these BBS systems have that stuff hard-coded. If it ain't open source, or isn't in a language you program in, you can't turn it off.
For example, I changed one of the questions from asking for a street
address to asking where the user heard about the BBS. I was able to change the screen that the user is shown with that question, and the prompt
itself, but the software still requires some sort of answer (and it has to be at least 2 words).
I have tried to change the questions on my board as best as I can so as not to collect too much "personal" info. However, also being an "old fart," BBS-wise, I am still of the notion that I would like to know a little about a person, and someone who is intent to be up to no good on a BBS usually
why does a sysop need someones address and home phone number? I never understood that.. even if for verification purposes, why would someones physical properties need verified? it's not like they're buying a car.. sheesh..
That has always been my thinking. Some folks will hang up when even the simplest questions are asked, as if they think more are to follow (they really don't).
what pisses me off is when people are too lazy to logoff correctly, I have a user who hangs up in my League10 games. but what he does'nt know is if exite the game like he is supposed to the batchfile finishes up to do the outbound routine that person posts on this network (you know who you are)
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make it an hourly event. we're not in the dialup days where people hanging up on us is a big deal.
make it an hourly event. we're not in the dialup days where peoplehanging > up on us is a big deal.
what about the left over inuse flags? I know I can get rid of them with a batch file too but I'm not going to sift through 50 doors to try.
what about the left over inuse flags? I know I can get rid of them with
a batch file too but I'm not going to sift through 50 doors to try.
I have mine deleted at the midnight maint. (before that game run it's maint.)
what about the left over inuse flags? I know I can get rid of themwith m> a batch file too but I'm not going to sift through 50 doors to
try.
I have mine deleted at the midnight maint. (before that game run it's maint.)
I know I need to add more to my batches to kepp any problem from arising but with what I'm doing now, it's hard to find the time.
LOL, I am at the point, if I find a problem I put in a fix asp.
Not neccessarily true. If I feel like a SysOp is being too intrusive and asking me for too much personal information I'll hang up. And I'm a goody-two-shoes.
same here.. I don't mind to answer the questions that's required for doorgam etc like sex and birthdate and an email but nothing more than that.
why does a sysop need someones address and home phone number? I never understood that.. even if for verification purposes, why would someones physical properties need verified? it's not like they're buying a car.. sheesh..
Everyone is a bit different. I ask for Name, handle, city and state (or country), sex, and email. Thats it.
│ Not neccessarily true. If I feel like a SysOp is being too intrusive and │ asking me for too much personal information I'll hang up. And I'm a
│ goody-two-shoes.
└─[R=>MP]
Your loss. Like I said, it ain't always the sysop. Some of these BBS systems have that stuff hard-coded. If it ain't open source, or isn't in a language you program in, you can't turn it off.
For example, I changed one of the questions from asking for a street address to asking where the user heard about the BBS. I was able to change the scre that the user is shown with that question, and the prompt itself, but the software still requires some sort of answer (and it has to be at least 2 words).
OTOH, I can't change the phone number question because it is expecting a number in a certain format. All I can do is tell the user that they can enter all 5's and hope they can read.
But I at least want to know where they are calling from (city & state or country). I figure I have a right to know that.
You have to remember, when you are on a BBS, you are on someone else's PERSONAL computer. It ain't at all like the rest of the Internet. Because you are logged onto their personal machine, they may feel they have a right to know something about the person that is on there.
You're thinking "I don't want to tell them too much or they might do something bad to me," but you have to remember, they are trusting you with their equipment. They may not want to trust just anyone, no matter how hacker-proof they may think their software/setup is.
##MMR 2.61ß. !link R 2-06-10 21:52
Not neccessarily true. If I feel like a SysOp is being too intrusive asking me for too much personal information I'll hang up. And I'm a goody-two-shoes.
same here.. I don't mind to answer the questions that's required for door etc like sex and birthdate and an email but nothing more than that.
why does a sysop need someones address and home phone number? I never understood that.. even if for verification purposes, why would someones physical properties need verified? it's not like they're buying a car.. sheesh..
Everyone is a bit different. I ask for Name, handle, city and state (or country), sex, and email. Thats it.
xxcarol
That makes a lot of sense. Some information is good for knowing
about people. Like age and location. It's always interesting to
know where someone is from. What their native language might then
be etc. However, the only verifiable information is really the
e-mail address. Since few of us use the old copper lines for our
computer communications any more, a phone number doesn't mean
anything anyway. It would also not make sense to demand that
a person _get_ a phone just to qualify for use of a board.
That said, I still wonder why people need to "sign up" just to
find out if the board is even socially acceptable. Some aren't,
and they still want all that information from you before they
tell you about themselves.
Back in the day it was actually supposed to be collected for mailers and
thi I never agreed with. My user databases were always private. Also if someone doing something illegal on your bbs and you were questioned you needed to kn who they were not just a handle. Privacy is a must. If you don't trust a sys it's like watching tv, change the channel. Alot of the standard was in place before caller ID also. So verification was a must.
oh well that was then. Freejack Freejacks BBS - telnet://fjbbs.gotdns.com
Agreed there, I also used to use it to send out formal invitations to
christ party and other events I used to have for BBS members. So it has
it's pros a cons. Right now mine does it cause I haven't changed it yet
been nusy gettin files in place. I hopefully will be changing all that.
but the software still requires some sort of answer (and it has to be at least 2 words). OTOH, I can't change the phone number question because itInteresting, I wonder if the person who wrote the software was
is expecting a number in a certain format. All I can do is tell the user that they can enter all 5's and hope they can read.
But I at least want to
know where they are calling from (city & state or country).
I figure I
have a right to know that. You have to remember, when you are on a BBS,
you are on someone else's PERSONAL computer. It ain't at all like the rest of the Internet. Because you are logged onto their personal machine, they may feel they have a right to know something about the person that is on
Everyone is a bit different. I ask for Name, handle, city and state (or country), sex, and email. Thats it.
same here.
and M or F for certain games.
Everyone is a bit different. I ask for Name, handle, city and state (or country), sex, and email. Thats it.
xxcarol
Hi Carol,
That makes a lot of sense. Some information is good for knowing
about people. Like age and location. It's always interesting to
know where someone is from. What their native language might then
be etc. However, the only verifiable information is really the
e-mail address. Since few of us use the old copper lines for our
computer communications any more, a phone number doesn't mean
anything anyway. It would also not make sense to demand that
a person _get_ a phone just to qualify for use of a board.
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