Hello everybody.

Ryan Jerome was enjoying his first trip to New York City on business when the former Marine Corps gunner walked up to a security officer at the Empire State Building and asked where he should check his gun.

That was when Jeromes nightmare began. The security officer called police and Jerome spent the next two days in jail.

The 28-year-old with no criminal history now faces a mandatory minimum sentence of three and a half years in prison. If convicted, his sentence could be as high as fifteen years.

Jerome has a valid concealed carry permit in Indiana and visited New York believing that it was legal to bring his firearm. He was traveling with $15,000 worth of jewelry that he planned to sell.

The online gun-law information Jerome read was inaccurate, however, and his late September arrest initiated what may become a protracted criminal saga. He hasnt yet been indicted by a grand jury, but there may be little legal wiggle-room if he is.

If he does get indicted, and they want to give him something less, then the legal minimum would be two years, noted Mark Bederow, Jeromes attorney. They couldnt even offer less if they wanted to. (RELATED: The Daily Callers Guns and Gear section)

Jerome isnt the first out-of-state visitor to volunteer that they had a gun, only to be put through the wringer. In December, Tennessee nurse Meredith Graves noticed a no guns sign at the World Trade Center site and asked where she could leave her weapon, only to face similar charges.



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/03/marine-faces-fifteen-years-behind-bars-for-un knowingly-violating-gun-law/#ixzz1iQRdJBhX


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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: Matt Munson to All on Tue Jan 03 2012 11:34 am

Jerome isnt the first out-of-state visitor to volunteer that they had a gun, Jerome has a valid concealed carry permit in Indiana and visited New York be The online gun-law information Jerome read was inaccurate, however, and his If he does get indicted, and they want to give him something less, then the

Sounds like a job for jury nullification. If only he could get a compassionate, rational jury.

As someone once said, "12 people who cannot manage to get out of jury duty are NOT my peers".

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If the people of New York don't want any guns then I hope that if the schist ever hits the fan that their neighbors let them fight with sicks and clubs.. If they don't want guns..they don't want defence... Guns are our liberty teeth... Maybe New Yorkers like being defenseless?

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Re: Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: Rastus to Matt Munson on Wed Jan 04 2012 11:43 am

If the people of New York don't want any guns then I hope that if the schist ever hits the fan that their neighbors let them fight with sicks and clubs.. If they don't want guns..they don't want defence... Guns are our liberty teeth... Maybe New Yorkers like being defenseless?

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I'm sure they trust that the Police will always be there to serve their interests. Why can't you put all your trust in the state?

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For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to Rastus:

If they don't want guns..they don't want defense... Guns are
our liberty teeth... Maybe New Yorkers like being defenseless?

I'm sure they trust that the Police will always be there to
serve their interests. Why can't you put all your trust in the
state?

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, your pizza will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what are you gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: The Curmudgeon to Boraxman on Sat Jan 07 2012 01:59 pm

Subject: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
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For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to Rastus:

If they don't want guns..they don't want defense... Guns are
our liberty teeth... Maybe New Yorkers like being defenseless?

I'm sure they trust that the Police will always be there to
serve their interests. Why can't you put all your trust in the
state?

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, your piz will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what are y gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: The Curmudgeon to Boraxman on Sat Jan 07 2012 01:59 pm

For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to Rastus:

If they don't want guns..they don't want defense... Guns are
our liberty teeth... Maybe New Yorkers like being defenseless?

I'm sure they trust that the Police will always be there to
serve their interests. Why can't you put all your trust in the
state?

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, your piz will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what are y gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

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The cops get paid either way. Some pizza parlours have to give you your pizza free if they are late.

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Boraxman wrote:

Re: Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: Rastus to Matt Munson on Wed Jan 04 2012 11:43 am

If the people of New York don't want any guns then I hope that if the schist ever hits the fan that their neighbors let them fight with sicks and clubs..
If they don't want guns..they don't want defence... Guns are our
liberty teeth... Maybe New Yorkers like being defenseless?

I'm sure they trust that the Police will always be there to serve their interests. Why can't you put all your trust in the state?

That's satire, right?

Do you really want me to rant about The State?

Thank God, I'm a country boy.. Redneck and proud of it.. Liberal Redneck
that is....

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For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to The Curmudgeon:

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, your piz will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what are y gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

The cops get paid either way. Some pizza parlours have to give
you your pizza free if they are late.

Yes but you're missing the point... in many areas it takes 20 minutes or more to get to the crime scene and a lot can and usually does happen in that time. They are understaffed and underpaid for the work they do and being understaffed
often means the slow response time. I'd rather have some of my own protection in that case rather than having the police show up with the coroner in tow.


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For reasons unknown to us Corey said thus to The Curmudgeon:

help help, my arms are on fire!

Hmmm, anyone ever tell you that you are a very strange dude? :)

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For reasons unknown to us Rastus said thus to Boraxman:

I'm sure they trust that the Police will always be there to
serve their interests. Why can't you put all your trust in the
state?

That's satire, right?

I would hope so.. the alternative isn't pretty. :)

Do you really want me to rant about The State?

Ummm, would it take up more than 20 pages? :)

Thank God, I'm a country boy.. Redneck and proud of it..
Liberal Redneck that is....

woot... woot... wait a minute... are you sure Liberal and Redneck go together?
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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: The Curmudgeon to Boraxman on Thu Jan 12 2012 02:08 am

For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to The Curmudgeon:

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, your will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what ar gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

The cops get paid either way. Some pizza parlours have to give
you your pizza free if they are late.

Yes but you're missing the point... in many areas it takes 20 minutes or mo to get to the crime scene and a lot can and usually does happen in that time They are understaffed and underpaid for the work they do and being understaf often means the slow response time. I'd rather have some of my own protecti in that case rather than having the police show up with the coroner in tow.

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Seeing as the police nowadays from hearing all the news stories that they are
a corrupt organization and needs more than just a bandaid to fix the problem with. *sighs* i had two police officers who came to my house on a report that
I made about a stalking incident and they were just rookies since they didn't do their job properly and said and I quote. "We Support the suspects, not the victims." What kind of idiotic tripe is that? I was tempted to report them to the police commission but what good does that do? It doesn't even solve the problem.

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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: The Curmudgeon to Corey on Thu Jan 12 2012 02:12 am

For reasons unknown to us Corey said thus to The Curmudgeon:

help help, my arms are on fire!

Hmmm, anyone ever tell you that you are a very strange dude? :)

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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: The Curmudgeon to Rastus on Thu Jan 12 2012 02:14 am

For reasons unknown to us Rastus said thus to Boraxman:

I'm sure they trust that the Police will always be there to
serve their interests. Why can't you put all your trust in the
state?

That's satire, right?

I would hope so.. the alternative isn't pretty. :)

Do you really want me to rant about The State?

Ummm, would it take up more than 20 pages? :)

Thank God, I'm a country boy.. Redneck and proud of it..
Liberal Redneck that is....

woot... woot... wait a minute... are you sure Liberal and Redneck go togeth :)

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For reasons unknown to us The Millionaire said thus to The Curmudgeon:

woot... woot... wait a minute... are you sure Liberal and
Redneck go togeth :)

Im a Liberal too. Woohoo! Welcome to the party, pal! :-)

:) Well... I'm one of those Conservative Republicans but that's ok... some of
my best friends are liberal. :)

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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YORK STATE WITH your gun
By: The Curmudgeon to The Millionaire on Mon Jan 16 2012 12:46 am

For reasons unknown to us The Millionaire said thus to The Curmudgeon:

woot... woot... wait a minute... are you sure Liberal and
Redneck go togeth :)

Im a Liberal too. Woohoo! Welcome to the party, pal! :-)

:) Well... I'm one of those Conservative Republicans but that's ok... some my best friends are liberal. :)

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The Curmudgeon wrote to Boraxman <=-

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For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to The Curmudgeon:

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, your piz will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what are y gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

The cops get paid either way. Some pizza parlours have to give
you your pizza free if they are late.

Yes but you're missing the point... in many areas it takes 20 minutes
or more to get to the crime scene and a lot can and usually does happen
in that time. They are understaffed and underpaid for the work they do
and being understaffed often means the slow response time. I'd rather have some of my own protection in that case rather than having the
police show up with the coroner in tow.

the sucking thing about the police is they are responsive to most crimes not preventative.

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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YO
By: Bbsing.Bbs to The Curmudgeon on Wed Feb 08 2012 08:13 pm

The Curmudgeon wrote to Boraxman <=-

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For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to The Curmudgeon:

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, your will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what ar gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

The cops get paid either way. Some pizza parlours have to give
you your pizza free if they are late.

Yes but you're missing the point... in many areas it takes 20 minutes or more to get to the crime scene and a lot can and usually does happen in that time. They are understaffed and underpaid for the work they do and being understaffed often means the slow response time. I'd rather have some of my own protection in that case rather than having the police show up with the coroner in tow.

the sucking thing about the police is they are responsive to most crimes not preventative.

2 arms! 2 arms, we all have 2 arms!
the founding fathers said, we have a right to BEAR arms.
not wolf arms, not weazel arms, but Bear arms.

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Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YO
By: Corey to Bbsing.Bbs on Wed Feb 08 2012 09:16 pm

Re: WARNING dont visit NEW YO
By: Bbsing.Bbs to The Curmudgeon on Wed Feb 08 2012 08:13 pm

The Curmudgeon wrote to Boraxman <=-

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For reasons unknown to us Boraxman said thus to The Curmudgeon:

Probably because if you call the police and the local pizza place, yo will be there before the police arrive. It's a common problem so what gonna do if someone breaks into your house or apartment....

The cops get paid either way. Some pizza parlours have to give
you your pizza free if they are late.

Yes but you're missing the point... in many areas it takes 20 minut or more to get to the crime scene and a lot can and usually does hap in that time. They are understaffed and underpaid for the work they and being understaffed often means the slow response time. I'd rath have some of my own protection in that case rather than having the police show up with the coroner in tow.

the sucking thing about the police is they are responsive to most crimes preventative.

2 arms! 2 arms, we all have 2 arms!
the founding fathers said, we have a right to BEAR arms.
not wolf arms, not weazel arms, but Bear arms.

"Practise safe Lunch, Use a Condiment"

Or stalking either. They don't seem to care unless it's threatening their police station.

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