My wife's Samsung M2020w printer has been acting up - shows as online,
but can't print unless you restart it. I finally got sick of supporting
it and swapped it out for a Brother monochrome laser. Takes up more
room, but it'll print 24/7 without a complaint.

Samsung made great printers in the 2000s and 2010s, it's a shame HP
bought their printer business.

I had an M2525W that lasted for close to 15 years before a toner leak
inside made it unusable. Great printer.

Is there a desktop form-factor printer made now that doesn't suck? I'm
thinking of a small printer with a fold-up paper tray that doesn't take
up a lot of room on the desktop.



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On Thu, 12 Nov 2026 07:57:23 -0800
"poindexter FORTRAN" (VERT/REALITY) <VERT/REALITY!poindexter.FORTRAN@endofthelinebbs.com> wrote:

My wife's Samsung M2020w printer has been acting up - shows as online,
but can't print unless you restart it. I finally got sick of
supporting it and swapped it out for a Brother monochrome laser.
Takes up more room, but it'll print 24/7 without a complaint.

Samsung made great printers in the 2000s and 2010s, it's a shame HP
bought their printer business.

I had an M2525W that lasted for close to 15 years before a toner leak
inside made it unusable. Great printer.

Is there a desktop form-factor printer made now that doesn't suck? I'm thinking of a small printer with a fold-up paper tray that doesn't
take up a lot of room on the desktop.

I had a Brother monochrome laser. One day it had a paper jam. I removed
the paper but it still showed the same error. I ended up stripping that
thing down and couldn't find the problem. I ended up getting a new one.
Some time later I ended up taking the toner out of where it fits into
the drum and there it was...a bit of paper that must have torn off.

These days I have a multi-function fax/copier/scanner which is neat, it
can scan to email, network drive, pdf file or jpg, and lots of other
stuff. I think I had an Epson between the two and that failed also. I'd
never buy another one.
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Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: nelgin to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 12 2026 01:04 pm

I had a Brother monochrome laser. One day it had a paper jam. I removed the paper but it still showed the same error. I ended up stripping that thing down and couldn't find the problem. I ended up getting a new one. Some time later I ended up taking the toner out of where it fits into the drum and there it was...a bit of paper that must have torn off.

These days I have a multi-function fax/copier/scanner which is neat, it can scan to email, network drive, pdf file or jpg, and lots of other stuff. I think I had an Epson between the two and that failed also. I'd never buy another one.

I currently have a Brother multi-function fax/copier/scanner. I don't use it often, but I find it useful. I probably scan more than I print.. I've found it useful to scan receipts & paperwork sometimes - When I bought my current car, I scanned all the paperwork to a PDF so I can look at it easily on my computer if I want to.

Nightfox

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wrote:

Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: nelgin to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Nov 12 2026 01:04 pm

I had a Brother monochrome laser. One day it had a paper jam. I
removed the paper but it still showed the same error. I ended up stripping that thing down and couldn't find the problem. I ended
up getting a new one. Some time later I ended up taking the
toner out of where it fits into the drum and there it was...a
bit of paper that must have torn off.

These days I have a multi-function fax/copier/scanner which is
neat, it can scan to email, network drive, pdf file or jpg, and
lots of other stuff. I think I had an Epson between the two and
that failed also. I'd never buy another one.

I currently have a Brother multi-function fax/copier/scanner. I
don't use it often, but I find it useful. I probably scan more than I
print.. I've found it useful to scan receipts & paperwork sometimes
- When I bought my current car, I scanned all the paperwork to a PDF
so I can look at it easily on my computer if I want to.

I don't scan as much as I should. Those receipts you get from Micro
Center that fade after 8 months and you need it in 10 for the warranty.

It would be better if it made searchable PDFs I guess. I guess the
thing I use it for the least is faxing. Do people still use those,
other than doctors and hospitals?
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nelgin wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

These days I have a multi-function fax/copier/scanner which is neat, it can scan to email, network drive, pdf file or jpg, and lots of other stuff. I think I had an Epson between the two and that failed also. I'd never buy another one.

I did finally figure out my wife's printer issue - DirectPrint. The
printer creates an ad-hoc wireless network that you can connect to to
print to it. As soon as I turned it off, print jobs that used to take
30 seconds to begin printing print immediately, and it doesn't fall off
the network like it used to. FIngers crossed.

I've gotten lucky with printers, I keep finding them on the road. I
found a nice looking Canon inkjet MFP, brought it home and it jammed on
the paper exit path. Turned out that a highlighter had rolled into the
exit path. Free printer and a free highlighter.

My neighbor moved out and left an old HP color laser MFP next to her
garbage can - it printed streaky, bad prints. The toner imaging drum
was full. Bought a replacement, prints like new.




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Nightfox wrote to nelgin <=-

I currently have a Brother multi-function fax/copier/scanner. I don't
use it often, but I find it useful. I probably scan more than I print..
I've found it useful to scan receipts & paperwork sometimes - When I bought my current car, I scanned all the paperwork to a PDF so I can
look at it easily on my computer if I want to.

When I went through a divorce, a Canon MFP came in handy. So! Much!
Paper!

I've been scanning all of my bank statements. Car paperwork is the one
thing I don't scan, I like being able to give the buyer all of the
service records in a folder.

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nelgin wrote to Nightfox <=-

It would be better if it made searchable PDFs I guess. I guess the
thing I use it for the least is faxing. Do people still use those,
other than doctors and hospitals?

I'm trying to remember - I dealt with some government body and fax was
one of their preferred methods of communication.

Some writers and celebrities loved fax machines, I know Hunter S.
Thompson would send hand-written notes by fax to his other fax-owning
friends. Maybe it was a literary thing?




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Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: nelgin to Nightfox on Thu Nov 12 2026 05:04 pm

I don't scan as much as I should. Those receipts you get from Micro Center that fade after 8 months and you need it in 10 for the warranty.

I wish we had a Micro Center in my area.. I've never been to one, but I've heard they're a good store. There's still an abandoned Fry's Electronics store in my area, and I keep thinking Micro Center could come in and use it for a location here.

It would be better if it made searchable PDFs I guess. I guess the thing I use it for the least is faxing. Do people still use those, other than doctors and hospitals?

I don't know.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Fri Nov 13 2026 07:36 am

I've been scanning all of my bank statements. Car paperwork is the one thing I don't scan, I like being able to give the buyer all of the service records in a folder.

I've scanned my purchase documents from when I bought my car, but I haven't scanned my service paperwork.. I've kept that in a folder for the same reason you mention - in case I sell my car, I'd like to be able to give that to the buyer.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: poindexter FORTRAN to nelgin on Fri Nov 13 2026 09:36 am

nelgin wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

These days I have a multi-function fax/copier/scanner which is neat, it can scan to email, network drive, pdf file or jpg, and lots of other stuff. I think I had an Epson between the two and that failed also. I'd never buy another one.

I did finally figure out my wife's printer issue - DirectPrint. The printer creates an ad-hoc wireless network that you can connect to to print to it. As soon as I turned it off, print jobs that used to take
30 seconds to begin printing print immediately, and it doesn't fall off the network like it used to. FIngers crossed.

I've gotten lucky with printers, I keep finding them on the road. I
found a nice looking Canon inkjet MFP, brought it home and it jammed on the paper exit path. Turned out that a highlighter had rolled into the exit path. Free printer and a free highlighter.

My neighbor moved out and left an old HP color laser MFP next to her garbage can - it printed streaky, bad prints. The toner imaging drum
was full. Bought a replacement, prints like new.

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who would want a printer when you can print at work?
printers are too much work, they're junk and ink is expensive.

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Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: Nightfox to nelgin on Fri Nov 13 2026 09:19 am

I wish we had a Micro Center in my area.. I've never been to one, but I've heard they're a good store. There's still an abandoned Fry's Electronics store in my area, and I keep thinking Micro Center could come in and use it for a location here.

Micro Centers are much smaller than Fry's (they don't sell appliances), so I don't think they'd want all that square footage.
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Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Nov 13 2026 01:53 pm

I wish we had a Micro Center in my area.. I've never been to one, but I've
heard they're a good store. There's still an abandoned Fry's Electronics
store in my area, and I keep thinking Micro Center could come in and use it
for a location here.

Micro Centers are much smaller than Fry's (they don't sell appliances), so I don't think they'd want all that square footage.

Makes sense. I knew they didn't sell appliances, but I didn't know how big their stores typically are.

They could demolish the current building and build a new one, but that would naturally be a lot more expensive than just building a new building or moving into an existing building.

Nightfox

Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: Nightfox to nelgin on Fri Nov 13 2026 09:19:54

I wish we had a Micro Center in my area.. I've never been to one, but I've heard they're a good store.

Back in the '90s-'00s, me and a guy I knew used to hit the MC in his area. We'd easily spend over an hour there, mostly in the DIY section checking out the lastest system components.

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Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Nov 13 2026 15:03:42

Makes sense. I knew they didn't sell appliances, but I didn't know how big their stores typically are.

No doubt it varies from store to store. The MC I went to I thought was rather large. They sections for software, pre-built computers, accessories, books/magazines, various hand-held electronics (cameras, media players, etc.) and my fav, the DIY section. I'd equate the size to a full-size Wallmart.

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Nightfox wrote to nelgin <=-

I wish we had a Micro Center in my area.. I've never been to one, but I've heard they're a good store. There's still an abandoned Fry's Electronics store in my area, and I keep thinking Micro Center could
come in and use it for a location here.

We had two Fry's Electronics near us - a generic one and a Mayan
pyramid-themed one. I was surprised that Microcenter picked a generic
building a few years later.

Kohl's took advantage of Mervyn's closure - Mervyn's was a bay area
department store chain. Kohl's took the stores over, left the layout
as-is, probably got some of the inventory for pennies on the dollar and
opened up quickly. I walked through a Kohl's and was hit with serious
deja vu - the Mervyn's was a goto store when I was growing up, and the
layout was exactly the same 20+ years later.



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Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri Nov 13 2026 01:53 pm

Micro Centers are much smaller than Fry's (they don't sell appliances), so I don't think they'd want all that square footage.

The new one here in Phoenix is pretty big, like warehouse sized and probably just as big as the two Fry's Electronics we had. I was actually surprised at the location they chose for ours, because they totally could have used the old Fry's ones. I suppose the new location is more "central" to the whole valley, though. Fry's had one on the northwest side of town and one on the southeast.

I think the building they're in might've been a furniture warehouse just before.. and possibly a Circuit City long ago.

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Re: Re: Last legacy printer
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Sat Nov 14 2026 01:53 pm

Kohl's took advantage of Mervyn's closure - Mervyn's was a bay area department store chain. Kohl's took the stores over, left the layout

I remember Mervyn's. And around 25 years ago, I remember they had a line of "Mervyn's California" clothing (at least, I believe it was clothing).

Nightfox