Re: CB radio operations
By: MisterLady to All on Sun May 13 2012 03:03 pm

Hello everybody im new to whole BBS thing but I was wondering if anyof you guys here ever get on the CB band? or CB ssb?

Not me... I used to have CB in my truck years ago and used it for the regular road chatter thing, and I had some handheld units I've since given away that I used while fishing/camping/hiking, but I'm a very "by the book" type of guy, so
the whole illegal CB operating thing doesn't appeal to me.

It's quite possible that my CB usage kept my interest in amateur radio alive before I could afford it though, it's hard to say. I never really used SSB at any point.

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Re: CB radio operations
By: MisterLady to All on Sun May 13 2012 03:03 pm

Hello everybody im new to whole BBS thing but I was wondering if anyof you guys here ever get on the CB band? or CB ssb?

Yeah, I still monitor the CB bands now and then, including channels 37+ on LSB.

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Re: CB radio operations
By: MisterLady to All on Sun May 13 2012 03:03 pm

Hello everybody im new to whole BBS thing but I was wondering if anyof you guys here ever get on the CB band? or CB ssb?

Not me... I used to have CB in my truck years ago and used it for the regular road chatter thing, and I had some handheld units I've since
given away that I used while fishing/camping/hiking, but I'm a very "by the book" type of guy, so the whole illegal CB operating thing doesn't appeal to me.

Illegal?


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Re: Re: CB radio operations
By: Dreamer to Deuce on Tue May 15 2012 16:47:00

the book" type of guy, so the whole illegal CB operating thing doesn't appeal to me.

Illegal?

CB itself is legal of course, however there are regulations that many operators defy and may be unaware of.

Among others, in CB there are restrictions on antenna height, continuous transmission time and content of transmissions. You may only use (in the US) FCC certified equipment, and you may not attach a linear amplifier to your rig or modify / try to increase the power output of your rig. You can only output up to 4W carrier (AM) or 12W PEP (SSB). You aren't even allowed to communicate with a station more than 155-ish miles away. (The list goes on and on -
see part 95 of title 47 of the Code of Federal Regulations.)

So while it's a band that doesn't require licensing, there are still plenty of rules to break (and many people break them) resulting in illegal operations. My understanding is that enforcement is lax to the point where one might
assume there are no rules at all.

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Re: Re: CB radio operations
By: Dreamer to Deuce on Tue May 15 2012 04:47 pm

Not me... I used to have CB in my truck years ago and used it for the regular road chatter thing, and I had some handheld units I've since given away that I used while fishing/camping/hiking, but I'm a very
"by the book" type of guy, so the whole illegal CB operating thing doesn't appeal to me.

Illegal?

More than 4W AM, 12W SSB
Antenna more than 60 feet above the ground or 20 feet above the roof
Radio not type certified
Radio modified
Amplifier connected
Transmitting obscene, entertainment, or sound effects to attract attention Communicating more than 250km
Communicating longer than five minutes

These are the main rules that CB operators tend to violate for fun. Following all of these rules makes for a dull and boring hobby.

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Re: Re: CB radio operations
By: Deuce to Dreamer on Tue May 15 2012 09:25 pm

More than 4W AM, 12W SSB
Antenna more than 60 feet above the ground or 20 feet above the roof
Radio not type certified
Radio modified
Amplifier connected
Transmitting obscene, entertainment, or sound effects to attract attention Communicating more than 250km
Communicating longer than five minutes

Basically why I got my ham license.... ;-)
Funny thing about it... I wanted my license to be able to use a radio
with 100 watts of power legally. I'm using my 2 meter/75cm hand held
with 1 watt of power that I can afford. But thanks to PhantomRage for
telling me about EchoLink ... I talked today to a guy from Canada, and
for info, I'm in Brookhaven Mississippi right now. I connected to Nevada's
repeater and he connected to the repeater and we talked long enough to
burn the two pizzas in the oven... ;-) Talk about fun! Really wild that
I used to like having a base station so I didn't have to go outside to the
truck... But here, my laptop was a base station! With Echolink, I could
turn my laptop into a massive ham radio with antenaes all over the world,
and anywhere I have internet access, I can pick up people all over on
different frequencies! I was amazed at how much it was like a real HAM!
I saw a thing say press space to talk and I thought "Yeah right, how?"
I figured it'd be digital text only, but you hook up a microphone and
press the space bar and your pushing the remote PTT and talking live!
unfortiantly a lot of people are constantly keying up and not talking or
don't have a working microphone, but there's a lot of people that are
using a working microphone out there!

KF5QEO as of yesterday!

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Re: Re: CB radio operations
By: John Guillory to Deuce on Wed May 16 2012 12:44:06

telling me about EchoLink ... I talked today to a guy from Canada, and
for info, I'm in Brookhaven Mississippi right now. I connected to Nevada
repeater and he connected to the repeater and we talked long enough to
burn the two pizzas in the oven... ;-) Talk about fun! Really wild that
I used to like having a base station so I didn't have to go outside to th
truck... But here, my laptop was a base station! With Echolink, I could
turn my laptop into a massive ham radio with antenaes all over the world,
and anywhere I have internet access, I can pick up people all over on
different frequencies! I was amazed at how much it was like a real HAM!

Echolink and similar have many detractors, and you may hear some negative commentary about it. I think that it's fun and has its uses. I believe the main gripe that the old-timers have against it is that they feel it instills a false sense of accomplishment in some (typically new) operators. It's fun and a good way to connect with other operators, but lest we forget that it's VoIP with perhaps a radio on one end of the call or another, so the distances are sort of meaningless.

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Re: CB radio operations
By: Deuce to MisterLady on Sun May 13 2012 02:31 pm

Not me... I used to have CB in my truck years ago and used it for the regula road chatter thing, and I had some handheld units I've since given away that used while fishing/camping/hiking, but I'm a very "by the book" type of guy, the whole illegal CB operating thing doesn't appeal to me.

My older was a CBer in the 1970s when it was popular. He too the next step and became a ham. He held on to his novice license for YEARS until he finally decided to upgrade to get his extra class in 2006. He now enjoys getting on HF on a regular basis.

(I haven't gotten my HF rig yet, that will have to wait until I move to my new house)


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Re: Re: CB radio operations
By: Dreamer to Deuce on Tue May 15 2012 16:47:00

the book" type of guy, so the whole illegal CB operating thing doesn't appeal to me.

Illegal?

CB itself is legal of course, however there are regulations that many operators defy and may be unaware of.

Ah, yeah, I was one of the few who actually read and followed the regs
when I was CBing. I just had an "excuse me?" moment... ;)

So while it's a band that doesn't require licensing, there are still plenty of rules to break (and many people break them) resulting in
illegal operations. My understanding is that enforcement is lax to the point where one might assume there are no rules at all.

It's definitely a wild west scenario. I've heard many stories of
teenagers getting so annoying they were triangulated and had their
coax cut (if they were lucky).


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More than 4W AM, 12W SSB
Antenna more than 60 feet above the ground or 20 feet above the roof
Radio not type certified
Radio modified
Amplifier connected
Transmitting obscene, entertainment, or sound effects to attract
attention Communicating more than 250km
Communicating longer than five minutes

These are the main rules that CB operators tend to violate for fun. Following all of these rules makes for a dull and boring hobby.

I made some great friends in my days on the CB, but I'll definitely
admit it wasn't for everyone. Long nights debating politics, physics,
swapping recipes, chatting about the latest in computers, and so on...
at 16-20, most of my friends were partying it up. They were probably
also the ones on CH14 making all the noise. lol


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Re: Re: CB radio operations
By: Dreamer to Deuce on Wed May 16 2012 10:06 pm

I made some great friends in my days on the CB, but I'll definitely
admit it wasn't for everyone. Long nights debating politics, physics, swapping recipes, chatting about the latest in computers, and so on...
at 16-20, most of my friends were partying it up. They were probably
also the ones on CH14 making all the noise. lol

We didn't have enough people in the area for that. I would guess that total population within 250km was on the order of 8000 people.

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