Can anyone tell me haow to permantaly store a path statement in Linux. I can get it set, but once I reboot, I loose it. I've tried everything I can find on Google, but nothing is working. I'm a Linus Newby, so explain it so a 5 year old can understand it. Thanks. I want to add the directory so it applies to all users, even root.

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Can anyone tell me haow to permantaly store a path statement in Linux. I

can

get it set, but once I reboot, I loose it. I've tried everything I can

find

on Google, but nothing is working. I'm a Linus Newby, so explain it so a

5

year old can understand it. Thanks. I want to add the directory so it applies to all users, even root.

I hope my explanation is clear enough (let me know if it's not):

There are a couple of files in each user's home directory, called .bashrc
and .bash_profile (the leading '.' characters are part of their filename) - Those are read by the Bash shell on startup, and you can put variable assignments, etc. in there. I think the difference is that .bash_profile
is read before the command prompt opens, and .bashrc is read when you open
a command prompt (I don't remember exactly).

In either (or both) of those files, you can modify the path variable. The variable $PATH contains the existing path, and you can reference that in order to prepend or append directories to it, using a set command. For instance, the following would append /sbbs/exec to the path:
export PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec

Make sure to separate directories with a colon (:).

Using this method, you would have to edit the .bashrc and .bash_profile
files for the root user and each other user you want the path to apply to. There's probably a global path setting somewhere, but I'm not sure where
that is, and it might depend on the Linux distribution you're using.

Nightfox

Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jun 15 2015 12:50 pm

export PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec

Thank You. I have been using just "PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec" without the export, and as soon as I reboot the system, I loose it. Am I to assume, that by putting "export" in front of this, it will set it permantly?, or do I have to actually go in and use a text editor and modify both of the files you mentioned. Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm really trying to learn the OS, so I understand it as well as I do windows. Thanks





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Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Tue Jun 16 2015 04:18:19

export PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec

Thank You. I have been using just "PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec" without the export, and as soon as I reboot the system, I loose it. Am I to assume, that by putting "export" in front of this, it will set it permantly?, or do I have to actually go in and use a text editor and modify both of the files you mentioned. Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm really trying to learn the OS, so I understand it as well as I do windows. Thanks

You do have to modify those files for it to be permanent. If you just do that in a terminal window, it only applies to that session and would be lost when you exit the terminal or restart the system.

I had seen 'export' used before but I guess I didn't know exactly what it did. I did a quick search online and found this page: http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/learning-linux-commands-export
It sounds like you could set an environment variable wihout export, but export makes it apply to child processes (so if you start another instance of the shell within the shell, the variable would apply there too). I imagine the export is probably important for running shell scripts, since a shell script runs in another instance of the shell.

Nightfox

Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jun 16 2015 07:42 am

You do have to modify those files for it to be permanent. If you just do that in a terminal window, it only applies to that session and would be lost when you exit the terminal or restart the system.

I had seen 'export' used before but I guess I didn't know exactly what it did. I did a quick search online and found this page: http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/learning-linux-commands-export

Maybe it's just me. I went in and tried to edit the files, and now I can't save them. It's so frustrating, I feel like I'm in first grade all over again. I went into the vim editor in terminal, typed i to edit the file, and I was able to type my changes, but then when I typed :e to exit and save, it won't ever save. I tried using other editors, and keep getting permission errors. Honestly, I'm trying to do this on my own with the help of google, and the docs from opensuse, but I'm just over my head. It shouldn't be that hard to perm set the path. I know I'm going to have that ahha moment when it all clicks, and I hope it's soon. LOL.. Thanks for all your help, you know I appreciate it.


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Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Tue Jun 16 2015 15:38:13

You do have to modify those files for it to be permanent. If you
just do that in a terminal window, it only applies to that session
and would be lost when you exit the terminal or restart the system.

I had seen 'export' used before but I guess I didn't know exactly
what it did. I did a quick search online and found this page:
http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/learning-linux-commands-export

Maybe it's just me. I went in and tried to edit the files, and now I can't save them. It's so frustrating, I feel like I'm in first grade all over again. I went into the vim editor in terminal, typed i to edit the file, and I was able to type my changes, but then when I typed :e to exit and save, it won't ever save. I tried using other editors, and keep getting

What's different in how you're editing the files this time where it won't let you save them? Must be something different in what you're doing..

Also, I tend to use different commands with vim. I guess there are multiple ways to do anything in Linux. :P When I edit a file, I use the command "vim <filename>" on the command-line (where <filename> is the name of the file to edit). I use i to edit the file. And to exit and save, I use ZZ (two capital Zs). You can also use the command :wq to write & quit.

Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't forget that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged in as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in 'sudo vim .bashrc').

Nightfox

Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jun 16 2015 08:14 pm

Also, I tend to use different commands with vim. I guess there are multiple ways to do anything in Linux. :P When I edit a file, I use the command "vim <filename>" on the command-line (where <filename> is the name of the file to edit). I use i to edit the file. And to exit and save, I use ZZ (two capital Zs). You can also use the command :wq to write & quit.

OK, I'll try that. I was using the command I got off Goggle.

Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't forget that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged in as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in 'sudo vim .bashrc').

That part I understood. I have been logging into root, with a password, but I'll try the sudo command and see if that does better. I use sudo with my mac and have no problems. Thanks, I'll let you know how it goes.


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Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jun 16 2015 08:14 pm

Also, I tend to use different commands with vim. I guess there are multiple ways to do anything in Linux. :P When I edit a file, I use the command "vim <filename>" on the command-line (where <filename> is the name of the file to edit). I use i to edit the file. And to exit and save, I use ZZ (two capital Zs). You can also use the command :wq to write & quit.

":wq" worked like a charm, Thanks

Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't forget that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged in as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in 'sudo vim .bashrc').

It's all working now, thank you so much. When editing .bashrc, there was a statement in the file saying not to edit it as it would be changed during updates, so I ended up creating a /etc/profile.local file, and using the "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/g++" to acheve the global path and perserve it. works like a charm. You have no idea how much you have helped, Thanks


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Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't

forget

that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged

in

as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in

'sudo

vim .bashrc').

It's all working now, thank you so much. When editing .bashrc, there was

a

statement in the file saying not to edit it as it would be changed

during

updates, so I ended up creating a /etc/profile.local file, and using the "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/g++" to acheve the global path and perserve

it.

works like a charm. You have no idea how much you have helped, Thanks

Nice that that worked. Odd that a user's .bashrc would have a comment
saying not to edit it due to updates though - .bashrc in the user's
directory is meant for the user to edit and make changes to according to their needs.. It doesn't seem right that there would be restrictions for a user not to edit their .bashrc file. Good that you found a solution
though. It seems like there are several ways to do everything in Linux.

Nightfox

Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Wed Jun 17 2015 01:33 pm

their needs.. It doesn't seem right that there would be restrictions for a user not to edit their .bashrc file. Good that you found a solution though. It seems like there are several ways to do everything in Linux.

I'm finding opensuse is different in a lot of ways. LOL There are a lot of things I don't like about it, but there is more that I do like. It seems more stable on this old pent III that I'm learning linux on, than anything else I have tried. Again, thanks.

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their needs.. It doesn't seem right that there would be

restrictions

for a user not to edit their .bashrc file. Good that you found a solution though. It seems like there are several ways to do everything in Linux.

I'm finding opensuse is different in a lot of ways. LOL There are a lot

of

things I don't like about it, but there is more that I do like. It seems more stable on this old pent III that I'm learning linux on, than

anything

else I have tried. Again, thanks.

OpenSuse was always one of my favorite Linux distributions. I don't
remember there being restrictions with .bashrc in OpenSuse. I'm using
Linux Mint (Cinnamon edition) on my BBS machine right now though (although
my BBS itself is running in Windows XP in a virtual machine - I recently migrated it over from running in Windows on the actual hardware). Linux
Mint seems to run fairly well, and I like the Cinnamon GUI environment
better than the Unity interface currently used by default in Ubuntu and others. Cinnamon is available for other Linux distributions too, which is nice.

Nightfox

Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Wed Jun 17 2015 04:42 pm

OpenSuse was always one of my favorite Linux distributions. I don't remember there being restrictions with .bashrc in OpenSuse. I'm using Linux Mint (Cinnamon edition) on my BBS machine right now though (although
my BBS itself is running in Windows XP in a virtual machine - I recently

Yeah, I like opensuse myself. I tried mint, and I really liked Cinnamon, but unfortunatly with the pent III, it just bogged the system down so much, it was just unusable. When I get comfortable with linux, deff I will switch to the nicer GUI's. I also liked LXLI, as it is super fast with older machines, and it has a nice interface, but all in all, I just decided to stay with OpenSuse, as it found most of my older hardware, and runs pretty stable on this old IBM server and hardware raid.

I deff like Linux, and getting more comfortable with it everyday. I'm learning by my mistakes, and believe me, I make loads of them LOL, I think i'm gonna change my name to "crash"....

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Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Thu Jun 18 2015 06:36:55

Yeah, I like opensuse myself. I tried mint, and I really liked Cinnamon, but unfortunatly with the pent III, it just bogged the system down so much, it was just unusable.

Funny, I always used to think of Linux as more lightweight than Windows (yet more powerful at the same time). I suppose there are lightweight distributions of Linux out there, and that's the beauty of it - it can be molded into something rather than being a one-size-fits-all solution.

Nightfox

Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Tue Jun 16 2015 15:38:13

Maybe it's just me. I went in and tried to edit the files, and now I can't s them. It's so frustrating, I feel like I'm in first grade all over again. I went into the vim editor in terminal, typed i to edit the file, and I was ab to type my changes, but then when I typed :e to exit and save, it won't ever save. I tried using other editors, and keep getting permission errors. Honestly, I'm trying to do this on my own with the help of google, and the d from opensuse, but I'm just over my head. It shouldn't be that hard to perm the path. I know I'm going to have that ahha moment when it all clicks, and hope it's soon. LOL.. Thanks for all your help, you know I appreciate it.

Often when saving stuff you have to use su. You mentioned permissions, so that is likely the issue. For example:
su vi /etc/hosts
to edit the hosts file and add IPs that are used a lot. It's that root owns the files often times like the old .rc files (startup files).

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Re: Path
By: bcw142 to DesotoFireflite on Thu Jul 30 2015 06:01 pm

Often when saving stuff you have to use su. You mentioned permissions, so that is likely the issue. For example:

Thanks, I'm gradually geting the hang of it. it's fun, but very different.

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Can anyone tell me haow to permantaly store a path statement in Linux. I can get it set, but once I reboot, I loose it. I've tried everything I can find on Google, but nothing is working. I'm a Linus Newby, so explain it so a 5 year old can understand it. Thanks. I want to add the directory so it applies to all users, even root.

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Can anyone tell me haow to permantaly store a path statement in Linux. I

can

get it set, but once I reboot, I loose it. I've tried everything I can

find

on Google, but nothing is working. I'm a Linus Newby, so explain it so a

5

year old can understand it. Thanks. I want to add the directory so it applies to all users, even root.

I hope my explanation is clear enough (let me know if it's not):

There are a couple of files in each user's home directory, called .bashrc
and .bash_profile (the leading '.' characters are part of their filename) - Those are read by the Bash shell on startup, and you can put variable assignments, etc. in there. I think the difference is that .bash_profile
is read before the command prompt opens, and .bashrc is read when you open
a command prompt (I don't remember exactly).

In either (or both) of those files, you can modify the path variable. The variable $PATH contains the existing path, and you can reference that in order to prepend or append directories to it, using a set command. For instance, the following would append /sbbs/exec to the path:
export PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec

Make sure to separate directories with a colon (:).

Using this method, you would have to edit the .bashrc and .bash_profile
files for the root user and each other user you want the path to apply to. There's probably a global path setting somewhere, but I'm not sure where
that is, and it might depend on the Linux distribution you're using.

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Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Mon Jun 15 2015 12:50 pm

export PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec

Thank You. I have been using just "PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec" without the export, and as soon as I reboot the system, I loose it. Am I to assume, that by putting "export" in front of this, it will set it permantly?, or do I have to actually go in and use a text editor and modify both of the files you mentioned. Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm really trying to learn the OS, so I understand it as well as I do windows. Thanks





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Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Tue Jun 16 2015 04:18:19

export PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec

Thank You. I have been using just "PATH=$PATH:/sbbs/exec" without the export, and as soon as I reboot the system, I loose it. Am I to assume, that by putting "export" in front of this, it will set it permantly?, or do I have to actually go in and use a text editor and modify both of the files you mentioned. Sorry for the stupid questions, but I'm really trying to learn the OS, so I understand it as well as I do windows. Thanks

You do have to modify those files for it to be permanent. If you just do that in a terminal window, it only applies to that session and would be lost when you exit the terminal or restart the system.

I had seen 'export' used before but I guess I didn't know exactly what it did. I did a quick search online and found this page: http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/learning-linux-commands-export
It sounds like you could set an environment variable wihout export, but export makes it apply to child processes (so if you start another instance of the shell within the shell, the variable would apply there too). I imagine the export is probably important for running shell scripts, since a shell script runs in another instance of the shell.

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Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jun 16 2015 07:42 am

You do have to modify those files for it to be permanent. If you just do that in a terminal window, it only applies to that session and would be lost when you exit the terminal or restart the system.

I had seen 'export' used before but I guess I didn't know exactly what it did. I did a quick search online and found this page: http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/learning-linux-commands-export

Maybe it's just me. I went in and tried to edit the files, and now I can't save them. It's so frustrating, I feel like I'm in first grade all over again. I went into the vim editor in terminal, typed i to edit the file, and I was able to type my changes, but then when I typed :e to exit and save, it won't ever save. I tried using other editors, and keep getting permission errors. Honestly, I'm trying to do this on my own with the help of google, and the docs from opensuse, but I'm just over my head. It shouldn't be that hard to perm set the path. I know I'm going to have that ahha moment when it all clicks, and I hope it's soon. LOL.. Thanks for all your help, you know I appreciate it.


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Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Tue Jun 16 2015 15:38:13

You do have to modify those files for it to be permanent. If you
just do that in a terminal window, it only applies to that session
and would be lost when you exit the terminal or restart the system.

I had seen 'export' used before but I guess I didn't know exactly
what it did. I did a quick search online and found this page:
http://how-to.linuxcareer.com/learning-linux-commands-export

Maybe it's just me. I went in and tried to edit the files, and now I can't save them. It's so frustrating, I feel like I'm in first grade all over again. I went into the vim editor in terminal, typed i to edit the file, and I was able to type my changes, but then when I typed :e to exit and save, it won't ever save. I tried using other editors, and keep getting

What's different in how you're editing the files this time where it won't let you save them? Must be something different in what you're doing..

Also, I tend to use different commands with vim. I guess there are multiple ways to do anything in Linux. :P When I edit a file, I use the command "vim <filename>" on the command-line (where <filename> is the name of the file to edit). I use i to edit the file. And to exit and save, I use ZZ (two capital Zs). You can also use the command :wq to write & quit.

Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't forget that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged in as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in 'sudo vim .bashrc').

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Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jun 16 2015 08:14 pm

Also, I tend to use different commands with vim. I guess there are multiple ways to do anything in Linux. :P When I edit a file, I use the command "vim <filename>" on the command-line (where <filename> is the name of the file to edit). I use i to edit the file. And to exit and save, I use ZZ (two capital Zs). You can also use the command :wq to write & quit.

OK, I'll try that. I was using the command I got off Goggle.

Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't forget that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged in as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in 'sudo vim .bashrc').

That part I understood. I have been logging into root, with a password, but I'll try the sudo command and see if that does better. I use sudo with my mac and have no problems. Thanks, I'll let you know how it goes.


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Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Tue Jun 16 2015 08:14 pm

Also, I tend to use different commands with vim. I guess there are multiple ways to do anything in Linux. :P When I edit a file, I use the command "vim <filename>" on the command-line (where <filename> is the name of the file to edit). I use i to edit the file. And to exit and save, I use ZZ (two capital Zs). You can also use the command :wq to write & quit.

":wq" worked like a charm, Thanks

Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't forget that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged in as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in 'sudo vim .bashrc').

It's all working now, thank you so much. When editing .bashrc, there was a statement in the file saying not to edit it as it would be changed during updates, so I ended up creating a /etc/profile.local file, and using the "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/g++" to acheve the global path and perserve it. works like a charm. You have no idea how much you have helped, Thanks


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Also, when editing root's .bashrc & .bash_profile files, don't

forget

that you need to edit them as root. You need to either be logged

in

as the root user or use 'sudo' before your editor command (as in

'sudo

vim .bashrc').

It's all working now, thank you so much. When editing .bashrc, there was

a

statement in the file saying not to edit it as it would be changed

during

updates, so I ended up creating a /etc/profile.local file, and using the "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin/g++" to acheve the global path and perserve

it.

works like a charm. You have no idea how much you have helped, Thanks

Nice that that worked. Odd that a user's .bashrc would have a comment
saying not to edit it due to updates though - .bashrc in the user's
directory is meant for the user to edit and make changes to according to their needs.. It doesn't seem right that there would be restrictions for a user not to edit their .bashrc file. Good that you found a solution
though. It seems like there are several ways to do everything in Linux.

Nightfox

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Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Wed Jun 17 2015 01:33 pm

their needs.. It doesn't seem right that there would be restrictions for a user not to edit their .bashrc file. Good that you found a solution though. It seems like there are several ways to do everything in Linux.

I'm finding opensuse is different in a lot of ways. LOL There are a lot of things I don't like about it, but there is more that I do like. It seems more stable on this old pent III that I'm learning linux on, than anything else I have tried. Again, thanks.

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their needs.. It doesn't seem right that there would be

restrictions

for a user not to edit their .bashrc file. Good that you found a solution though. It seems like there are several ways to do everything in Linux.

I'm finding opensuse is different in a lot of ways. LOL There are a lot

of

things I don't like about it, but there is more that I do like. It seems more stable on this old pent III that I'm learning linux on, than

anything

else I have tried. Again, thanks.

OpenSuse was always one of my favorite Linux distributions. I don't
remember there being restrictions with .bashrc in OpenSuse. I'm using
Linux Mint (Cinnamon edition) on my BBS machine right now though (although
my BBS itself is running in Windows XP in a virtual machine - I recently migrated it over from running in Windows on the actual hardware). Linux
Mint seems to run fairly well, and I like the Cinnamon GUI environment
better than the Unity interface currently used by default in Ubuntu and others. Cinnamon is available for other Linux distributions too, which is nice.

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Re: Path
By: Nightfox to DesotoFireflite on Wed Jun 17 2015 04:42 pm

OpenSuse was always one of my favorite Linux distributions. I don't remember there being restrictions with .bashrc in OpenSuse. I'm using Linux Mint (Cinnamon edition) on my BBS machine right now though (although
my BBS itself is running in Windows XP in a virtual machine - I recently

Yeah, I like opensuse myself. I tried mint, and I really liked Cinnamon, but unfortunatly with the pent III, it just bogged the system down so much, it was just unusable. When I get comfortable with linux, deff I will switch to the nicer GUI's. I also liked LXLI, as it is super fast with older machines, and it has a nice interface, but all in all, I just decided to stay with OpenSuse, as it found most of my older hardware, and runs pretty stable on this old IBM server and hardware raid.

I deff like Linux, and getting more comfortable with it everyday. I'm learning by my mistakes, and believe me, I make loads of them LOL, I think i'm gonna change my name to "crash"....

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Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Thu Jun 18 2015 06:36:55

Yeah, I like opensuse myself. I tried mint, and I really liked Cinnamon, but unfortunatly with the pent III, it just bogged the system down so much, it was just unusable.

Funny, I always used to think of Linux as more lightweight than Windows (yet more powerful at the same time). I suppose there are lightweight distributions of Linux out there, and that's the beauty of it - it can be molded into something rather than being a one-size-fits-all solution.

Nightfox

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Re: Path
By: DesotoFireflite to Nightfox on Tue Jun 16 2015 15:38:13

Maybe it's just me. I went in and tried to edit the files, and now I can't s them. It's so frustrating, I feel like I'm in first grade all over again. I went into the vim editor in terminal, typed i to edit the file, and I was ab to type my changes, but then when I typed :e to exit and save, it won't ever save. I tried using other editors, and keep getting permission errors. Honestly, I'm trying to do this on my own with the help of google, and the d from opensuse, but I'm just over my head. It shouldn't be that hard to perm the path. I know I'm going to have that ahha moment when it all clicks, and hope it's soon. LOL.. Thanks for all your help, you know I appreciate it.

Often when saving stuff you have to use su. You mentioned permissions, so that is likely the issue. For example:
su vi /etc/hosts
to edit the hosts file and add IPs that are used a lot. It's that root owns the files often times like the old .rc files (startup files).

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Re: Path
By: bcw142 to DesotoFireflite on Thu Jul 30 2015 06:01 pm

Often when saving stuff you have to use su. You mentioned permissions, so that is likely the issue. For example:

Thanks, I'm gradually geting the hang of it. it's fun, but very different.

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