I have a few randoms. Can anyone tell me a good telnet program to use. I googled and found nothing. Also I have been thinking about starting a full time bbs again. I know synchronet is good, but are their any others. I seen Mystic, it seemed pretty cool. But other than that I don't have a clue. I want to find one that supports all the things synchronet does. I know mystic supports most things. What other options are there?

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Nightfox wrote to Keysofsolomon <=-

googled and found nothing. Also I have been thinking about starting a full time bbs again. I know synchronet is good, but are their any others.

Synchronet is indeed good, and of course there are others. There's Enthral, which is an ongoing project, and EleBBS, and as you mentioned Mystic, among others.

seen Mystic, it seemed pretty cool. But other than that I don't have a clue. I want to find one that supports all the things synchronet does. I know mystic supports most things. What other options are there?

Can you be more specific? What things do you want? The various BBS packages do support some things and have some cool stuff, which lets
you do various stuff & things. ;)

Several years ago I tried many different systems, some old and
unsupported, others newer and under fresh development.

I'd have to say EleBBS is the closest capability-wise to Synchronet.
It has an addon to support Web access, supports doors in a similar way
to Synchronet, etc. I didn't look too closely at the software, but I
don't think it's quite as powerful when it comes to scripting (eg,
Synchronet's terminal and web javascript support), but I'm fairly
certain as far as user-friendliness it's the next best 'ware to
Synchronet.

--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
■ Synchronet ■ Sovereign State BBS

Re: randoms
By: Nightfox to Keysofsolomon on Sat Sep 07 2013 01:04 am

Re: randoms
By: Keysofsolomon to All on Fri Sep 06 2013 23:43:00

I have a few randoms. Can anyone tell me a good telnet program to use. googled and found nothing.

I'm sure if you Googled around a bit more, you'd find some. That's how I fo them. Here are a few of my favorite BBS telnet programs:
SyncTerm:
http://syncterm.bbsdev.net/
NetRunner:
http://www.mysticbbs.com/downloads.html
mTelnet:
http://mt32.bbses.info/

googled and found nothing. Also I have been thinking about starting a f time bbs again. I know synchronet is good, but are their any others.

Synchronet is indeed good, and of course there are others. There's Enthral, which is an ongoing project, and EleBBS, and as you mentioned Mystic, among others.

seen Mystic, it seemed pretty cool. But other than that I don't have a clue. I want to find one that supports all the things synchronet does. know mystic supports most things. What other options are there?

Can you be more specific? What things do you want? The various BBS package do support some things and have some cool stuff, which lets you do various stuff & things. ;)

Nightfox

Those old dos telnet clients will not run on my os for some reason. And I am looking for bbs software that can use http for most things except maybe doors. I know this can be done with synch, but it's a lot of work. And just some ideas of things people have seen before and wish it was still around. I don't want it to be like everyone elses.
Sacred geometry, the key to it all...

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Several years ago I tried many different systems, some old and unsupported, others newer and under fresh development.

I'd have to say EleBBS is the closest capability-wise to Synchronet.
It has an addon to support Web access, supports doors in a similar way
to Synchronet, etc. I didn't look too closely at the software, but I don't think it's quite as powerful when it comes to scripting (eg, Synchronet's terminal and web javascript support), but I'm fairly
certain as far as user-friendliness it's the next best 'ware to Synchronet.

I would say Mystic is even closer to Synchronet that EleBBS. Mystic has most
of the main servers (nntp, smtp, etc.), save the web interface. There is work being done on integrating a binkp mailer and QWK networking (like Synchronet). What make Synchronet more powerful to me are the extras like built-in finger, JSON, and QOTD services. The somewhat modular and extendable architecture is quite attractive.

Alas, one of Synchronet's greatest strengths is one of its' greatest weaknesses. Not all of us wish to be full-blown programmers, and with javascript you almost have to be. I have yet to find uncomplicated and straightforward tutorials on this type of console js programming. I've been trying to learn from the existing code, but reading it is like reading Java
and makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a spoon. And don't get me started on the web interface. It's been giving me headaches for a while now.

--Draco

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Re: randoms
By: Keysofsolomon to Nightfox on Sun Sep 08 2013 01:00 am

around. I don't want it to be like everyone elses.
Sacred geometry, the key to it all...

Sorry to butt it, but that's the point I like most about Synchronet. You can make it look and feel any way you want, it's very flexable. I've been running
a BBS from 1991 till now, and I've run from the start, Telix Host, PCBoard, GAP, Remote Access, ELE BBS, back to GAP, then finally, Synchronet. GAP and RA, were my favorites, but I really Love Synchronet for all of what it does, and the reliability. I was a beta tester for GAP and I miss those days, as Kenny would do his best to implement any feature we wanted. I don't know Rob, but I feel he is the same way. Synchronet is a quality, and professional software that is still being supported, and I have stopped looking.

- C.G. Learn
- Valhalla Home Services! - Telnet://valhalla.synchro.net
- A Gamers Paradise - Over 100 Registered Online Game Doors!


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I'd have to say EleBBS is the closest capability-wise to Synchronet.
It has an addon to support Web access, supports doors in a similar way
to Synchronet, etc. I didn't look too closely at the software, but I don't think it's quite as powerful when it comes to scripting (eg, Synchronet's terminal and web javascript support), but I'm fairly
certain as far as user-friendliness it's the next best 'ware to Synchronet.

Does EleBBS have a built in tosser AND mailer? If so, then you may be right. Otherwise I'd have to say Mystic has taken that spot over, and may soon be right on par with Synchronet, if not even include more features (like a mailer, which Synchronet doesn't have).

When was the last update to EleBBS? I thought development had stopped on it quite a few years ago.

Regards,
Nick


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Re: randoms
By: DesotoFireflite to Keysofsolomon on Sun Sep 08 2013 05:06 am

Re: randoms
By: Keysofsolomon to Nightfox on Sun Sep 08 2013 01:00 am

around. I don't want it to be like everyone elses.
Sacred geometry, the key to it all...

Sorry to butt it, but that's the point I like most about Synchronet. You can make it look and feel any way you want, it's very flexable. I've been runnin a BBS from 1991 till now, and I've run from the start, Telix Host, PCBoard, GAP, Remote Access, ELE BBS, back to GAP, then finally, Synchronet. GAP and were my favorites, but I really Love Synchronet for all of what it does, and the reliability. I was a beta tester for GAP and I miss those days, as Kenny would do his best to implement any feature we wanted. I don't know Rob, but feel he is the same way. Synchronet is a quality, and professional software that is still being supported, and I have stopped looking.

- C.G. Learn
- Valhalla Home Services! - Telnet://valhalla.synchro.net
- A Gamers Paradise - Over 100 Registered Online Game Doors!

Yeah, I may just stick with synchronet. It's all that java programing that makes me turn my back on it though. No offense but things can be customized just as easy with menu editors and what not. I think java is a good core for synchronet. But I do not believe it should be the only method of modding. That probably turns alot of people away from the bbs scene..
Other than that the software is great. It's tied well to other boards. Easy qwk network setups, ect.

I know this may seem off subject, but are any doors compatible with 64bit windows 8. I am having a hard time finding any that work with no compatibility issues.

Sacred geometry, the key to it all...

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Re: randoms
By: Keysofsolomon to DesotoFireflite on Sun Sep 08 2013 04:29 pm

I know this may seem off subject, but are any doors compatible with 64bit windows 8. I am having a hard time finding any that work with no compatibility issues.

From what I understand, you have to have a 32 bit version to run the old 16 bit doors. I have a 64 bit version on my MacBook pro, and I was feeling lazy today, so I decided to fire up thrdraw from the server, and I couldn't even do that, so it's either run a VM in a 64 bit version, or stick with 32 bit versions altogeather. I run xp pro on the bbs server, so as long as everything works, I don't worry about it. Al Lawrence of Sunrise Doors has some 32 bit doors that may run on windows 64 bit software, but I'm not sure. Hope this helped some.

- C.G. Learn
- Valhalla Home Services! - Telnet://valhalla.synchro.net
- A Gamers Paradise - Over 100 Registered Online Game Doors!



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Re: randoms
By: DesotoFireflite to Keysofsolomon on Sun Sep 08 2013 06:41 pm

Re: randoms
By: Keysofsolomon to DesotoFireflite on Sun Sep 08 2013 04:29 pm

I know this may seem off subject, but are any doors compatible with 64b windows 8. I am having a hard time finding any that work with no compatibility issues.

From what I understand, you have to have a 32 bit version to run the old 16 doors. I have a 64 bit version on my MacBook pro, and I was feeling lazy tod so I decided to fire up thrdraw from the server, and I couldn't even do that so it's either run a VM in a 64 bit version, or stick with 32 bit versions altogeather. I run xp pro on the bbs server, so as long as everything works, don't worry about it. Al Lawrence of Sunrise Doors has some 32 bit doors tha may run on windows 64 bit software, but I'm not sure. Hope this helped some.

- C.G. Learn
- Valhalla Home Services! - Telnet://valhalla.synchro.net
- A Gamers Paradise - Over 100 Registered Online Game Doors!

Thanks man, yeah I was under the impression I would have to run a virtual machine. Cool thing is I have an old xp machine. AND BOY is it slow lol.
maybe I could run it on there. I know doing anything on it is a real chore due to it's speed. I will look into Sunrise doors.
Thanks once again, take care.
Sacred geometry, the key to it all...

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Re: randoms
By: Keysofsolomon to DesotoFireflite on Sun Sep 08 2013 16:29:00

Yeah, I may just stick with synchronet. It's all that java programing that makes me turn my back on it though. No offense but things can be

Javascript, not Java. A great many customizations can be made without delving into that, though.

customized just as easy with menu editors and what not. I think java is a good core for synchronet. But I do not believe it should be the only method of modding. That probably turns alot of people away from the bbs scene.. Other than that the software is great. It's tied well to other boards. Easy qwk network setups, ect.

JS is neither the core of Synchronet nor are you required to know it in order to mod your BBS. That said, if you do learn it you can do a lot more with your system (and apply that knowledge elsewhere, if you so desire.)

I hope that some perceived learning curve doesn't and doubt that it does turn a lot of people away from BBSing. After all, Synchronet may be popular, but it isn't the only thing going. There are plenty of alternatives for people who find Synchronet to be daunting.

I know this may seem off subject, but are any doors compatible with 64bit windows 8. I am having a hard time finding any that work with no compatibility issues.

If you really want to run your BBS on 64-bit Windows, your time may be better invested in finding ways to make old door games run. There may be a few games that will run, but they'll be greatly outnumbered by those that won't.

echicken
electronic chicken bbs - bbs.electronicchicken.com - 416-273-7230

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Re: Re: randoms
By: Nightfox to Access Denied on Sun Sep 08 2013 02:31 pm

Re: Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to Dreamer on Sun Sep 08 2013 09:32:59

When was the last update to EleBBS? I thought development had stopped on it quite a few years ago.

I believe so. I was originally going to set up my current BBS with EleBBS, so I've checked on it every so often and haven't seen an update in several years.

Nightfox

For Linux it was 2010. For Windows it was 2009. Elebbs has been dormant a long time now and is considered deadware.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada
the.millionaire@parkave.synchro.net

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Yeah, I may just stick with synchronet. It's all that java programing that makes me turn my back on it though. No offense but things can be customized just as easy with menu editors and what not. I think java is a good core for synchronet. But I do not believe it should be the only method of modding. That probably turns alot of people away from the bbs scene.. Other than that the software is great. It's tied well to other boards. Easy qwk network setups, ect.

If you are much more experienced with menu editing type softwares, you may want to give Mystic a shot. It holds a lot of the old menu editing ways, and is also currently developed. At the moment it's evolving into a full fledged all-in-one BBS package (including a mailer and tosser, QWK/QWKE networking, UTF-8/Unicode, and much more), all optional.. of course. If you wish to use any third party software with it, you can just disable whatever Mystic offers and use what you want.

You really shouldn't listen to others on their word, either. Grab the BBS packages you think you may have interest in, and give them a test run. You, and only you, will realize which one you like the best and want to put extra time and effort into in order to make it something unique. If you're someone who has interest in helping further development of any of the softwares, pick one that's still currently developed, and try to break it, while posting about any issues you may have. It's all up to you, as a sysop, what you want to use.

Regards,
Nick


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I believe so. I was originally going to set up my current BBS with EleBBS, so I've checked on it every so often and haven't seen an update in several years.

That was the one by Mike Ehlert, right? Odd thing is, he's still around and semi-active. He still updates Netfoss and a few other of his programs. I wonder why he gave up on the BBS software. *shrug*

Regards,
Nick


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From what I understand, you have to have a 32 bit version to run the old 16 bit doors. I have a 64 bit version on my MacBook pro, and I was feeling lazy today, so I decided to fire up thrdraw from the server, and I couldn't even do that, so it's either run a VM in a 64 bit version, or stick with 32 bit versions altogeather. I run xp pro on the bbs server, so as long as everything works, I don't worry about it. Al Lawrence of Sunrise Doors has some 32 bit doors that may run on windows 64 bit software, but I'm not sure. Hope this helped some.

Well said. To add to it a bit, here's some more situations that might be a decision maker as well:

If your computer has more than 4gb ram, you probably want to use a 64bit OS, and then run a VM that would take care of all your BBS stuff. If you just go with a 32bit OS for your entire system, only 4gb of your ram will show as being used.

Depending if you have a computer to dedicate to running a BBS, you might want to stick with one that's a little older, and has less then 4gb ram. Then just install a 32bit Windows OS on it.

If you're a Linux user, both 32bit and 64bit Linux distrobutions will work with native Linux BBS softwares, and will also work with door games -- since you have to use a DOS emulator (dosemu is the preferred one, and seems to work the best).

Regards,
Nick


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Re: Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Mon Sep 09 2013 07:10 am

I believe so. I was originally going to set up my current BBS with
EleBBS, so I've checked on it every so often and haven't seen an
update in several years.

That was the one by Mike Ehlert, right? Odd thing is, he's still around and semi-active. He still updates Netfoss and a few other of his programs. I wonder why he gave up on the BBS software. *shrug*

Don't quote me, but I think Mike had a love for RA and then for Elebbs because it was an RA clone, and he supported it, but I don't think he was the author. Just a supporter that may have been involved. Not sure how deep he was into it when it was still being developed.

Have a good One!
Mike


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Don't quote me, but I think Mike had a love for RA and then for Elebbs because it was an RA clone, and he supported it, but I don't think he
was the author. Just a supporter that may have been involved. Not sure
how deep he was into it when it was still being developed.

This is correct. EleBBS was written by someone named Maarten Bekers who I worked with on a few things a long time ago. He stopped working on EleBBS about 10 years ago now I think?

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* Origin: Sector 7 [Mystic BBS WHQ]

Re: Re: randoms
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Sun Sep 08 2013 09:48 pm

Re: Re: randoms
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Sun Sep 08 2013 19:54:25

For Linux it was 2010. For Windows it was 2009. Elebbs has been
dormant a long time now and is considered deadware.

Well 2009-2010 wasn't that long ago. Some companies/developers don't put out releases as regularly as Rob Swindell does for Synchronet, so are you sure it's dead?

Nightfox

Rob sometimes can take up to 5 years for a release. I would declare that Elebbs
is officially abandonware. No one hasn't even come near it in years.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada
the.millionaire@parkave.synchro.net

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Re: Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to Nightfox on Mon Sep 09 2013 07:10 am

I believe so. I was originally going to set up my current BBS with EleBBS, so I've checked on it every so often and haven't seen an
update in several years.

That was the one by Mike Ehlert, right? Odd thing is, he's still around and semi-active. He still updates Netfoss and a few other of his programs. I wonder why he gave up on the BBS software. *shrug*

Regards,
Nick

Maybe he lost his programming crew. He had a bunch of guys write with him. I hear Exodus made Renegade open source now and no one is hardly participating on
it.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada
the.millionaire@parkave.synchro.net

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Re: Re: randoms
By: g00r00 to First Officer on Mon Sep 09 2013 12:28 pm

Don't quote me, but I think Mike had a love for RA and then for Elebbs because it was an RA clone, and he supported it, but I don't think he was the author. Just a supporter that may have been involved. Not sure how deep he was into it when it was still being developed.

This is correct. EleBBS was written by someone named Maarten Bekers who I worked with on a few things a long time ago. He stopped working on EleBBS about 10 years ago now I think?

Hey Gooroo, nice to see you here man.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada
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Re: Re: randoms
By: The Millionaire to Access Denied on Mon Sep 09 2013 01:13 pm

I hear Exodus made Renegade open source now and no one is hardly participating on it.

That surprised me too.. Probably to little too late to mess with. Seemed like especially once it broke it's form for all the old utilities for it, it was doomed. Or so it seems.

Have a good One!
Mike


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That was the one by Mike Ehlert, right? Odd thing is, he's still
around and semi-active. He still updates Netfoss and a few other of
his programs. I wonder why he gave up on the BBS software. *shrug*

Don't quote me, but I think Mike had a love for RA and then for Elebbs because it was an RA clone, and he supported it, but I don't think he was the author. Just a supporter that may have been involved. Not sure how deep he was into it when it was still being developed.

Now that you mention it. I remember something along those lines as well. Then again, Mike does have the coding ability, and I do believe he updated it a bit for awhile.

Regards,
Nick


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Re: Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to First Officer on Mon Sep 09 2013 06:57 pm

That was the one by Mike Ehlert, right? Odd thing is, he's still
around and semi-active. He still updates Netfoss and a few other of
his programs. I wonder why he gave up on the BBS software. *shrug*

Don't quote me, but I think Mike had a love for RA and then for Elebbs because it was an RA clone, and he supported it, but I don't think he was the author. Just a supporter that may have been involved. Not sure how deep he was into it when it was still being developed.

Now that you mention it. I remember something along those lines as well. Then again, Mike does have the coding ability, and I do believe he updated it a bit for awhile.

Regards,
Nick

Maybe he feels there's nothing new to add perhaps?

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada
the.millionaire@parkave.synchro.net

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Rob sometimes can take up to 5 years for a release. I would declare that Elebbs is officially abandonware. No one hasn't even come near it in years.

Sync up to the source code and you get an update almost daily. What do we really need a "release" for?

Regards,
Nick


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Maybe he lost his programming crew. He had a bunch of guys write with him. I hear Exodus made Renegade open source now and no one is hardly participating on it.

In regards to Renegade, I was there requesting it to be ported to Win32 years ago. He definitely stuck to his guns and kept it DOS for the longest time. During that time, I lost interest, as I'm sure many others did. I used to run it back in the 90s, and wanted to see it progress.. and since then I've moved on.

Regards,
Nick


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Re: Re: randoms
By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Mon Sep 09 2013 08:04 pm

Re: Re: randoms
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Mon Sep 09 2013 13:10:51

Rob sometimes can take up to 5 years for a release.

Official releases, yes, but there are daily builds of Synchronet that you can download in the meantime which include the latest changes put in by Rob and Deuce. I don't think EleBBS has done that.

Also, if 5 years goes by between official Synchronet releases, then who's
to say EleBBS is dead? I don't think it has been 5 years since the last EleBBS release.

Nightfox

Well it depends on when they want to release it. But between 3.14a and 3.15b for Synchronet, that was a 5 year difference between releases.

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Re: Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to The Millionaire on Tue Sep 10 2013 12:00 am

Rob sometimes can take up to 5 years for a release. I would declare that Elebbs is officially abandonware. No one hasn't even come near it in years.

Sync up to the source code and you get an update almost daily. What do we really need a "release" for?

Regards,
Nick

A release contains the whole package in one shot. No need to daily update which
becomes a real hassle at times.

$ The Millionaire $
Park Avenue Place
Surrey, B.C., Canada
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Re: Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to The Millionaire on Tue Sep 10 2013 12:21 am

Maybe he lost his programming crew. He had a bunch of guys write with him. I hear Exodus made Renegade open source now and no one is hardly participating on it.

In regards to Renegade, I was there requesting it to be ported to Win32 years ago. He definitely stuck to his guns and kept it DOS for the longest time. During that time, I lost interest, as I'm sure many others did. I
used to run it back in the 90s, and wanted to see it progress.. and since then I've moved on.

Regards,
Nick

Nothing like a DOS BBS to seize the day, huh?

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Surrey, B.C., Canada
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Re: Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to The Millionaire on Tue Sep 10 2013 00:00:40

Sync up to the source code and you get an update almost daily. What do we really need a "release" for?

Well, arguably so that the installation and upgrade path will be less arduous. And so that we wouldn't have to keep telling people to run update.js. :D

echicken
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Re: randoms
By: Access Denied to DesotoFireflite on Mon Sep 09 2013 07:15 am

If your computer has more than 4gb ram, you probably want to use a 64bit OS, and then run a VM that would take care of all your BBS stuff. If you just go with a 32bit OS for your entire system, only 4gb of your ram will show as being used.

One nice option with a BBS VM - the ability to do snapshot backups.

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One nice option with a BBS VM - the ability to do snapshot backups.

Yes, that is a major plus. No matter that the OS, you can snapshot it.

In addition, I use Veeam to backup all my VMs. You can still use programs like
Symantec System Recovery (if the VM is running Windows), but snapshots and using backup programs like Veeam and vRanger do not care one bit about what OS you are running. They work with them all.

- Mark

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Re: Re: randoms
By: Mark Hofmann to Kurt Weiske on Sat Sep 14 2013 12:31 pm

One nice option with a BBS VM - the ability to do snapshot backups.

Yes, that is a major plus. No matter that the OS, you can snapshot it.

In addition, I use Veeam to backup all my VMs. You can still use programs like Symantec System Recovery (if the VM is running Windows), but snapshots and using backup programs like Veeam and vRanger do not care one bit about what OS you are running. They work with them all.

- Mark

Can't you do snapshots with VBox?

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Re: Re: randoms
By: The Millionaire to Mark Hofmann on Sat Sep 14 2013 18:52:41

Ahoy $$$$$$$,

Can't you do snapshots with VBox?

Yes, you can. They are also OS-independant.

Kind regards,

art@fatcatsbbsdotcom

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Can't you do snapshots with VBox?

Yes, VirtualBox is very similar to VMware workstation. They both can do snapshots.

I switched from VMware workstation to VMware ESXi 5.1 for all my virtual machines - including the BBS (which runs OS/2 eCS) and D'Bridge (Windows XP).

Using iSCSI for my virtual disks, too. The BBS and D'Bridge VMs have storage that is physically on another system, connected via iSCSI.

- Mark

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The Millionaire wrote to Nightfox <=-

For Linux it was 2010. For Windows it was 2009. Elebbs has been dormant
a long time now and is considered deadware.

Another RemoteAccess look-alike is of course MBSE - it comes with an integrated mailer (that I can't figure out how to configure) but is
a pretty nice system, I run it just for fun on Linux z/Arch (IBM mainframe emulator) and it works quite well.


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On 09-27-13, Sampsa said the following...

Another RemoteAccess look-alike is of course MBSE - it comes with an integrated mailer (that I can't figure out how to configure) but is
a pretty nice system, I run it just for fun on Linux z/Arch (IBM
mainframe emulator) and it worksquite well.

Once you play with it for a little while, it's not that bad. Granted, yes,
it does have a little bit of a learning curve, but all in all it's a pretty decent all in one system for Linux. Granted it seems like Mystic is headed
in that direction, too :)

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