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    From Tiny@46:1/700 to All on Sat Dec 13 16:46:00 2025
    Hi All,

    Well my love for this stuff ended again. LOL I like arch, but I
    don't like it enough to keep running it. Being on the bleeding edge
    is not for me. I'm gonna go find a nice LTS distro that I won't have
    to fuck with for 5-8 years.

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  • From Accession@46:1/700 to Tiny on Sat Dec 13 19:42:11 2025
    Hey Tiny!

    On Sat, Dec 13 2025 16:46:00 -0600, you wrote:

    Well my love for this stuff ended again. LOL I like arch, but I
    don't like it enough to keep running it. Being on the bleeding edge
    is not for me. I'm gonna go find a nice LTS distro that I won't
    have to fuck with for 5-8 years.

    Eh well, to each their own. When you find an LTS distro that you still have to install what you want, when you want it.. you'll come to realize it's not much different except for using old and outdated packages that don't have the added features and security the newer stuff does.

    You can install a recent Arch ISO and never update it, as in, it's not a requirement that you update it daily/weekly. I've left mine alone for months without touching it, and so long as you don't use "pacman -Syu" you keep the same packages that were there to begin with (ie. you don't update/sync the repos).

    Either way, hope you can find something you enjoy, as that's what it's all about!

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tiny@46:1/700 to Accession on Sun Dec 14 05:16:17 2025
    Hi Accession,
    On <Sun, 13 Dec 25>, you wrote me:

    You can install a recent Arch ISO and never update it, as in, it's not
    a requirement that you update it daily/weekly. I've left mine alone
    for months without touching it, and so long as you don't use "pacman
    -Syu" you keep the same packages that were there to begin with (ie.
    you don't update/sync the repos).

    I restored a 2 day old image just to get jellyfin to display videos
    again. So yeah, I guess the trick is to not ever update and maybe
    once a year just do a re-install to get security updates.

    Everything I read online suggests not waiting on updates...But for some
    reason every update borks ffmpeg and I'll be damned if re-installing it
    helps. lol

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  • From Accession@46:1/700 to Tiny on Sun Dec 14 08:53:34 2025
    Hey Tiny!

    On Sun, Dec 14 2025 05:16:17 -0600, you wrote:

    I restored a 2 day old image just to get jellyfin to display videos
    again. So yeah, I guess the trick is to not ever update and maybe
    once a year just do a re-install to get security updates.

    I'm guessing that's not the "trick", as there may be some other issues at hand.

    Everything I read online suggests not waiting on updates...But for>
    some reason every update borks ffmpeg and I'll be damned if re-
    installing it helps. lol

    While I have no skin in this game, and don't mess around with that kind of stuff at the moment, are you using the regular ffmpeg package? I see that there's a jellyfin-ffmpeg (and even a jellyfin-ffmpeg-git) package out there that may be a decent alternative? Again, I don't know and didn't look very far into it. But, if ffmpeg updates, and it relies on other packages for jellyfin that /weren't/ updated to reflect ffmpeg's update (or vise versa - jellyfin updates and relies on ffmpeg and other packages that weren't updated yet), you can definitely run into issues. That shouldn't normally be the case, though. I'd think jellyfin would wait for new packages it relies on, and then update it's own package accordingly.

    There does seem to be issues out there, so it's definitely not just you. I did a quick DDG search for "archlinux updating ffmpeg breaks jellyfin" and it came up with quite a few results. Maybe there's something there that is similar to what you're experiencing.

    Either way, once you have it working, there's nothing requiring you to update anything, unless there's something specific you want or need (security update or new features, etc). You can use an LTS version of just about anything as well, and if there's an update to ffmpeg during an update, you could run in to the same issue(s) there, too. If you're just trying to set things up to work, and leave it alone, there's no need to constantly update any distro, Arch or anything else.

    There's also the option of separating your desktop environment from your jellyfin setup, as in installing jellyfin and it's prerequisites in it's own VM or container while leaving it alone once it's working. Then having your desktop environment in it's own instance where you can update and break things all you want. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tiny@46:1/700 to Accession on Mon Dec 15 05:21:37 2025
    Hi Accession,
    On <Mon, 14 Dec 25>, you wrote me:

    just trying to set things up to work, and leave it alone, there's no
    need to constantly update any distro, Arch or anything else.

    I understand that.

    There's also the option of separating your desktop environment from
    your jellyfin setup, as in installing jellyfin and it's prerequisites
    in it's own VM or container while leaving it alone once it's working.
    Then having your desktop environment in it's own instance where you
    can update and break things all you want. ;)

    I thought I did that by using docker for jellyfin. I guess(?) docker
    uses the system libraries? I configured my jellyfin container so I
    could move one directory and things would work. Does docker use
    the system libraries or am I looking in the wrong place for what went
    wrong?

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