Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
randomly turning off for no reason?

Could be either. Do you know the operating range of your processor and have a way to check it's current temp?

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Could be either. Do you know the operating range of your processor and have a
way to check it's current temp?

I think I would likely need to try Speccy. I also downgraded the
graphics performance of my mmo during the hot weather to directx 9
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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
randomly turning off for no reason?

In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
randomly turning off for no reason?

there is a good chance that it's over heating, try moving it to a cooler spot or add a fan.
1st thing I would do though is un plug it pull off side panels and take it outside, then I would use my air compresser to blow out all the dust bunnies. or canned air would also work.
you could also go into bios and see what your CPU temp is.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to All on Sat Jul 08 2017 12:49 pm

Would heat be the big issue or hardware failure if my computer is
randomly turning off for no reason?

so you checked your temps on your cpu and motherboard and what are they?
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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Denn Gray to Matthew Munson on Sat Jul 08 2017 03:42 pm

there is a good chance that it's over heating, try moving it to a cooler spot or add a fan.
1st thing I would do though is un plug it pull off side panels and take it outside, then I would use my air compresser to blow out all the dust bunnies. or canned air would also work.
you could also go into bios and see what your CPU temp is.

for years i just used to have a boxfan on my computers. now i just have a real good computer and video card that doesnt fucking overheat.
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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Mro to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 09 2017 12:44 am

there is a good chance that it's over heating, try moving it to a
cooler spot or add a fan.
1st thing I would do though is un plug it pull off side panels and
take it outside, then I would use my air compresser to blow out all
the dust bunnies. or canned air would also work.
you could also go into bios and see what your CPU temp is.

for years i just used to have a boxfan on my computers. now i just have a real good computer and video card that doesnt fucking overheat.

My computer is right by the central air duct in my Den, I do take it and blow it out occasionally I am thinking about gettin a new motherboard cpu mem combo this PC is getting old and I need something that will rip my DVD'd to MKV faster, right now it takes 3 hours per DVD.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Denn Gray to Mro on Sun Jul 09 2017 07:11 am

My computer is right by the central air duct in my Den, I do take it and blow it out occasionally I am thinking about gettin a new motherboard cpu mem combo this PC is getting old and I need something that will rip my DVD'd to MKV faster, right now it takes 3 hours per DVD.

Just curious: what software do you use for ripping DVDs?

digital man

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Digital Man to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 09 2017 12:41 pm

motherboard cpu mem combo this PC is getting old and I need something
that will rip my DVD'd to MKV faster, right now it takes 3 hours per
DVD.

Just curious: what software do you use for ripping DVDs?

digital man

Any Video Converter Deluxe.

With the right CPU and graphics card its supposed to rip a DVD to MKV or MP4 in 15 minutes, but my setup was bought in like 2005 so its out dated for the video stuff.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Denn Gray to Digital Man on Sun Jul 09 2017 03:32 pm

With the right CPU and graphics card its supposed to rip a DVD to MKV or MP4 in 15 minutes, but my setup was bought in like 2005 so its out dated for the video stuff.

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In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.

Is there a way to test a power supply?

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In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.

Is there a way to test a power supply?

Easiest way is to substitute a known good one.

Otherwise you'd need to check voltges (under load) and a CRO for checking supply ripple would be handy too.


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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Mro to Denn Gray on Sun Jul 09 2017 06:34 pm

With the right CPU and graphics card its supposed to rip a DVD to MKV
or MP4 in 15 minutes, but my setup was bought in like 2005 so its out
dated for the video stuff.

i doubt it could rip and encode a dvd into a format that looks good in 15 mins.

you could be right.
I have dual dvd burners on this old PC and I start the encoding and click the checkbox that turns of the PC when it's done, then I goto bed :)
this old PC still works pretty good.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to DEEPTHAW on Sun Jul 09 2017 03:13 am

In addition to what Digital Man said, a bad power supply can cause it too.

Is there a way to test a power supply?

meter.

you never posted your temps.
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you never posted your temps.

63C

i7-3700

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to DEEPTHAW on Sun Jul 09 2017 03:13 am

Is there a way to test a power supply?

You can buy a power supply tester NewEgg or Amazon for pretty cheap. I've used them, they're not hard to figure out.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

you never posted your temps.

63C

ok that's apx 155 F
for an i7 that seems pretty normal.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

you never posted your temps.

63C

i7-3700

Actually I just googled temps for the i7 its a little high.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

you never posted your temps.

63C

i7-3700

that's a little hot but not bad. is that WHILE gaming?
i have an i7 7700 and it's min 32.5 max 54.5c
not gaming right now.

crappy gforce 1050ti is 27c
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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Denn Gray to Matthew Munson on Mon Jul 10 2017 07:45 am

Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Sun Jul 09 2017 11:38 am

you never posted your temps.

63C

i7-3700

Actually I just googled temps for the i7 its a little high.

he probably needs to clean off his thermal paste and apply some new stuff.

but he probably has a hw problem that is causing the rebooting. he needs to trouble shoot.
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Mro wrote to Denn Gray <=-

he probably needs to clean off his thermal paste and apply some new
stuff.

but he probably has a hw problem that is causing the rebooting. he
needs to trouble shoot.

The top 3 culprits for random reboots that I've seen are:

Overheating CPU.
Faulty RAM.
Faulty power supply.

I have also seen a faulty motherboard do it too.

In all cases, except the first (because diagnostics are available in the BIOS), substitution of suspect components is the best way to troubleshoot. CPU overheating is usually caused by either faulty heatsink mounting, or a failed CPU fan.

Last problem of this nature I've dealt with was a faulty power supply, easy $50 fix. :)


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Re: Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Vk3jed to Mro on Tue Jul 11 2017 03:23 pm

Overheating CPU.
Faulty RAM.
Faulty power supply.
I have also seen a faulty motherboard do it too.

Sorry to jump on your thread! Overheating CPU, alot of times cleaning the old Thermal Paste off the heatsink and CPU & reapplying will work ! =) (I prefer arctic silver)

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Re: Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Vk3jed to Mro on Tue Jul 11 2017 03:23 pm

Mro wrote to Denn Gray <=-

he probably needs to clean off his thermal paste and apply some new stuff.

but he probably has a hw problem that is causing the rebooting. he needs to trouble shoot.

The top 3 culprits for random reboots that I've seen are:

Overheating CPU.
Faulty RAM.
Faulty power supply.

I have also seen a faulty motherboard do it too.

i've had bad memory a few times, and that just caused crazy random corruption shit to happen.
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Sorry to jump on your thread! Overheating CPU, alot of times cleaning
the old Thermal Paste off the heatsink and CPU & reapplying will work !
=) (I prefer arctic silver)

I've only struck this issue once, had a lot more CPU fans die in the early Pentium days. Modern CPU fans seem to be extremely reliable.


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Mro wrote to Vk3jed <=-

i've had bad memory a few times, and that just caused crazy random corruption shit to happen.

Related - mismatched RAM can also cause instability. I've found it easiest to buy all of my RAM at once from the same source. On the occasions I've later added RAM to a system, I've found the odds of incompatibility to be high. As a resuly, when buying a new system, I go for as much RAM as I can afford, then never touch it.


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Re: Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Vk3jed to Mro on Wed Jul 12 2017 08:33 am

Related - mismatched RAM can also cause instability. I've found it easiest to buy all of my RAM at once from the same source. On the occasions I've later added RAM to a system, I've found the odds of incompatibility to be high. As a resuly, when buying a new system, I go for as much RAM as I can afford, then never touch it.

If I'm adding RAM, I usually make sure I buy the same brand and type to match my existing RAM. I haven't had many issues..

Nightfox

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If I'm adding RAM, I usually make sure I buy the same brand and type to match my existing RAM. I haven't had many issues..

Yeah, I've found it hard to match RAM if there's been some time between purchases, easiest to buy all your RAM at the one time. I've had issues on a couple of occasions. The first was with a desktop I went to add RAM to. Think I ended up buying a second stick and replacing the original RAM, so it had a matched pair. The second was an old Dell laptop. I never got this upgrade to work, because the original 256M was soldered in, and I couldn't get a close enough match for stability. :(


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that's a little hot but not bad. is that WHILE gaming?
i have an i7 7700 and it's min 32.5 max 54.5c
not gaming right now.

crappy gforce 1050ti is 27c

Its while gaming. And i run an amd 480 as my gpu.

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Actually I just googled temps for the i7 its a little high.

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Re: Computer randomly turning
By: Matthew Munson to MRO on Thu Jul 13 2017 09:11 am

that's a little hot but not bad. is that WHILE gaming?
i have an i7 7700 and it's min 32.5 max 54.5c
not gaming right now.

crappy gforce 1050ti is 27c

Its while gaming. And i run an amd 480 as my gpu.

that's not that hot if it's while gaming.
200f is where i would be worried.
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