• Re: how to find time to do all the

    From Robert Wolfe@46:1/152 to Mercyful Fate on Sun Jul 30 21:35:00 2017
    * In a message originally to Darkwing, Mercyful Fate said:

    If you get bored and ripped out all the com port stuff to read/write
    STDIO,
    you could get iniquity going in linux even.. :) But no matter what thats
    a
    lot of work.. hehe

    If that were the case, you could port it to just about any OS :)

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  • From Darkwing@46:1/204 to jack phlash on Tue Aug 1 00:11:17 2017
    I also put out my own modifications after 2.0, the last one being 2.20A.
    I completely rewrote the screen pausing routines in that version, and if my old man brain recalls correctly, there were some huge issues with it that made it act totally wacky in some circumstances. I lost the latest code shortly after releasing it, but then I went back many years later
    and re-wrote some of that stuff, including the screen pausing. I never released it, but if you're using 2.20A I could ship you this build to
    try to see if it fixes your issues.

    so, i was looking through email on my old ~2004 bbs backup and found an emial from myself telling someone else that my version was absolutely not compatible with the JP version, so it looks like I'm running a 2.0 install
    with just my own mods to it.

    i'm pretty sure i can rip out the pause/continue routines completely and
    be OK with it, but what's puzzling me the most is why iniquity won't run
    under any windows install past XP. i have a 32bit Win7 install and it will boot up, take calls, let me login, whatever, but if you leave it sitting at a menu for any (and I mean *ANY*) amount of time, it absolutely will lock up. i'm guessing this is something to do with the idle time detection. argh,
    hours of debugging ahead... sadly i'm just going to put it up in a seriously locked down XP virtual machine until i can figure it out hehe. at this point
    i should just be happy it runs at all i suppose =)

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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Darkwing on Wed Aug 2 10:09:48 2017
    on 08/01/17, Darkwing said...

    so, i was looking through email on my old ~2004 bbs backup and found an emial from myself telling someone else that my version was absolutely not compatible with the JP version, so it looks like I'm running a 2.0 install with just my own mods to it.

    i'm pretty sure i can rip out the pause/continue routines completely and be OK with it

    That's is the crux of why I rewrote them originally. In short, the original Iniquity screen pausing routines were half-baked. They would only account
    for screen pausing in certain places, and only under certain circumstances. Pausing external display files wasn't supported at all, which meant hard
    coding pause prompts for ANSI bulletins, for example. The changes I made added counting lines to the pause buffer for everything, including display files, more or less the same way Mystic handles it.

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  • From Darkwing@46:1/204 to jack phlash on Mon Aug 7 03:12:37 2017
    That's is the crux of why I rewrote them originally. In short, the original Iniquity screen pausing routines were half-baked. They would
    only account for screen pausing in certain places, and only under
    certain circumstances. Pausing external display files wasn't supported
    at all, which meant hard coding pause prompts for ANSI bulletins, for example. The changes I made added counting lines to the pause buffer for everything, including display files, more or less the same way Mystic handles it.

    It's so weird how it works in mTel but not SyncTerm... I think SyncTerm
    is a more popular client (and my client of choice on OSX too), so I *will*
    find a way to make it work =)

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  • From h7@46:2/101 to jack phlash on Tue Oct 31 07:24:01 2017
    On the flip side, I also consider what else those people have got going
    on in their lives. Some of my friends with that seemingly have the most time to kill have terrible, soul draining jobs or no jobs or money at
    all, live in their parent's basements or otherwise shitty conditions, or are otherwise making some sort of (to me, subjectively negative)
    tradeoffs for that time.

    yeah. after 8-10 hrs at the office tinkering with infosec stuff, making presentations and having skype calls its just .. way too much to sit in front of a computer again and clicketiclick through stuff.

    seems that i was a bit pessimistic about things, now i do seem to have time
    for this stuff again. it might've just been that i was consumed by stress and everything else at that time.

    You know, I find it slightly depressing that I'm finally getting old enough to start dreaming about all of the free time I'll hopefully have when I retire. ;)

    whats the retirement age over there? here it's steadily rising and now its
    67. i doubt that with my habits i'll even make it to 67.

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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to h7 on Tue Oct 31 10:28:39 2017
    on 10/31/17, h7 said...

    yeah. after 8-10 hrs at the office tinkering with infosec stuff, making presentations and having skype calls its just .. way too much to sit in front of a computer again and clicketiclick through stuff.

    seems that i was a bit pessimistic about things, now i do seem to have time for this stuff again. it might've just been that i was consumed by stress and everything else at that time.

    It can be kind of difficult to judge from the inside. It's been something
    I've always struggled with. I've been in a burn out phase for a while at my current job, but I've got plans to make some radical changes in career and location. It's just a matter of suffering through it while I work to bring everything to fruition at this point.

    whats the retirement age over there? here it's steadily rising and now
    its 67. i doubt that with my habits i'll even make it to 67.

    Traditionally it's 65 but it's always going up. I think it's more like 67
    here too, actually.

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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to jack phlash on Sun Nov 5 06:03:44 2017
    Hello jack,

    On Tue Oct 31 2017 10:28:38, jack phlash wrote to h7:

    whats the retirement age over there? here it's steadily rising
    and now its 67. i doubt that with my habits i'll even make it to
    67.

    Traditionally it's 65 but it's always going up. I think it's more like
    67 here too, actually.

    In my line of work I believe it's still 63 with no penalties. However, you can retire at 55 if you have enough hours in the trade, but you'll take like a 2% hit per year (from 63, so maximum pentalty would be 16%) on your pension. Annuity and whatever else is not affected.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to Accession on Sun Nov 5 16:41:06 2017
    Quoting Accession to jack phlash <=-

    In my line of work I believe it's still 63 with no penalties. However,
    you can retire at 55 if you have enough hours in the trade, but you'll take like a 2% hit per year (from 63, so maximum pentalty would be
    16%) on your pension. Annuity and whatever else is not affected.

    I fall into the age 67 here. (Missed 65 by like 4 months) Of course my
    problem is having been self employeed most of my life I don't have a whole
    lot paid into the pension fund. Instead I chose to save myself and while
    I complain a lot I invested everything I had, everything my wife had, and
    burried myself in more debt then any 2 people should have. The point? In
    only 2.5 years all loans are paid off, investments will start paying and I
    am back on track. ;) Just really hope I make it the 2.5 years. LOL

    Shawn

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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Tiny on Sun Nov 5 16:52:50 2017
    Hello Tiny,

    On Sun Nov 05 2017 17:41:06, Tiny wrote to Accession:

    I fall into the age 67 here. (Missed 65 by like 4 months) Of
    course my problem is having been self employeed most of my life I
    don't have a whole lot paid into the pension fund. Instead I chose to save myself and while I complain a lot I invested everything I had, everything my wife had, and burried myself in more debt then any 2
    people should have. The point? In only 2.5 years all loans are paid
    off, investments will start paying and I am back on track. ;) Just really hope I make it the 2.5 years. LOL

    I'm sure you will. 2.5 years goes by pretty damn quick these days. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From ispyhumanfly@46:1/700 to h7 on Mon Nov 6 01:12:28 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: h7 to jack phlash on Tue Oct 31 2017 07:24 am

    seems that i was a bit pessimistic about things, now i do seem to have time for this stuff again. it might've just been that i was consumed by stress and everything else at that time.

    I can understand that one. Once my career in software engineering took off fullsteam I rapidly took a step back from many things I used to enjoy. With exception to working on 16c, I was a ghost.

    I'm gladly, though it has been slow moving, I've been able to re-center a few things in my life, allowing me some flexibility within my own head to indulge in the scene, among other missing aspects again.
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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to Accession on Mon Nov 6 09:44:26 2017
    Quoting Accession to Tiny <=-

    I'm sure you will. 2.5 years goes by pretty damn quick these days. ;)

    The last 2.5 years have been longer then the last 15 years.

    Shawn

    ... Counting time is not so important as making time count.
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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Tiny on Mon Nov 6 17:34:30 2017
    Hello Tiny,

    On Mon Nov 06 2017 09:44:26, Tiny wrote to Accession:

    I'm sure you will. 2.5 years goes by pretty damn quick these
    days. ;)

    The last 2.5 years have been longer then the last 15 years.

    Just keep the beer cold and you'll make it through. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tiny@46:1/126 to Accession on Mon Nov 6 19:01:34 2017

    Hello Accession!

    06 Nov 17 17:34, you wrote to me:

    Just keep the beer cold and you'll make it through. ;)

    Ohhhh yeah. Well now I'm switching to gin because it's getting
    cold and I have a strange obsession with gin and club soda and
    martini's. (I know, gin is yucky etc etc)

    Shawn


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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Tiny on Mon Nov 6 20:57:28 2017
    Hello Tiny,

    On Mon Nov 06 2017 19:01:34, Tiny wrote to Accession:

    Just keep the beer cold and you'll make it through. ;)

    Ohhhh yeah. Well now I'm switching to gin because it's getting
    cold and I have a strange obsession with gin and club soda and
    martini's. (I know, gin is yucky etc etc)

    As long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Accession on Tue Nov 7 17:02:14 2017
    on 11/05/17, Accession said...

    Traditionally it's 65 but it's always going up. I think it's more lik 67 here too, actually.

    In my line of work I believe it's still 63 with no penalties. However,
    you can retire at 55 if you have enough hours in the trade, but you'll take like a 2% hit per year (from 63, so maximum pentalty would be 16%)
    on your pension. Annuity and whatever else is not affected.

    Hey now, most people in this country can't be part of unions. A lot of time
    and money goes into keeping it that way too. I work for government nowadays,
    so it's a little more complicated for me too, but I was talking about
    national averages and Social Security and Medicare in particular.

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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to jack phlash on Tue Nov 7 17:17:14 2017
    Hello jack,

    On Tue Nov 07 2017 17:02:14, jack phlash wrote to Accession:

    Hey now, most people in this country can't be part of unions. A lot of time and money goes into keeping it that way too. I work for
    government nowadays, so it's a little more complicated for me too, but
    I was talking about national averages and Social Security and Medicare
    in particular.

    I wasn't bragging whatsoever, nor do I feel the need to promote or support unions. Sure I work for one, and the benefits are great.. but there are downsides to it as well. Working next to a guy that does half the work but makes the same amount of money as you is a big one. lol

    I was just throwing my situation out there as others were. As far as national averages and whatnot, you'd probably get a better idea via google, unfortunately. Most people here are just going to tell you what their specific situation is. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Accession on Wed Nov 8 11:29:52 2017
    on 11/07/17, Accession said...

    I wasn't bragging whatsoever, nor do I feel the need to promote or
    support unions. Sure I work for one, and the benefits are great.. but there are downsides to it as well. Working next to a guy that does half the work but makes the same amount of money as you is a big one. lol

    Oh, I wasn't implying that you were bragging, not at all, just that your situation isn't typical for a lot of people and he was asking about averages. Mine isn't either. Like I said, I work for government and we actually have a full, old school retirement plan. A lot of people around here cash in
    overtime and sick days and retire extremely early, especially if they'd been here since they were young. One person I worked with retired in her early
    50s, for instance. They even had a rule until real recently that whatever insurance you had when you retired you kept. Can you imagine having a 100%
    free 80/20 PPO as a senior citizen? :)

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  • From Nightfox to Accession on Wed Nov 8 12:40:26 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: Accession to jack phlash on Tue Nov 07 2017 05:17 pm

    I wasn't bragging whatsoever, nor do I feel the need to promote or support unions. Sure I work for one, and the benefits are great.. but there are downsides to it as well. Working next to a guy that does half the work but makes the same amount of money as you is a big one. lol

    I think unions were good-intentioned when they started out, and it's too bad unions have the problems they do these days. I've heard of problems like corruption and union fees that are too high, and as you've said, if someone else does half the work but makes the same amount of money. For the last issue, I suppose sometimes it can be difficult to put a value on a type of work. One example I can think of is that athletes & sports players make a lot more money than teachers, which seems seems backwards to me. Not to say that athletes don't work hard, but I'd think teachers would be compensated better due to the type of work they do. Military work is similar - People who join the military do dangerous jobs and risk their lives, but I've heard the get very low pay (though I've heard they get other benefits too, such as good health insurance, education assistance, etc.).

    Nightfox
  • From Accession@46:1/100 to jack phlash on Wed Nov 8 15:58:32 2017
    Hello jack,

    On Wed Nov 08 2017 11:29:52, jack phlash wrote to Accession:

    Oh, I wasn't implying that you were bragging, not at all, just that
    your situation isn't typical for a lot of people and he was asking
    about averages. Mine isn't either. Like I said, I work for government
    and we actually have a full, old school retirement plan. A lot of
    people around here cash in overtime and sick days and retire extremely early, especially if they'd been here since they were young. One
    person I worked with retired in her early 50s, for instance. They even
    had a rule until real recently that whatever insurance you had when
    you retired you kept. Can you imagine having a 100% free 80/20 PPO as
    a senior citizen? :)

    Yikes, that would save you a lot of your pension. I'm pretty sure when we retire we have to get Cobra or some other insurance, because if you're not working you're not paying into your insurance. That's why a lot of retirees come back to the trade (usually for an office job like estimator/bidder or superintendant or something like that) and work just enough hours per quarter to keep their insurance going.

    Then you have Firefighters who get the 20 and out plan. That would be awesome to retire at like 40. LOL

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Nightfox on Wed Nov 8 16:02:10 2017
    Hello Nightfox,

    On Wed Nov 08 2017 12:40:26, Nightfox wrote to Accession:

    I think unions were good-intentioned when they started out, and it's
    too bad unions have the problems they do these days. I've heard of

    Some still do have good intentions. It was and still is mainly factory unions (GM or Chrystler are good examples) that have ruined it for the rest, and put a
    sour taste in people's mouths about unions in general.

    problems like corruption and union fees that are too high, and as
    you've said, if someone else does half the work but makes the same
    amount of money. For the last issue, I suppose sometimes it can be difficult to put a value on a type of work. One example I can think
    of is that athletes & sports players make a lot more money than
    teachers, which seems seems backwards to me. Not to say that athletes don't work hard, but I'd think teachers would be compensated
    better due to the type of work they do. Military work is similar -
    People who join the military do dangerous jobs and risk their lives,
    but I've heard the get very low pay (though I've heard they get other benefits too, such as good health insurance, education assistance,
    etc.).

    I know a couple military vets, and I have never heard anything good about their
    health insurance. Sure it's completely free with no copays or anything like that, but you have to go to the VA hospital for anything, which can be backed up for ages. You can only go to certain doctors covered under your VA bill or whatever. Also, I'm not sure how much you've actually looked into this, but it's been a huge issue as far as federal funding for VA hospitals and getting veterans the care they need for ages.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to Accession on Thu Nov 9 13:54:24 2017
    Quoting Accession to jack phlash <=-

    Then you have Firefighters who get the 20 and out plan. That would be awesome to retire at like 40. LOL

    One of my friends was a police officer and retired at 45. Only problem?
    The way he took his payout was in a lump sum, and byt he time he paid the
    tax on it he didn't have much left. Currently works 80+ hours a week to
    try to pay the bills.

    Shawn

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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to Accession on Thu Nov 9 12:43:15 2017
    on 11/08/17, Accession said...

    Then you have Firefighters who get the 20 and out plan. That would be awesome to retire at like 40. LOL

    That's gotta depend pretty heavily on the city, surely, right? Yeah, military retirement is similar, though unless you're an officer you're probably not pulling in a huge check.

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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Tiny on Thu Nov 9 17:31:00 2017
    Hello Tiny,

    On Thu Nov 09 2017 13:54:24, Tiny wrote to Accession:

    One of my friends was a police officer and retired at 45. Only
    problem? The way he took his payout was in a lump sum, and byt he time
    he paid the tax on it he didn't have much left. Currently works 80+
    hours a week to try to pay the bills.

    Yeah that's not good. If they don't give you enough to retire on, it's kinda pointless to pull the plug that early. I suppose that's why there's plenty of older people still serving as police officers and fire fighters.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to jack phlash on Thu Nov 9 17:32:16 2017
    Hello jack,

    On Thu Nov 09 2017 12:43:14, jack phlash wrote to Accession:

    Then you have Firefighters who get the 20 and out plan. That
    would be awesome to retire at like 40. LOL

    That's gotta depend pretty heavily on the city, surely, right? Yeah, military retirement is similar, though unless you're an officer you're probably not pulling in a huge check.

    I would assume so. Around here, I think the only actual "paid" firefighters are
    in the big cities. Otherwise it's all volunteer stuff for awhile as far as I remember. My brother did it for the town we grew up in, but since the pay was too little to live on, he ended up doing something else.

    Regards,
    Nick

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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to Accession on Fri Nov 10 15:28:50 2017
    Quoting Accession to Tiny <=-

    Yeah that's not good. If they don't give you enough to retire on, it's

    They give you enough /if/ he would have taken the pension ie a monthly
    payment. He would be living very well, he took a giant payout
    and got stuck with a HUGE lump sum income tax bill.

    My father has been retired (Police officer) for over 30 years now and
    get's his monthly payment and while they aren't rich, they can live and
    afford vacations, new cars every few years. etc. Basically living the
    dream of retirment IMO.

    kinda pointless to pull the plug that early. I suppose that's why
    there's plenty of older people still serving as police officers and
    fire fighters.

    Also lots of them going back to work as Security guards, as well... When
    you retire at 50, you get bored.

    Shawn

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@46:1/115 to Tiny on Fri Nov 10 07:23:52 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: Tiny to Accession on Mon Nov 06 2017 07:01 pm

    Ohhhh yeah. Well now I'm switching to gin because it's getting
    cold and I have a strange obsession with gin and club soda and
    martini's. (I know, gin is yucky etc etc)

    I've never heard of club soda in a martini! Give me a good dirty Gibson Martini (extra dry, splash of bitters, w/ onions) or Bobmay Sapphire on the rocks with a lime twist.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@46:1/115 to jack phlash on Fri Nov 10 07:25:36 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: jack phlash to Accession on Tue Nov 07 2017 05:02 pm

    Hey now, most people in this country can't be part of unions. A lot of time and money goes into keeping it that way too. I work for government nowadays, so it's a little more complicated for me too, but I was talking about national averages and Social Security and Medicare in particular.

    I just started a government gig and just finished my benefits orientation. It's a whole different world working for The Man.
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@46:1/115 to Tiny on Fri Nov 10 07:28:29 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: Tiny to Accession on Thu Nov 09 2017 01:54 pm

    One of my friends was a police officer and retired at 45. Only problem?
    The way he took his payout was in a lump sum, and byt he time he paid the tax on it he didn't have much left.

    There are few reasons to take the lump sum and get hit with tax on the full amount. I wonder what the rest of the story is?
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@46:1/115 to Accession on Fri Nov 10 07:30:21 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: Accession to Tiny on Thu Nov 09 2017 05:31 pm

    Yeah that's not good. If they don't give you enough to retire on, it's kinda pointless to pull the plug that early. I suppose that's why there's plenty of older people still serving as police officers and fire fighters.

    There's a local firefighter who retired early and got pulled back in doing outreach work -- he's taking in his pension and still getting paid to do property inspections, inspecting hydrants, and generally looking like he's enjoying the hell out of it.

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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to Tiny on Fri Nov 10 15:42:08 2017
    Hello Tiny,

    On Fri Nov 10 2017 15:28:50, Tiny wrote to Accession:

    They give you enough /if/ he would have taken the pension ie a
    monthly payment. He would be living very well, he took a giant payout
    and got stuck with a HUGE lump sum income tax bill.

    Ah I see. While I'd definitely take the lump sum if I won the lottery, I don't think I'd do the same with a retirement plan. Way too easy to burn through it before your lifetime is up. ;)

    My father has been retired (Police officer) for over 30 years now
    and get's his monthly payment and while they aren't rich, they can
    live and afford vacations, new cars every few years. etc. Basically living the dream of retirment IMO.

    True.

    kinda pointless to pull the plug that early. I suppose that's why
    there's plenty of older people still serving as police officers
    and fire fighters.

    Also lots of them going back to work as Security guards, as well...
    When you retire at 50, you get bored.

    Just as well, if you don't make enough money when you're retired you'd have to go back to work for the things you want. Some just go back for the health insurance, so they don't have to pay out of pocket and can actually enjoy their
    retirement money rather than spending it all on bills. lol

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 10 16:31:48 2017
    Hello poindexter,

    On Fri Nov 10 2017 07:23:52, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Tiny:

    I've never heard of club soda in a martini! Give me a good dirty
    Gibson Martini (extra dry, splash of bitters, w/ onions) or Bobmay Sapphire on the rocks with a lime twist.

    Wait, wut? Onions in your drink? Now I've heard it all (but I'll pass, lol)!

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20170303
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  • From Accession@46:1/100 to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Nov 10 16:33:06 2017
    Hello poindexter,

    On Fri Nov 10 2017 07:30:20, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Accession:

    There's a local firefighter who retired early and got pulled back in
    doing outreach work -- he's taking in his pension and still getting
    paid to do property inspections, inspecting hydrants, and generally looking like he's enjoying the hell out of it.

    Oh sure. Also, if you get elected to any kind of union office (Business Manager
    or Agent, President, VP, etc..) you get double pensions and whatever other perks there are - but lose the respect of most of the guys in the field. lol

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... "Не знаю. Я здесь только работаю."
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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Nov 11 16:14:44 2017
    Quoting poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny <=-

    I've never heard of club soda in a martini! Give me a good dirty

    My grammar sucks. that was Club Soda and Gin. OR a martini.
    I will try a Gibson here myself in the next couple of days, as I bought
    some cocktail onions for something else. ;)

    Normally I just make a dirty Martini (splash of olive brine). I still
    prefer good old BeefEater the cheapest swill there is. <G>

    Shawn

    ... Life is a hereditary disease.
    --- Blue Wave/386
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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Nov 11 16:17:16 2017
    Quoting poindexter FORTRAN to Tiny <=-

    There are few reasons to take the lump sum and get hit with tax on the full amount. I wonder what the rest of the story is?

    I don't want to ask. I can only make assumptions.

    Shawn

    ... Everyone has his day, and some days last longer than others.
    --- Blue Wave/386
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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to Accession on Sat Nov 11 16:18:04 2017
    Quoting Accession to Tiny <=-

    Ah I see. While I'd definitely take the lump sum if I won the lottery,
    I don't think I'd do the same with a retirement plan. Way too easy to
    burn through it before your lifetime is up. ;)

    Same here.

    Just as well, if you don't make enough money when you're retired you'd have to go back to work for the things you want. Some just go back for
    the health insurance, so they don't have to pay out of pocket and can actually enjoy their retirement money rather than spending it all on bills. lol

    We had a couple of weekend guys at the taxi company (Still have one)
    retired from GM with full pension, they drove cabs on the weekends just
    for pocket money. Then they could afford amazing vacations.

    Shawn

    ... It takes a long time to understand nothing.
    --- Blue Wave/386
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  • From h7@46:2/101 to ispyhumanfly on Tue Nov 7 07:38:40 2017
    I can understand that one. Once my career in software engineering took
    off fullsteam I rapidly took a step back from many things I used to
    enjoy. With exception to working on 16c, I was a ghost.

    yup. i even tried to quit some 15 yrs ago but couldnt manage. the bbs was something that likely kept me going. i liked the idea that my bbs was one of the few bbs's there even are these days.

    I'm gladly, though it has been slow moving, I've been able to re-center
    a few things in my life, allowing me some flexibility within my own head to indulge in the scene, among other missing aspects again.

    7.38am, i'm typing messages in the bbs while i should suit up and head to the bank :)

    |08.\ |15H7 |08blocktronics|07accession|08trsi|07haciend

    --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A35 (Linux/64)
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  • From jack phlash@46:1/145 to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Nov 13 15:35:20 2017
    on 11/10/17, poindexter FORTRAN said...

    I just started a government gig and just finished my benefits
    orientation. It's a whole different world working for The Man.

    It sure is, though even our benefits are (slowly) getting worse and worse. People here are appalled that our standard 70/30 PPO medical insurance plan is no longer free. ;) But yeah, when I first started I had almost a full ream paper worth of benefits related brochures and applications and whatnot.

    |08j |15A C K |08p |15H L A S H |08!

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  • From HusTler@46:1/700 to Tiny on Fri Nov 24 07:21:58 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: Tiny to Accession on Mon Nov 06 2017 07:01 pm

    Just keep the beer cold and you'll make it through. ;)

    Ohhhh yeah. Well now I'm switching to gin because it's getting
    cold and I have a strange obsession with gin and club soda and
    martini's. (I know, gin is yucky etc etc)

    Ooooof. Most Gin hanovers would kill and ordinary man. I'll stick with my Buddy Wizers.

    ... Men will always be men -- no matter where they are.
    --- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
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  • From Tiny@46:1/126.4 to HusTler on Fri Nov 24 20:01:26 2017
    Quoting HusTler to Tiny <=-

    Ooooof. Most Gin hanovers would kill and ordinary man. I'll stick with
    my Buddy Wizers.

    I see where you are going wrong! You /stop/ drinking, that's how you get
    a hangover.

    Shawn

    ... What ever you do, DON'T STEP IN IT!
    --- Blue Wave/386
    * Origin: A Tiny slice o pi (46:1/126.4)
  • From Nightfox to HusTler on Mon Nov 27 13:02:31 2017
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: HusTler to Tiny on Fri Nov 24 2017 07:21 am

    Ooooof. Most Gin hanovers would kill and ordinary man. I'll stick with my Buddy Wizers.

    Do you know how Budweiser got its name? There were 2 buddies who were trying to think of what to call their new beer, and the one who came up with the name was the bud who was wiser.

    Full disclosure: I'm not really sure that's true, but that's what I like to think anyway..

    Nightfox
  • From motorhead@46:1/700 to Nightfox on Fri Feb 28 09:04:49 2020
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: Nightfox to HusTler on Mon Nov 27 2017 01:02 pm

    Nice one :)
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  • From Nightfox to motorhead on Fri Feb 28 12:11:07 2020
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: motorhead to Nightfox on Fri Feb 28 2020 09:04 am

    Nice one :)

    What are you referring to? You didn't quote anything, so I don't know what you're referencing..?

    Nightfox
  • From motorhead@46:1/700 to Nightfox on Sat Feb 29 07:32:01 2020
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    By: Nightfox to motorhead on Fri Feb 28 2020 12:11 pm


    Nice one :)
    By: motorhead to Nightfox on Fri Feb 28 2020 09:04 am
    Re: how to find time to do all the things
    What are you referring to? You didn't quote anything, so I don't know what you're referencing..?

    Probably the first original post, I'm a first timer, so still fighting with different commands. Not really sure, something I've liked in this thread, I guess. :)
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